Electric trains and Clipperships!
> Shucks, we'd be better of without aircraft, > heavy trucks and diesel powered ships. > It will force us to use alt fuels and > old tech, like wind and steam power!~) > We'll still need oil for lubrication, > but maybe the whale population will > return to what it was in the 17Th century. > Jon > How do you make the steam? > Nick > Assuming you haven't just pushed your > tongue all the way through your cheek. > How do we feed/house/support anything > like the current human population without > trucks, rail, and powered ships? > --[Lance] Shucks, I don't have any answers, but when all the whale oil ran out we found another source. At least steam engines don't pollute as much as oil!~) With our current transportation and distribution systems, inequitable allocation of resources, and concentration of population in cities I wonder if it is even feasible to move populations closer to to food sources? Of course there would be chaos if we stopped using Pietro-chemicals and coal, etc. to power transport vehicles. Given time, I believe human ingenuity, and advances in science, technology and engineering, can find a way to surmount almost any obstacles. Of course it might just require the end of wasteful materialism, and adapting affluent lifestyles to use more renewable sources of energy. =Then there always soylent green...:) The measure of a civilization should not be how much energy is consumed, but how it is consumed... Jon ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Electric trains and Clipperships!
Jon Louis Mann said the following on 2/19/2010 8:30 PM: > Shucks, we're better of without aircraft, > heavy trucks and diesel powered ships. > It will force us to use alt fuels and > old tech, like wind and steam power!~) > We'll still need oil for lubrication, > but maybe the whale population will > return to what it was in the 17th century. Assuming you haven't just pushed your tongue all the way through your cheek. How do we feed/house/support anything like the current human population without trucks, rail, and powered ships? --[Lance] -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Electric trains and Clipperships!
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: > > Shucks, we're better of without aircraft, > heavy trucks and diesel powered ships. > It will force us to use alt fuels and > old tech, like wind and steam power!~) How do you make the steam? Nick ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Electric trains and Clipperships!
> how do you propose to power aircraft, > heavy trucks and ships after we run > out of fossil fuels? Also, how long > will it take to replace ICE powered > vehicles? > snip > All the saving you can make in a year > are blown on one short aircraft trip. Shucks, we're better of without aircraft, heavy trucks and diesel powered ships. It will force us to use alt fuels and old tech, like wind and steam power!~) We'll still need oil for lubrication, but maybe the whale population will return to what it was in the 17th century. Jon ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
