RE: Introducing Fenris
You could make a shorter catagory that includes both religion and politics called Evil:. I like Totally Gay: myself It makes me giggle! I think we can work on entitling the title of our email messages with a meaningful pre-title... But to get the group to standardize Never! It took years to get people to stop using HTML... We are still very insensitive with our reckless disregard for the metric system Nerd From Hell ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Introducing Fenris
From: Michael Harney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know of any free Windows email programs that have regular expression support in email filtering? Pegasus Mail does. I use it at home. As an added plus, no need to worry about script viruses! - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
Michael Harney wrote: If it is not too much trouble to Nick, could there be a few new header filters added to the list: 1) politics: - any discussion regarding politics, including but not limited to posts criticizing/plauding politicians. 2) religion: - any discussion regarding religious issues, including but not limited to criticisms/endorsements of religion(s). 3) environment: - any discussion that falls under the topic of the environment. That's easy enough to set up... the question is whether people will use 'em. Can't hurt to give it a shot. -- Nick Arnett Director, Business Intelligence Services LiveWorld Inc. Phone/fax: (408) 551-0427 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
Nick Arnett wrote: Michael Harney wrote: If it is not too much trouble to Nick, could there be a few new header filters added to the list: 1) politics: - any discussion regarding politics, including but not limited to posts criticizing/plauding politicians. 2) religion: - any discussion regarding religious issues, including but not limited to criticisms/endorsements of religion(s). 3) environment: - any discussion that falls under the topic of the environment. That's easy enough to set up... the question is whether people will use 'em. Can't hurt to give it a shot. Given the history this group has of not changing headers when they should be changed, I'd recommend that Michael check out John Horn's recommendation of Pegasus Mail and see if that does the trick first. Julia who's had the wolf be a positive animal too much to have it be credible as *her* nightmare ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Harney wrote: If it is not too much trouble to Nick, could there be a few new header filters added to the list: 1) politics: - any discussion regarding politics, including but not limited to posts criticizing/plauding politicians. 2) religion: - any discussion regarding religious issues, including but not limited to criticisms/endorsements of religion(s). 3) environment: - any discussion that falls under the topic of the environment. That's easy enough to set up... the question is whether people will use 'em. Can't hurt to give it a shot. You could make a shorter catagory that includes both religion and politics called Evil:. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 04:44:54PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Given the history this group has of not changing headers when they should be changed, I'd recommend that Michael check out John Horn's recommendation of Pegasus Mail and see if that does the trick first. I think you're probably right about relying on people to change subjects. Another possibility is something like Mozilla mail (or Thunderbird, the same thing a la carte) which has Bayesian filtering capabilities. Just train it with a bunch of good emails and a bunch of bad emails, and it will filter all the emails into good and bad for you! -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
The Fool wrote: You could make a shorter catagory that includes both religion and politics called Evil:. So, given your tendency to post political articles and essays, does that make you the list's biggest source of Evil? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick Arnett wrote: Michael Harney wrote: If it is not too much trouble to Nick, could there be a few new header filters added to the list: 1) politics: - any discussion regarding politics, including but not limited to posts criticizing/plauding politicians. 2) religion: - any discussion regarding religious issues, including but not limited to criticisms/endorsements of religion(s). 3) environment: - any discussion that falls under the topic of the environment. That's easy enough to set up... the question is whether people will use 'em. Can't hurt to give it a shot. Given the history this group has of not changing headers when they should be changed, I'd recommend that Michael check out John Horn's recommendation of Pegasus Mail and see if that does the trick first. I've already installed Pegasus Mail. I looked it up shortly after reading John's post. Its a matter of playing with the filters to see if it will do what I want it to, then , if it does, porting over my mailboxes. I like the idea of using a program other than Outlook Express for my mail, but porting over my boxes is quite a task as I already use a large number of message rules in Outlook, and have a number of different folders, and have 3 different boxes/identities I use (one for personal, one for work, and one I use as a spam target if I am asked to enter my e-mail address on sites that I think may sell spam me or sell my email address... surprisingly the most spam comes on my work box). I still think the headers would be helpful though. I don't think that too many good messages will be lost in the process, but you are probably right that well crafted filters would be more effective at not filtering posts a person might want. Even so, the header would make it easier to filter messages if a person were to use a multi-stage filtering process (which would be more effective at keeping a me ssage that one might not want to filter). Julia who's had the wolf be a positive animal too much to have it be credible as *her* nightmare Fenris isn't an evil character, Fenris is a character that is a culmination of my litteral nightmares, and my nightmares aren't about boogey-men and supervillians, they are situational. Fenris is more of a self portrait than a villain. It represents me and the situations in my Nightmares. A wolf was chosen because I have had very bad dreams about bad things happening to my dogs in the past. There is much more to the character of Fenris which I may address in the future, but not right now. Obviously, I've put thought into the character before, so I may as well say that I had started modeling this character in Lightwave months ago. I haven't finished it yet, but may in the next couple months if I can find the time to. Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
On 14 Feb 2004, at 12:19 am, Steve Sloan II wrote: The Fool wrote: You could make a shorter catagory that includes both religion and politics called Evil:. So, given your tendency to post political articles and essays, does that make you the list's biggest source of Evil? It's an inoculation :) -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Our products just aren't engineered for security. - Brian Valentine, senior vice president in charge of Microsoft's Windows development team. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Introducing Fenris
Hello, I am Fenris, the culmination of Michael's Nightmares. I've come here today to make an announcement. Michael has no further interest in the bulk of this discussion. It seems that reading the constant/perpetual political discussions (in quotes to denote sarcasm as those so-called discussions are typically more like pissing contests and nit-picking competitions) makes him feel ... what's a good word or phrase for it? Emotionally unstable, for lack of a better word/phrase. He would rather not have the influx in his mailbox, and has all but stopped reading any of the listmail as a consequence. He could filter his own mail, but feels it will probably inadvertantly filtering posts he might want. As an alternative, he asked that I discuss the following possibility with the list: If it is not too much trouble to Nick, could there be a few new header filters added to the list: 1) politics: - any discussion regarding politics, including but not limited to posts criticizing/plauding politicians. 2) religion: - any discussion regarding religious issues, including but not limited to criticisms/endorsements of religion(s). 3) environment: - any discussion that falls under the topic of the environment. If this is not too much of an inconvenience for Nick, and the other list members are willing to adopt these headers, we would really appreciate it. Even if it is inconvenient to Nick, and he is unable to assist, adopting these headers without Nick's intervention would make things easier for individuals (not just Michael) to filter/sort the discussions themselves, with less fear of missing posts that they might want to recieve. The list may not be as destablizing as mixing morphine analogues (which his messed up metabolism makes from gluten products) and caffine to Michael, but he is not able to cope with the list as it is. He does not wish to leave or filter all but brin: posts, but will probably do so if another solution is not possible. Best Regards, Fenris P.S. No, I have not gone completely insane, I just find it easier to say certain things in a character other than myself at times (three years of Theater in High School will do that to you) ... besides, it makes the discussion more interesting. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
In a message dated 2/12/2004 10:35:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fenris P.S. No, I have not gone completely insane, I just find it easier to say certain things in a character other than myself at times (three years of Theater in High School will do that to you) ... besides, it makes the discussion more interesting. And putting Fenris in the subject line makes me think it was from the H. Beam Piper list. As to the other subject matter, AOL has a nice big delete button. William Taylor - All the world's a stage--- with two of the horses lame, the driver with three arrows in his back, the indians to the rear and gaining and there's no cavalry in sight. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Introducing Fenris In a message dated 2/12/2004 10:35:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fenris P.S. No, I have not gone completely insane, I just find it easier to say certain things in a character other than myself at times (three years of Theater in High School will do that to you) ... besides, it makes the discussion more interesting. And putting Fenris in the subject line makes me think it was from the H. Beam Piper list. Fenris is just a damn cool name for a wolf, and my nighmare culmination is a wolf character. As to the other subject matter, AOL has a nice big delete button. Not using AOL, and probably never will again. It's one of my least favored ISP's. Deleting is easy, yes, it's knowing what to delete that is the hard part. If I could use custom filters based on regular expressions, I could probably catch 98% of the unwanted messages, and only lose about 2% of messages I might actually be interested in, but the e-mail program I use (Outlook Express, sometimes called Look Out Express) does not have support for regular expression filters. Considering that the Internet Explorer Browser has Regular expression support in its implementation of Javascript, I find it surprising that it does not have such support. Anyone know of any free Windows email programs that have regular expression support in email filtering? Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
