Brin: Life after people - The Invaders
A great episode!!! Tool-using dolphins, self-uplifing chimpanzees, dolphins that remember humans as Gods in the Golden Age. What's next? Whales, Gorillas or AIs? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
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Thanks. Lots of fun. Thrive on! With best wishes, for a confident and ambitious 21st Century, David Brin www.davidbrin.com From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.br To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:10:12 PM Subject: Brin: Life after people - The Invaders A great episode!!! Tool-using dolphins, self-uplifing chimpanzees, dolphins that remember humans as Gods in the Golden Age. What's next? Whales, Gorillas or AIs? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
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Dave said More likely that the mortgagee foreclosed on us. Anyway, that seems to be something like how the story ends in various religions. Who is the mortgagee, and who the mortgage holder? To answer the question about the story or about gods or about mortgagee who is the mortgagee? Now that is a question about Gods and Dogs The same word you see because we come from beyond the sun After our planet blew up in this same galaxy beyond the dog star And rode the debris like it was a space ship to earth and found these Cave dwellers Knee Ander Thralls if you will Ice me doing they thang As we dance and sing and built the great Helios pads mapping stars Trying to get home and mocking our pass and travels to this terror Affirma and so it is and so it shall be we are the extra terror arresta We built the great Peril Amid the unicorn Ah Hiss that dance like Snakes in the cutie and map the mirrors of the sky and invented The greater calendars of the MY Ions and eons and so we are the creators Of worlds before this world and we rose from our rocks and come To the new beginning where the light travel with the lesser speed than me And they come to envy us and wish to belong to us and become our Domesticates so they mortgage they souls for the gold and silver stuff Which were the remnants of our world and this is how it was to be We confounded they tongues and created another language for them And enslaved them to our epic oracles and so it was and so it is That they stole our ideas as we evolved from their dead planet To compete with their virus and our germ the sperm made The journey from the hot rocks now cold and in their water We found our first home and paid our first mortgages and so It was and yet shall it be that one come out to evolve from gods to men Morris J. Peavey, Jr. From Ghettonomics to the Kinky Nashun where treat stories are told http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Ghettonomics/Morris-J-Peavey/e/9781410721006 This is a part of the story of the answer to the story about extraterrestrials But the plot thickens as we move from a world of slaves [and indentures] To the present day wage slaves where we must assume the cost to bear Our own huddles built by the great white god fathers founding our Domesticates dumdomes and marking the paths with their names And polluting our sanctuaries with places to hide somewhere in cavern Or should I say oracles of Diana or OH Dell Fire hell fire realities We got da sum for the ole hum bugs and lady bugs and scarabs also Well if you are real travelers meet me half way and see the trick ah trick Let me show you a mortgagee and I tell you another story about A homeless veteran and homeless morgagee There are a million stories in this world about Lying and taking or property that goes back To when slaves all lived in bunkhouses like American soldiers and never owned what we Got nerves to think we are losing and the world Is bam bam bozzled again and again run amuck From Ah Kinky Nashun where life is lived to http://mahsstoryy.wordpress.com/category/religion/ The great stories have already been told by the science And fiction bluffs! Read and comment! -- Original message from Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/27/2008 1:39:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We might even have become gods and simply moved away! Only if we've paid off the mortgage. Hmm. story idea there somewhere. More likely that the mortgagee foreclosed on us. Anyway, that seems to be something like how the story ends in various religions. Who is the mortgagee, and who the mortgage holder? Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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See, (Top-posting. So sue me.) This is why, after all the fussin' and a-feudin', we stay on this list: to read a post like this one. Thanks, James! Dave On Nov 29, 2008, at 6:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave said More likely that the mortgagee foreclosed on us. Anyway, that seems to be something like how the story ends in various religions. Who is the mortgagee, and who the mortgage holder? To answer the question about the story or about gods or about mortgagee who is the mortgagee? Now that is a question about Gods and Dogs The same word you see because we come from beyond the sun After our planet blew up in this same galaxy beyond the dog star And rode the debris like it was a space ship to earth and found these Cave dwellers Knee Ander Thralls if you will Ice me doing they thang As we dance and sing and built the great Helios pads mapping stars Trying to get home and mocking our pass and travels to this terror Affirma and so it is and so it shall be we are the extra terror arresta We built the great Peril Amid the unicorn Ah Hiss that dance like Snakes in the cutie and map the mirrors of the sky and invented The greater calendars of the MY Ions and eons and so we are the creators Of worlds before this world and we rose from our rocks and come To the new beginning where the light travel with the lesser speed than me And they come to envy us and wish to belong to us and become our Domesticates so they mortgage they souls for the gold and silver stuff Which were the remnants of our world and this is how it was to be We confounded they tongues and created another language for them And enslaved them to our epic oracles and so it was and so it is That they stole our ideas as we evolved from their dead planet To compete with their virus and our germ the sperm made The journey from the hot rocks now cold and in their water We found our first home and paid our first mortgages and so It was and yet shall it be that one come out to evolve from gods to men Morris J. Peavey, Jr. From Ghettonomics to the Kinky Nashun where treat stories are told http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Ghettonomics/Morris-J-Peavey/e/9781410721006 This is a part of the story of the answer to the story about extraterrestrials But the plot thickens as we move from a world of slaves [and indentures] To the present day wage slaves where we must assume the cost to bear Our own huddles built by the great white god fathers founding our Domesticates dumdomes and marking the paths with their names And polluting our sanctuaries with places to hide somewhere in cavern Or should I say oracles of Diana or OH Dell Fire hell fire realities We got da sum for the ole hum bugs and lady bugs and scarabs also Well if you are real travelers meet me half way and see the trick ah trick Let me show you a mortgagee and I tell you another story about A homeless veteran and homeless morgagee There are a million stories in this world about Lying and taking or property that goes back To when slaves all lived in bunkhouses like American soldiers and never owned what we Got nerves to think we are losing and the world Is bam bam bozzled again and again run amuck From Ah Kinky Nashun where life is lived to http://mahsstoryy.wordpress.com/category/religion/ The great stories have already been told by the science And fiction bluffs! Read and comment! -- Original message from Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/27/2008 1:39:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We might even have become gods and simply moved away! Only if we've paid off the mortgage. Hmm. story idea there somewhere. More likely that the mortgagee foreclosed on us. Anyway, that seems to be something like how the story ends in various religions. Who is the mortgagee, and who the mortgage holder? Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/27/2008 1:39:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We might even have become gods and simply moved away! Only if we've paid off the mortgage. Hmm. story idea there somewhere. More likely that the mortgagee foreclosed on us. Anyway, that seems to be something like how the story ends in various religions. Who is the mortgagee, and who the mortgage holder? Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 11/28/2008 4:37:48 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/27/2008 1:39:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We might even have become gods and simply moved away! Only if we've paid off the mortgage. Hmm. story idea there somewhere. More likely that the mortgagee foreclosed on us. Anyway, that seems to be something like how the story ends in various religions. Who is the mortgagee, and who the mortgage holder? Dave In Uplift, The Progenitors and our long lost Patrons. (Beware of Rothen with carpetbags and long thin mustaches.) I'm now going to go hide in the belly of a whale fighting a giant squid. Vilyehm **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Wayne Eddy, and gang, Yeah, Life After People was a fun show, though I had no actual control over it. In fact, I think the time scales are 10-100x too short. It was tasty that they left it vague WHY we were gone. We might even have become gods and simply moved away! Anyway, it got huge ratings so there'll be a spinoff series! db From: Wayne Eddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:41:24 AM Subject: Brin: Life after People Life after people screened here in Australia last night. It was interesting to watch after reading all the comments on the list a while back. The narration seems to have been redubbed - I think to try and give it more of an Australian flavour, so perhaps it has been totally re-edited. From memory there were about five interview snippets with our patron, including the very first one. At one point the narrator said something along the lines of it is inevitable that one day that mankind will disappear from the world. That may be true, but IMHO that time is a long way off and the Earth, the biosphere building design, etc., will be changed beyond recognition by that time and that any predictions should take that into account. The segment about abandoned city near Chernobyl was very interesting. It would an interesting project for someone to take a series of photos over the next fifty or a hundred and then make it into a time lapse film. Regards, Wayne Eddy ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 02:39 PM Thursday 11/27/2008, David Brin wrote: Wayne Eddy, and gang, Yeah, Life After People was a fun show, though I had no actual control over it. In fact, I think the time scales are 10-100x too short. It was tasty that they left it vague WHY we were gone. We might even have become gods and simply moved away! Sounds like we're going to make a Mormon out of Dr. Brin yet! :D And a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours and all on the list . . . (Those of you aren't who celebrating Thanksgiving today, hope you have a happy day anyway!) . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 11/27/2008 1:39:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We might even have become gods and simply moved away! Only if we've paid off the mortgage. Hmm. story idea there somewhere. Vilyehm **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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I felt bad that the other scientists got to talk about dogs and cats and rust and stuff... What did David get left with? Cockroaches. No respect for the science fiction writer! - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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John Horn wrote: I felt bad that the other scientists got to talk about dogs and cats and rust and stuff... What did David get left with? Cockroaches. No respect for the science fiction writer! Save the cockroaches, save the world! I bet in 20 or 30 years, cockroaches will be in danger, and ecologists will campaign for them :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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I talked about lots of great stuff! Monkeys and cats might use our old towers to farm birds... just guard one staircase and you've got it... letting the cats or monkeys evolve smarts, till they build tower houses of their own! But that wasn't the tilt the producers wanted. Anyone see my show The Architechs? (http://htyp.org/The_ArchiTECHS) Copies can be ordered from the HC web site. http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=75873 I'm running a comedy SF serial on Baen's UNIVERSE Magazine, online. Oh, speaking of 10,000 BC... Game studio owner Steve Jackson and I have been working together for more than a decade, refining an anthropology game.Tribes! is a realistic role-playing game (formerly called Darwinopoly), that is loads of fun for six to eight players (or multiple tribes of 8 players each) who follow simple rules to simulate life as it must have been for our ancestors, anywhere from 10,000 to 500,000 years ago -- hunting, foraging, mating, and occasionally fighting. (And, yes, it does seem relevant to 10,000 BC mania.) Can you figure out how to survive... and have successful offspring... in a world where only your own wits stand between you and harshness of nature? Tribes! has been created with the advice of several prominent anthropologists, as well as one of the most experienced game designers on the planet. (For more information see the web site for Steve Jackson Games. http://www.sjgames.com/tribes/) Among the things people have found most fascinating is the sexual politics that can arise from a very simple rule set. Were interested in finding a few anthropology professors who might like to try the game out on students, perhaps as a classroom exercise. Folks are always welcome at http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/ Thrive all! I felt bad that the other scientists got to talk about dogs and cats and rust and stuff... What did David get left with? Cockroaches. No respect for the science fiction writer! - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Brin: Life after People
Life After People will air on 2008-03-10 21:00 on brazilian's tetrahydrocanabiol oops... The History Channel. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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It's tetrahydrocannabinol! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol c History is dope Maru -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:35 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Brin: Life after People Life After People will air on 2008-03-10 21:00 on brazilian's tetrahydrocanabiol oops... The History Channel. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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So the lesson is get high on life... after people...! --- Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life After People will air on 2008-03-10 21:00 on brazilian's tetrahydrocanabiol oops... The History Channel. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Oh... I appear on several episodes of the new History Channel show The Universe starting with one on March 11. (USA) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Life After People will air on 2008-03-10 21:00 on brazilian's tetrahydrocanabiol oops... The History Channel. I just finished Cormac McCarthy's _The Road_. I've had as much life after people as my psyche can handle for a few days. :-p Great book, by the by. If there's a chance that anyone here hasn't read it, you should fix that. Jim Carrying the fire Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
