Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
On 27 Aug 2011, at 02:46, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:57 AM Friday 8/26/2011, KZK wrote: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/human-activity-can-cause-earthquakes/ I really like the instructions given for those who want to leave comments. . . . ronn! :) Yeah. Seems to work, too. :) Wonder how many people are left on this list? Such an oldfashioned mode of communication and info-gathering… ;) Not that I'm keeping up with the new ways much… I try, life is just way too busy right now with 3 kids full time job setting up the Dutch B-Society to spend much time figuring out how the frack FB works or posting every thought I have on Twitter… Turned 40 recently... Could anybody tell? Ticia ',:) Ticia Luengo Hendriks Co-founder and Editor-in-chief of B-Society.nl B-Society: proposing an alternative to the 9-5 society, taking into account the needs of the 25% of us who are evening types (night owls). A Broader Better society, healthier and more productive. To Be or not to Be a morning, day or evening type. Which are you? We are part of an international movement originating in Denmark: www.b-society.org ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
- Original Message - From: Ticia ti...@xs4all.nl To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:35:37 AM Subject: Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes On 27 Aug 2011, at 02:46, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:57 AM Friday 8/26/2011, KZK wrote: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/human-activity-can-cause-earthquakes/ I really like the instructions given for those who want to leave comments. . . . ronn! :) Yeah. Seems to work, too. :) Wonder how many people are left on this list? Such an oldfashioned mode of communication and info-gathering… ;) Not that I'm keeping up with the new ways much… I try, life is just way too busy right now with 3 kids full time job setting up the Dutch B-Society to spend much time figuring out how the frack FB works or posting every thought I have on Twitter… -- Ticia-- Hi. It's good to hear from you. I think a lot of us still lurk, but it's hard to keep a conversation going. ---David ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)
I'm still here, of course. Recently joined NetBase as director of product management, so I'm busy getting up to speed. One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in forums, list servers, etc. Discussion tends to start in the new social media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is supported. I suppose if we really want to revive Brin-L, we need to have links to it appearing periodically in social media. Nick ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
Two problems with the Brin list. First, each message keeps coming up with the name of the individual sender as primary and warning me This may not be *trustworthy*! Do you want to mark it as safe? Each individual sender? Give me a break!!! , And I note that hitting Reply actually does send it back to the list. The Almacks list, out of the U.K., does the same thing. My Yahoo-groups lists don't. Second, the real discussion seems to be happening on his blog, in the comments. For what it's worth. I don't do social media, having [begin rant] been poked (hideous, intrusive act) too many times by people who call up a puzzled Do I know you and from where? without any way to check their profiles before (hideous word) friending them. Not to mention being bombarded with exhortations to play Farmville, and See how many people want to date you! (Yeah. Right.) And sales pitches, since every salescritter on the planet uses such media as their primary means of communication. [end rant]. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:52:48 -0400 From: hob...@newpaltz.edu To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes From: Ticia ti...@xs4all.nl To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:35:37 AM Subject: Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes On 27 Aug 2011, at 02:46, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:57 AM Friday 8/26/2011, KZK wrote: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/human-activity-can-cause-earthquakes/ I really like the instructions given for those who want to leave comments. . . . ronn! :) Yeah. Seems to work, too. :) Wonder how many people are left on this list? Such an oldfashioned mode of communication and info-gathering… ;) Not that I'm keeping up with the new ways much… I try, life is just way too busy right now with 3 kids full time job setting up the Dutch B-Society to spend much time figuring out how the frack FB works or posting every thought I have on Twitter… -- Ticia-- Hi. It's good to hear from you. I think a lot of us still lurk, but it's hard to keep a conversation going. ---David ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
Ticia wrote: B-Society: proposing an alternative to the 9-5 society, taking into account the needs of the 25% of us who are evening types (night owls). That sounds good! If there was a chapter in L.A., I would want to join! -- Matt___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
At 01:17 PM Sunday 9/18/2011, Matt Grimaldi wrote: Ticia wrote: B-Society: proposing an alternative to the 9-5 society, taking into account the needs of the 25% of us who are evening types (night owls). That sounds good! If there was a chapter in L.A., I would want to join! -- Matt They meet at Joe's sushi bar downtown starting at 8:00 AM. . . . ronn! :) Sunrise is Nature's way of telling you it's bedtime. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
Hi Pat, I hardly ever use Facebook for the sort of reasons you mention below. I think Google+ has dealt with those issues very nicely the conversations there are mostly very interesting stimulating. If you are interested to see what social media done well looks like you should give it a try. Click here if you would like an invite. https://plus.google.com/i/cFaHskHB458:OADMZ9Ox5uA and here if you want to have a look at David's public posts. https://plus.google.com/116665417191671711571/posts?hl=en Regards, Wayne On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Pat Mathews mathew...@msn.com wrote: For what it's worth. I don't do social media, having [begin rant] been poked (hideous, intrusive act) too many times by people who call up a puzzled Do I know you and from where? without any way to check their profiles before (hideous word) friending them. Not to mention being bombarded with exhortations to play Farmville, and See how many people want to date you! (Yeah. Right.) And sales pitches, since every salescritter on the planet uses such media as their primary means of communication. [end rant]. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ -- ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)
On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: I'm still here, of course. Recently joined NetBase as director of product management, so I'm busy getting up to speed. One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in forums, list servers, etc. Discussion tends to start in the new social media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is supported. I suppose if we really want to revive Brin-L, we need to have links to it appearing periodically in social media. I didn't know that, interesting… See? That's what Brin-L is still good for! For better or worse we are still a kind of social network, with a history and conections dating back to a previous online era… A brilliant source for information should we need it… It'll be interesting to see how all the social networking develops in the next few years… Ticia ',:) Ticia Luengo Hendriks Co-founder and Editor-in-chief of B-Society.nl B-Society: proposing an alternative to the 9-5 society, taking into account the needs of the 25% of us who are evening types (night owls). A Broader Better society, healthier and more productive. To Be or not to Be a morning, day or evening type. Which are you? We are part of an international movement originating in Denmark: www.b-society.org ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)
Nick wrote: One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in forums, list servers, etc. Discussion tends to start in the new social media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is supported. People who I have contact with on other mailing lists have reported that the vast majority of broad forums, like Brin-L or Culture, have lost a lot of traffic. On the whole, most folks I've discussed this with have found few outlets where long conversations occur. I think we've differed on this for more than a decade, Nick. :-) I still see the trend of the internet is to go more and more to closed circles of folks who all agree and short sound byte discussions. Ticia wrote: It'll be interesting to see how all the social networking develops in the next few years My prediction is that the replacement for Twitter will be a networking site where there is only room for emotocons. :-) Dan M. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
And why do I keep getting this? On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:02 PM, postmas...@cenit.de wrote: This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. a.freib...@cenit.de Reporting-MTA: dns;exf-de02.de.cenit-group.com Received-From-MTA: dns;mailgateway01.de.cenit-group.com Arrival-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:02:19 +0200 Final-Recipient: rfc822;a.freib...@cenit.de Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 From: Ticia ti...@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes) Date: September 18, 2011 11:02:04 PM GMT+02:00 To: Killer Bs \(David Brin et al\) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Reply-To: Killer Bs \(David Brin et al\) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: I'm still here, of course. Recently joined NetBase as director of product management, so I'm busy getting up to speed. One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in forums, list servers, etc. Discussion tends to start in the new social media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is supported. I suppose if we really want to revive Brin-L, we need to have links to it appearing periodically in social media. I didn't know that, interesting… See? That's what Brin-L is still good for! For better or worse we are still a kind of social network, with a history and conections dating back to a previous online era… A brilliant source for information should we need it… It'll be interesting to see how all the social networking develops in the next few years… Ticia ',:) Ticia Luengo Hendriks Co-founder and Editor-in-chief of B-Society.nl B-Society: proposing an alternative to the 9-5 society, taking into account the needs of the 25% of us who are evening types (night owls). A Broader Better society, healthier and more productive. To Be or not to Be a morning, day or evening type. Which are you? We are part of an international movement originating in Denmark: www.b-society.org ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Behalf Of Ticia And why do I keep getting this? We all do when we post. There's still a few bugs in the system. :-) Dan M. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
Is there anyone who knows why I and others (I presume the whole list?) receive this in response to EVERY message we sent to the list, and can do something about it? TIA! (Quoting it in its entirety with full headers in case that info is of help to anyone . . . ) At 01:50 PM Sunday 9/18/2011, postmas...@cenit.de wrote: X-Apparently-To: ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net via 67.195.15.74; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:50:22 -0700 Received-SPF: none (domain of fgateway09.isp.att.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-YMailISG: RzwF44oWLDu8LZBgzXsfOTA5LUtndaFOMzyYUK3vJhsZ3THi Xs2ICe3wr8v2Rb1eEvRHKhbirhpihiKzA3SxZ5r8sG.T7W2fB0z8N_vcUQLa bX9j8PKcUlzUiZCa_YPoAZeWZu3To9B6T23_oJJs.9j0.56BfJILojsBKBI2 pH2Q1wkGnmuVkhtZFg_as_f7QUTIsUsnmQQCHzxFrH5ARd_nZ._FJVDo85xK 5AWKZ4DlOTvNR9uz94k1EgjZFrcLYN4796s1UKBoujqt6XNI.gRth_CNVtFw s7SdPMkYq_8lBRJwbSZ1LZrn7DNPVvZxcojIipWuth5zsJaP1ipt2LnSRUN3 EgsjmyMeEd6HmKXWvNuuZXxlMHzSZ2F5FjO2JytKGw72QSVGPdQ1F.CjfDOt AV793n5CvHDlk6qmzeNthNTBbzkwboiE23GOlRt2O8KpZ6cFQHEtvZuJuBtt FjCcAvWYzONx1MWxtPEKwricOz7QwghdC2a2qAAkAAV5.g-- X-Originating-IP: [193.188.158.4] Authentication-Results: mta1030.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=cenit.de; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=cenit.de; dkim=neutral (no sig) Received: from 207.115.11.39 (EHLO fgateway09.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.39) by mta1030.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:50:20 -0700 Received: from cenit.de (ns2.cenit.de[193.188.158.4]) by isp.att.net (frfwmxc09) with ESMTP id 20110918185019M0900jhlfke; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:50:19 + X-Originating-IP: [193.188.158.4] Received: from mailgateway02.de.cenit-group.com ([10.0.2.156]) by ns2.cenit.de (cenit.de [192.168.232.3]) (MDaemon PRO v9.6.3) with ESMTP id md50003484517.msg for ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:45:55 +0200 Received: (from smtpd@127.0.0.1) by mailgateway02.de.cenit-group.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) id p8IIo9BI023663 for ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:09 +0200 From: postmas...@cenit.de To: ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DSNContext: 335a7efd - 4523 - 0001 - 80040546 Message-ID: vralp2inz1...@exf-de02.de.cenit-group.com Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary=9B095B5ADSN=_01CC68D12B729BBE1B70exf?de02.de.ceni VBR-Info: md=cenit.de; mc=all; mv=vbr.emailcertification.org; X-Spam-Processed: cenit.de, Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:45:55 +0200 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.2.156 X-Return-Path: X-Envelope-From: X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net X-MDAV-Processed: cenit.de, Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:45:57 +0200 This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. a.freib...@cenit.de Reporting-MTA: dns;exf-de02.de.cenit-group.com Received-From-MTA: dns;mailgateway01.de.cenit-group.com Arrival-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:09 +0200 Final-Recipient: rfc822;a.freib...@cenit.de Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Received: from mailgateway01.de.cenit-group.com ([10.0.2.155]) by exf-de02.de.cenit-group.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:09 +0200 Received: (from smtpd@127.0.0.1) by mailgateway01.de.cenit-group.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) id p8IIo8e0008854 for a.freib...@cenit.de; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:08 +0200 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,REPTO_QUOTE_QUALCOMM autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Report: * -4.7 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.] * 0.0 REPTO_QUOTE_QUALCOMM Qualcomm/Eudora doesn't do quoting like this Authentication-Results: cenit.de spf=pass smtp.mail=brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com; sender-id=pass header.sender=brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com; dkim=neutral header.d=bellsouth.net (1:-4:DKIM_SIGNATURE_BAD_BUT_TESTING); Received-SPF: pass (cenit.de: domain of brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com designates 67.222.54.6 as permitted sender) x-spf-client=MDaemon.PRO.v9.6.3 receiver=cenit.de client-ip=67.222.54.6 envelope-from=brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com helo=oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 353868.49966...@omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1316371793; bh=ArJuP1kl+YBn7HvI4uhdp18H4NmMwveC+c01OCYL1Zg=; h=Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type;
Re: ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
At 04:48 PM Sunday 9/18/2011, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Is there anyone who knows why I and others (I presume the whole list?) receive this in response to EVERY message we sent to the list, and can do something about it? I see Ticia also wondered the same pretty thing at much the same moment, and was nice enough to not try to be as helpful as I was . . . :( And apparently Dan answered my question in the negative . . . :(:( Oh, well . . . . . . ronn! :) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
At 04:32 PM Sunday 9/18/2011, Ticia wrote: And why do I keep getting this? On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:02 PM, postmas...@cenit.de wrote: This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. a.freib...@cenit.de Without the extra e it reminds me of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Friberg (And here comes yet another automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.) . . . ronn! :) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)
Yup. More seriously, why don't we set up circles on google plus? Then we'd still have that interaction via means like this one, with about the same openness, and the ability to choose correspondents ourselves? That is, if each of us were to create a 'brin' circle in g+, and add each other to our own circles, in that way the conversation would still be live - and if someone got too obstreperous for a given person to tolerate, he'd be able to remove that person from his own 'brin' circle, without affecting anyone else. Strikes me as being pretty grassroots fair and flexible, anyway. • Warren • off console • w azkrmc.com • h nightwares.com • On Sep 18, 2011, at 14:07, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote: I still see the trend of the internet is to go more and more to closed circles of folks who all agree and short sound byte discussions. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
Ugh - I didn't realize everybody was getting this. Shouldn't happen. I'll figure it out and stop it. Nick On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Ronn! Blankenship ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote: Is there anyone who knows why I and others (I presume the whole list?) receive this in response to EVERY message we sent to the list, and can do something about it? TIA! (Quoting it in its entirety with full headers in case that info is of help to anyone . . . ) At 01:50 PM Sunday 9/18/2011, postmas...@cenit.de wrote: X-Apparently-To: ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net via 67.195.15.74; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:50:22 -0700 Received-SPF: none (domain of fgateway09.isp.att.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-YMailISG: RzwF44oWLDu8LZBgzXsfOTA5LUtnda**FOMzyYUK3vJhsZ3THi Xs2ICe3wr8v2Rb1eEvRHKhbirhpihi**KzA3SxZ5r8sG.T7W2fB0z8N_vcUQLa bX9j8PKcUlzUiZCa_**YPoAZeWZu3To9B6T23_oJJs.9j0.**56BfJILojsBKBI2 pH2Q1wkGnmuVkhtZFg_as_**f7QUTIsUsnmQQCHzxFrH5ARd_nZ._**FJVDo85xK 5AWKZ4DlOTvNR9uz94k1EgjZFrcLYN**4796s1UKBoujqt6XNI.gRth_CNVtFw s7SdPMkYq_**8lBRJwbSZ1LZrn7DNPVvZxcojIipWu**th5zsJaP1ipt2LnSRUN3 EgsjmyMeEd6HmKXWvNuuZXxlMHzSZ2**F5FjO2JytKGw72QSVGPdQ1F.CjfDOt AV793n5CvHDlk6qmzeNthNTBbzkwbo**iE23GOlRt2O8KpZ6cFQHEtvZuJuBtt FjCcAvWYzONx1MWxtPEKwricOz7Qwg**hdC2a2qAAkAAV5.g-- X-Originating-IP: [193.188.158.4] Authentication-Results: mta1030.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=cenit.de; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=cenit.de; dkim=neutral (no sig) Received: from 207.115.11.39 (EHLO fgateway09.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.39) by mta1030.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:50:20 -0700 Received: from cenit.de (ns2.cenit.de[193.188.158.4]) by isp.att.net (frfwmxc09) with ESMTP id 20110918185019M0900jhlfke; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:50:19 + X-Originating-IP: [193.188.158.4] Received: from mailgateway02.de.cenit-group.**comhttp://mailgateway02.de.cenit-group.com([10.0.2.156]) by ns2.cenit.de (cenit.de [192.168.232.3]) (MDaemon PRO v9.6.3) with ESMTP id md50003484517.msg for ronn_blankenship@bellsouth.**netronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:45:55 +0200 Received: (from smtpd@127.0.0.1) by mailgateway02.de.cenit-group.**comhttp://mailgateway02.de.cenit-group.com(8.13.8/8.13.8) id p8IIo9BI023663 for ronn_blankenship@bellsouth.**netronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:09 +0200 From: postmas...@cenit.de To: ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DSNContext: 335a7efd - 4523 - 0001 - 80040546 Message-ID: VralP2InZ1a4a@exf-de02.**de.cenit-group.comvralp2inz1...@exf-de02.de.cenit-group.com Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary=9B095B5ADSN=_**01CC68D12B729BBE1B70exf?** de02.de.ceni VBR-Info: md=cenit.de; mc=all; mv=vbr.emailcertification.org; X-Spam-Processed: cenit.de, Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:45:55 +0200 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.2.156 X-Return-Path: X-Envelope-From: X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net X-MDAV-Processed: cenit.de, Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:45:57 +0200 This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. a.freib...@cenit.de Reporting-MTA: dns;exf-de02.de.cenit-group.**comhttp://exf-de02.de.cenit-group.com Received-From-MTA: dns;mailgateway01.de.cenit-**group.comhttp://mailgateway01.de.cenit-group.com Arrival-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:09 +0200 Final-Recipient: rfc822;a.freib...@cenit.de Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Received: from mailgateway01.de.cenit-group.**comhttp://mailgateway01.de.cenit-group.com([10.0.2.155]) by exf-de02.de.cenit-group.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:09 +0200 Received: (from smtpd@127.0.0.1) by mailgateway01.de.cenit-group.**comhttp://mailgateway01.de.cenit-group.com(8.13.8/8.13.8) id p8IIo8e0008854 for a.freib...@cenit.de; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:50:08 +0200 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,REPTO_QUOTE_** QUALCOMM autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Report: * -4.7 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.] * 0.0 REPTO_QUOTE_QUALCOMM Qualcomm/Eudora doesn't do quoting like this Authentication-Results: cenit.de spf=pass smtp.mail=brin-l-bounces@**mccmedia.combrin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com ; sender-id=pass header.sender=brin-l-bounces@**mccmedia.combrin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com ; dkim=neutral header.d=bellsouth.net (1:-4:DKIM_SIGNATURE_BAD_BUT_* *TESTING); Received-SPF: pass (cenit.de: domain of brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com designates 67.222.54.6 as permitted
Re: ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
At 06:37 PM Sunday 9/18/2011, Nick Arnett wrote: Ugh - I didn't realize everybody was getting this. Yep. I get it every time I send a message to the list, and it sounds like everybody else does, too . . . Shouldn't happen. I'll figure it out and stop it. Thanks! . . . ronn! :) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
Well, I got it, and since I didn't see my Reply message to the list pop up, I figured there was smeting wrong and it wouldn;t take my reply. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:00:42 -0500 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com From: ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights! At 06:37 PM Sunday 9/18/2011, Nick Arnett wrote: Ugh - I didn't realize everybody was getting this. Yep. I get it every time I send a message to the list, and it sounds like everybody else does, too . . . Shouldn't happen. I'll figure it out and stop it. Thanks! . . . ronn! :) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
I DON'T get such messages when sending on the list. -- Matt___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Electronic interface options
I signed up for Facebook some time ago after receiving the invite from David for the sort of reasons you mention below. I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the other options to network electronically. I looked into Twitter, Google+ and a bunch of other links but got FB seems to be winning the with all the various games, etc. It is mostly superficial and geared toward revenue for that guy who figured out how to become an instant billionaire, but so what? I take the best and disregard the rest and just participate in the very interesting and stimulating discussion, especially on David's page. I was put off by a couple trolls who used hit an run tactics, but since they blocked me I no longer see their posts. At first I didn't know how to do social media, but am learning how to ignore and block the invites to play Farmville, and sales pitches, etc. Different strokes for different folks and FB is certainly a diverse community. If I get a poke, it's from a friend, and I poke back; I never initiate a poke!~) I even friended Nick on FB (and other networks). He is everywhere and even was friends with Mark Zuckerberg. I thoroughly enjoy the conversation in forums, list servers, etc. I don't know if here is a way to revive Brin-L with links to social media. we seem to have lost David to that interface somewhat, but he is a futurist and predicted all this! Brin-L was in the vanguard of all this, but the WWW, Broadband, You Tube, E-Bay, etc. are the wave of the future; for or better or worse... The world has changed radically and revolutions are in motion around the word; who knows what will be next, but I listen to David and other authors to keep up... Yes we are still a kind of social network, with a history and connections dating back to a previous online era? A brilliant source for information should we need it? It'll be interesting to see how all the social networking develops in the next few years? Jon Mann ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Electronic interface options
My problem is that I have quite a bit of trouble recognizing people in a different context. So if Kat wants to poke me, is this catmountain in Tijeras? Kat Roberts from the SCA? Or Kit Kat from the Porn Page? http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:11:01 -0700 From: net_democr...@yahoo.com Subject: Electronic interface options To: brin-l@mccmedia.com I signed up for Facebook some time ago after receiving the invite from David for the sort of reasons you mention below. I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the other options to network electronically. I looked into Twitter, Google+ and a bunch of other links but got FB seems to be winning the with all the various games, etc. It is mostly superficial and geared toward revenue for that guy who figured out how to become an instant billionaire, but so what? I take the best and disregard the rest and just participate in the very interesting and stimulating discussion, especially on David's page. I was put off by a couple trolls who used hit an run tactics, but since they blocked me I no longer see their posts. At first I didn't know how to do social media, but am learning how to ignore and block the invites to play Farmville, and sales pitches, etc. Different strokes for different folks and FB is certainly a diverse community. If I get a poke, it's from a friend, and I poke back; I never initiate a poke!~) I even friended Nick on FB (and other networks). He is everywhere and even was friends with Mark Zuckerberg. I thoroughly enjoy the conversation in forums, list servers, etc. I don't know if here is a way to revive Brin-L with links to social media. we seem to have lost David to that interface somewhat, but he is a futurist and predicted all this! Brin-L was in the vanguard of all this, but the WWW, Broadband, You Tube, E-Bay, etc. are the wave of the future; for or better or worse... The world has changed radically and revolutions are in motion around the word; who knows what will be next, but I listen to David and other authors to keep up... Yes we are still a kind of social network, with a history and connections dating back to a previous online era? A brilliant source for information should we need it? It'll be interesting to see how all the social networking develops in the next few years? Jon Mann ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Electronic interface options
At 08:00 PM Sunday 9/18/2011, Pat Mathews wrote: My problem is that I have quite a bit of trouble recognizing people in a different context. So if Kat wants to poke me, is this catmountain in Tijeras? Kat Roberts from the SCA? Or Kit Kat from the Porn Page? The on-line version of the problem faced in the sci-fi community in Utah in the eighties*: we had at least seven folks named Dave (including Wolverton/Farland), and in any given formal or informal gathering there were usually at least two or three if not more, so things could get confusing when anyone called out for Dave . . . _ *Several of them afaik are still in the area, though I know some have moved elsewhere. . . . ronn! :) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Status Notification
Nick -- I don't get it, and I'm on the digest... Hi Ticia waves THREE kids, you and Julia are now the mothers of the list. Is Julia still here?? Jo Anne Crone of the List ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Status Notification
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Jo Anne evens...@hevanet.com wrote: Nick -- I don't get it, and I'm on the digest... Ah, it probably only goes to those who post... did you get one after you wrote this message? Nick ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
Me neither. Hi Ticia, good to hear from you. Doug On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Matt Grimaldi matzeb...@yahoo.com wrote: I DON'T get such messages when sending on the list. -- Matt ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!
Okay, I removed the problem address... shouldn't happen any more. Nick ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
