>We even had a racist dog when I was a kid. He was raised by my family  
>of white people in a neighborhood of mostly white people, so when  
>black kids from "the projects" walked by, who were different, he went  
>nuts. Then again, dogs are remarkable at picking up subtle clues in  
>the behavior of their human companions, and my dad was quite a racist.  
>The dog may have "known" that black people were "bad" because he saw  
>his master tense up when they were around.

I have a dog who was basically feral the first year of her life, living on the 
streets, and even though she's quite civilized now, she hates homeless people.  
This dog who loves all human beings, used to growl and get tense whenever she 
saw someone who was obvioulsy homeless (or looked like they were).  She's 
gotten better now, but she still is obviously uncomfortable with them.  Most of 
the homeless people with dogs that I know treat them very well, often taking 
better care of the dog than of themselves, but I can only guess what 
experiences Lulubelle (our dog) had to make her so leary of homeless people ....

Olin
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave Land<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion<mailto:brin-l@mccmedia.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: Sore losers


  On Aug 27, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote:

  > nationalism is an aberration that is found in many countries, and to  
  > be abhorred.  it is especially repugnant in nations where their  
  > citizens actually believe they are better than other nations (like  
  > some french, saudi, israeli, japanese citizens, etc.).

  I think that nationalism is not an aberration at all. I would be  
  willing to guess that it is a larger form of xenophobia, which I would  
  be further willing to guess conferred evolutionary advantages: kill  
  off the other guys and your genes live on. The other guys can be other  
  guys in the tribe (to hell with you guys, I am going to be the one  
  whose genes live on in this tribe), other tribes (to hell with those  
  guys, we are going to be the ones...) and so forth.

  We even had a racist dog when I was a kid. He was raised by my family  
  of white people in a neighborhood of mostly white people, so when  
  black kids from "the projects" walked by, who were different, he went  
  nuts. Then again, dogs are remarkable at picking up subtle clues in  
  the behavior of their human companions, and my dad was quite a racist.  
  The dog may have "known" that black people were "bad" because he saw  
  his master tense up when they were around.

  Different is Dangerous Maru

  Dave

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