Cryonics

2011-08-28 Thread Jon Louis Mann
 Subject: WorldCon in Reno
 David Brin, Greg Bear and Gregory Benford
 were all on a panel at Renovation last week. 
 Amusing event.  I brought up cryonics.  Everyone
 in the audience was aware of it, several people 
 were thinking about it for themselves and of
 course Gregory and I were signed up. There were 
 around a dozen at the con who were already signed up.
 Keith Henson
 (Signed up since 1985 and helped freeze 19 people)

I've been thinking about it for years, but haven't seen 
anyone at cons lately to sign people up.  I'm curious why  
many of our deceased authors didn't sign up...

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Cryonics

2011-08-28 Thread Jon Louis Mann

 Subject: WorldCon in Reno
 David Brin, Greg Bear and Gregory Benford
 were all on a panel at Renovation last week. 
 Amusing event.  I brought up cryonics.  Everyone
 in the audience was aware of it, several people 
 were thinking about it for themselves and of
 course Gregory and I were signed up. There were 
 around a dozen at the con who were already signed up.
 Keith Henson
 (Signed up since 1985 and helped freeze 19 people)

Are you with Alcor?
I've been thinking about it for years, but haven't seen 
anyone at cons lately to sign people up.  I'm curious why  
many of our deceased authors didn't sign up...



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Cryonics

2011-08-28 Thread Jon Louis Mann
 Subject: WorldCon in Reno
 David Brin, Greg Bear and Gregory Benford
 were all on a panel at Renovation last week. 
 Amusing event.  I brought up cryonics.  Everyone
 in the audience was aware of it, several people 
 were thinking about it for themselves and of
 course Gregory and I were signed up. There were 
 around a dozen at the con who were already signed up.
 Keith Henson
 (Signed up since 1985 and helped freeze 19 people)

Keith, are you with Alcor?
I've been thinking about it for years, but haven't seen 
anyone at cons lately to sign people up.  I'm curious why  
so many deceased SF authors never signed up...
Jon Mann

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RE: Galileo was wrong!

2011-08-28 Thread Dan Minette
A few Catholics still insist Galileo was wrong - latimes.com

It was a ROTFLMAO piece for me. It was really fun to see how both Notre Dame
and the Vatican Observatory were in the are these guy real? mode. I gave
my first paper at a high energy physics symposium at Notre Dame, and saw the
head of the Vatican Observatory and Steven Weinberg give a presentation on
Science and Faith together.  

It's funny, when you think about it.  A Protestant can rail against every
other church and found his own church.  But if you're an ultraconservative
Catholic, how in the world do you argue that the Pope is dead wrong on the
important issues?  Liberal Catholics can be anti-traditional, but how can
you be an ubertraditonalist that says tradition is horribly wrong. :-)

Dan M.  



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Re: Galileo was wrong!

2011-08-28 Thread John Williams
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote:

 It's funny, when you think about it.  A Protestant can rail against every
 other church and found his own church.  But if you're an ultraconservative
 Catholic, how in the world do you argue that the Pope is dead wrong on the
 important issues?

It is pathetic when you think about it. Of course there will be
religious people who have trouble accepting reality as revealed by
science. The whole point of most religions is to accept things without
proof. Anyone who is suprised by religious people who have trouble
distinguishing reality from delusion is lying to themselves about the
consequences of indoctrinating people into religious beliefs.

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Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 30, Issue 6

2011-08-28 Thread Keith Henson
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM,  Jon Louis Mann
net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote:

(Keith  wrote)

 David Brin, Greg Bear and Gregory Benford
 were all on a panel at Renovation last week.
 Amusing event.  I brought up cryonics.  Everyone
 in the audience was aware of it, several people
 were thinking about it for themselves and of
 course Gregory and I were signed up. There were
 around a dozen at the con who were already signed up.
 Keith Henson
 (Signed up since 1985 and helped freeze 19 people)

 Keith, are you with Alcor?

Yes.

 I've been thinking about it for years, but haven't seen
 anyone at cons lately to sign people up.

If you are serious about it, at least get insurance (unless you can
afford it out of pocket, and even then, insurance is a good way to
assure the funding will be there).

 I'm curious why
 so many deceased SF authors never signed up...

They don't seem to be much more likely to sign up than the rest of the
population.

As for why, ask them, but expect rationalizations rather then reason.

Keith

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