Re: Nasty cuts Re: Book Binding
Julia Thompson wrote: snipped horor stories of 'cutting edge' accidents Well I'm the type of gall that don't do big accidents, but that instead does them all the time. It got so bad at one point that my hubby wouldn't allow me anywhere near something sharp. I suspect it was something to do with loss of concentration. Now a days I'm doing rather well, only need one bandaid per three kitchen sessions ;o). But I did manage to get myself cut badly on the roses when I planted them yesterday. tongue in cheek Ungratefull good for nothing mutter mumble. I just hope for them they'll be flowering exuberantly this year or else. /tongue in cheek ;o) Sonja GCU: Not yet a briljant gardener but getting better at using sharp kitchen utensils ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Book Binding
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Note that we have learned by sad experience that when using one of those neat cutting machines it is necessary to make absolutely sure that when the blade is in the raised position that it is completely up and locked before adjusting the paper to be cut with your very vulnerable fingers . . . Ouch. You really did that? Oh how that must have hurt. I usually stick to accidents with the smaller kitchen knifes. Those at least can be selfmedicated. All the rest I'm too scared of to not be extremely carefull with. Sonja GCU: I know where the band-aid is. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Book Binding
At 03:49 AM 3/22/04, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Note that we have learned by sad experience that when using one of those neat cutting machines it is necessary to make absolutely sure that when the blade is in the raised position that it is completely up and locked before adjusting the paper to be cut with your very vulnerable fingers . . . Ouch. You really did that? Oh how that must have hurt. I usually stick to accidents with the smaller kitchen knifes. Those at least can be selfmedicated. All the rest I'm too scared of to not be extremely carefull with. Sonja GCU: I know where the band-aid is. Yes, I did that. Note that I am not talking about the type of paper cutter which has a long blade at one side which is hinged at the back and has a handle at the front so you can pull it down to cut the paper at the edge of the board, but the type in which you clamp the paper and then the lever applies some mechanical advantage to press down a heavy straight blade with enough force to cut through at least a couple of hundred sheets of ordinary-weight paper. The problem was that the cutter was set close enough to a wall that it was easy to not get the lever all the way back to the locked position when it was raised, and it slipped and fell under its own weight while I was trying to line up the paper (some multi-colored Post-It™ pads I was cutting into strips to use as page marker flags) for the next cut. The blade was so sharp that the cut was so clean that it didn't bleed at first, meaning that no one else knew I had cut my thumb until I came back from the bathroom with some paper towels wrapped around it and told them. I lost a piece off one side of that thumb and nail about the size of a small pea, but it healed and grew back just fine, although it was a bit uncomfortable and awkward to use for a few weeks. FWIW, it was at about this time of year: I was using the paper cutter in the copy center at school, and it was the week before spring break, 2 or 3 years ago. -- Ronn! :) Ronn Blankenship Instructor of Astronomy/Planetary Science University of Montevallo Montevallo, AL Disclaimer: Unless specifically stated otherwise, any opinions contained herein are the personal opinions of the author and do not represent the official position of the University of Montevallo. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Nasty cuts Re: Book Binding
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Note that we have learned by sad experience that when using one of those neat cutting machines it is necessary to make absolutely sure that when the blade is in the raised position that it is completely up and locked before adjusting the paper to be cut with your very vulnerable fingers . . . Ouch. You really did that? Oh how that must have hurt. I usually stick to accidents with the smaller kitchen knifes. Those at least can be selfmedicated. All the rest I'm too scared of to not be extremely carefull with. Sonja GCU: I know where the band-aid is. Kitchen accidents? My worst was while cleaning a drain stopper/strainer by hand. A metal one. I cut the middle finger of my left hand (I described it as my 'cde' finger when notifying people by e-mail), went to the doctor, got a tetanus booster and a steri-strip on it (needed something to hold it closed, but a stitch would have been overkill). I remember at some point either I or my mother bought a box of Band-Aids labelled Kitchen Assortment. It had 10 each of the standard Band-Aid, the specially shaped ones for fingertips, and the specially shaped ones for knuckles. After less than a year, I think, they stopped selling anything labelled Kitchen Assortment. Now you can get a box of 10 each of just the fingertip and knuckle ones. I have way too many fingertip ones knocking around, we mostly do nasty things to our knuckles. And Dan is paranoid about use of his paper cutter. It stays locked and in the box unless there's a reason to pull it out for use, it's used very, very carefully and then put back immediately. And it has a sort of guard so you'd have to really work at it to chop off a bit of the finger holding the paper down. (And I *just* read Ronn!'s description of the paper cutter he was dealing with, and it sounds *very* nasty.) Oh, and I took a quilting class once from a woman who sliced two fingers off once with a rotary cutter when she was trying to just cut cloth. (They reattached fine.) I don't plan to buy a rotary cutter as a result of hearing that story. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Nasty cuts Re: Book Binding
At 10:23 AM 3/22/04, Julia Thompson wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Note that we have learned by sad experience that when using one of those neat cutting machines it is necessary to make absolutely sure that when the blade is in the raised position that it is completely up and locked before adjusting the paper to be cut with your very vulnerable fingers . . . Ouch. You really did that? Oh how that must have hurt. I usually stick to accidents with the smaller kitchen knifes. Those at least can be selfmedicated. All the rest I'm too scared of to not be extremely carefull with. Sonja GCU: I know where the band-aid is. Kitchen accidents? My worst was while cleaning a drain stopper/strainer by hand. A metal one. I cut the middle finger of my left hand (I described it as my 'cde' finger when notifying people by e-mail), went to the doctor, got a tetanus booster and a steri-strip on it (needed something to hold it closed, but a stitch would have been overkill). I remember at some point either I or my mother bought a box of Band-Aids labelled Kitchen Assortment. It had 10 each of the standard Band-Aid, the specially shaped ones for fingertips, and the specially shaped ones for knuckles. After less than a year, I think, they stopped selling anything labelled Kitchen Assortment. Now you can get a box of 10 each of just the fingertip and knuckle ones. I have way too many fingertip ones knocking around, we mostly do nasty things to our knuckles. And Dan is paranoid about use of his paper cutter. It stays locked and in the box unless there's a reason to pull it out for use, it's used very, very carefully and then put back immediately. And it has a sort of guard so you'd have to really work at it to chop off a bit of the finger holding the paper down. (And I *just* read Ronn!'s description of the paper cutter he was dealing with, and it sounds *very* nasty.) It is the type you find in book-binding operations, which is why I brought it up in this discussion. Though FWIW it was one of the smaller ones of that type I have seen, in the sense that it couldn't have handled sheets much larger than ordinary-size 8.5x11-inch paper, and they make them that are large enough to cut larger sheets, e.g. in the print department of one computer company I worked at which published their own manuals in-house the old-fashioned way, before desktop publishing could produce a product indistinguishable from a fancy typeset version . . . Oh, and I took a quilting class once from a woman who sliced two fingers off once with a rotary cutter when she was trying to just cut cloth. (They reattached fine.) I don't plan to buy a rotary cutter as a result of hearing that story. :) The paper cutter I have at home has a rotary cutter, FWIW. (I don't often need to cut a couple of hundred sheets at a time.) So far I have never cut anything with it but the paper I was trying to cut at the time . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Nasty cuts Re: Book Binding
Julia Thompson wrote: Kitchen accidents? My worst was while cleaning a drain stopper/strainer by hand. A metal one. I cut the middle finger of my left hand (I described it as my 'cde' finger when notifying people by e-mail), went to the doctor, got a tetanus booster and a steri-strip on it (needed something to hold it closed, but a stitch would have been overkill). I once got my hand squashed in an industrial dough mixer. No severe damage other than a sprained wrist, though that wrist has been a little thicker and less tolerant of pressure ever since. -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Book Binding
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/20/2004 10:04:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vinal glue. By Vinyl glue do you mean PVA, aka Elmer's white glue? Thanks for the response! Milk based white glue cracks. It has to say vinal in the title. Isn't there something like a binding cover with some binding gluey thingy stuff in the spine. A ready made bindingcover with solidified adhesive (Used for the first copy of a thesis or information booklets and such) . You heat the spine up in a special machine when you've put your pages neatly into the binding. Then you let it cool. It isn't very pretty but it usually works very nicely to quickly save a book from total destintegration. The added bonus is that you get a new cover on your book as well and you can glue the old one back on top of it. Copy shop should have them and they are in numerous binding widths/colors/sorts of material. Usually A4 but you can trim down the edges to a perfect fit using one of those neat cuttingmachines also available in copy shops. Sonja GCU: Cheapest workable solution. xGCU: Not for perfect restorations but makes for good useabillity and only takes a bit of time. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Book Binding
At 12:34 PM 3/21/04, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/20/2004 10:04:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vinal glue. By Vinyl glue do you mean PVA, aka Elmer's white glue? Thanks for the response! Milk based white glue cracks. It has to say vinal in the title. Isn't there something like a binding cover with some binding gluey thingy stuff in the spine. A ready made bindingcover with solidified adhesive (Used for the first copy of a thesis or information booklets and such) . You heat the spine up in a special machine when you've put your pages neatly into the binding. Then you let it cool. It isn't very pretty but it usually works very nicely to quickly save a book from total destintegration. The added bonus is that you get a new cover on your book as well and you can glue the old one back on top of it. Copy shop should have them and they are in numerous binding widths/colors/sorts of material. Usually A4 but you can trim down the edges to a perfect fit using one of those neat cuttingmachines also available in copy shops. Note that we have learned by sad experience that when using one of those neat cutting machines it is necessary to make absolutely sure that when the blade is in the raised position that it is completely up and locked before adjusting the paper to be cut with your very vulnerable fingers . . . Sonja GCU: Cheapest workable solution. xGCU: Not for perfect restorations but makes for good useabillity and only takes a bit of time. Harder To Find Replacement Fingertips Than Book Covers Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Book Binding
I just recently bought an oversixed softback book that the binding has failed on. I could just take it back and order a new copy, but then I'd have to wait for it... Anyone have experience preserving the binding on these kinds of books, or repairing them when they fail like this? What kinds of materials should I use? I have other (irreplacable) books where this is happening as well, so the technique has added importance... Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Book Binding
In a message dated 3/20/2004 8:04:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just recently bought an oversixed softback book that the binding has failed on. I could just take it back and order a new copy, but then I'd have to wait for it... Anyone have experience preserving the binding on these kinds of books, or repairing them when they fail like this? What kinds of materials should I use? I have other (irreplacable) books where this is happening as well, so the technique has added importance... Damon. = Vinal glue. There's an expensive source specifically designed for books available through Brodart--the people that make all those dustjacket covers. And I don't know if there's that much difference from the vinal glue available at a general hobby/craft store. It's an easy repair if you mean that the cover has seperated from the pages, but that there are no loose pages. For loose pages, you may want to spread the glue out on scrap cardboard, and then dip the edge of the page onto the glue. Sometimes for a cracked spine you want to reverse the process and use the edge of a scrap piece of construction paper to get the glue to the spine without having it spread to the pages. William Taylor G. F. Armoury Books ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Book Binding
Vinal glue. By Vinyl glue do you mean PVA, aka Elmer's white glue? Thanks for the response! Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Book Binding
In a message dated 3/20/2004 10:04:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vinal glue. By Vinyl glue do you mean PVA, aka Elmer's white glue? Thanks for the response! Milk based white glue cracks. It has to say vinal in the title. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
