Re: Kil'n People
At 19:14 13-12-2002 -0500, Dee Daley wrote: Reminded of a coworker who says there are good days (payday Fridays), and very good work days (payday Fridays before a holiday monday), and the best days (payday Friday before a monday holiday and a week off). So, what does your coworker call that most glorious of days: payday Friday, followed by retirement as of Monday? :-) Jeroen T minus 30 years till retirement van Baardwijk LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Kil'n People
kil'n ? I haven't read the book yet, but isn't it kiln, as in the oven to bake clay/bricks? Kil'n looks like it belong in the redneck sentence 'Ol Jed's out back hunt'n and kil'n some possums for dinner. Does Brin actually use kil'n - is it supposed to sound like killin? -Bryon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Kil'n People
The original U.S. hardback was Kiln People. The first one I saw that was Kil'n People was a U.K. softbound edition. It's another darn pun, although I'm not sure if David intended from the beginning. I asked, but his answer was too witty to discern... Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bryon Daly Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kil'n People kil'n ? I haven't read the book yet, but isn't it kiln, as in the oven to bake clay/bricks? Kil'n looks like it belong in the redneck sentence 'Ol Jed's out back hunt'n and kil'n some possums for dinner. Does Brin actually use kil'n - is it supposed to sound like killin? -Bryon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Kil'n People
In a message dated 12/13/2002 2:50:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The original U.S. hardback was Kiln People. The first one I saw that was Kil'n People was a U.K. softbound edition. It's another darn pun, although I'm not sure if David intended from the beginning. I asked, but his answer was too witty to discern... Perhaps Great Britain is a bit closer to certain historic sites in Germany. Or putting the apostrophe in makes it look Irish. William Taylor Anyone who sings about ironing their goldfish can't be entirely rational. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Kil'n People
After finally getting around to buying a Brin book (Kil'n People, which I picked because it looked intriguing and it was signed too!), I even managed to read it in the same month I bought it, which is more impressive when one considers that I have two hundred unread books that have been bought over the last couple of years. The short version: I liked it! The long version: It was unpredictable, as should be the case with a thriller, but also did not rely so much on contrived situations to drive the plot. Everything that happened had sufficient reasoning behind it to justify the flow of events as was laid out [a counter-example would be Alastair Reynolds's Chasm City, a very good book (his best IMHO) but one that is led down by the number of happy coincidences and blatantly contrived episodes within]. The tension mounts up almost unbearably and I was forced to sit in a Borders cafe to finish off the last couple of hundred pages when I should have been on my way to a party. The myths and history of golems was very interesting to read, and Brin's speculations also made me think. Aside from the overuse of puns using the words 'dit', 'clay' and 'kil'n' (Kil'n Street Blues for crying out loud!), it was well written all the way through. The best scene has to be the one in the desert between ditRitu and ditAlbert. Banging pots indeed! So, can Brin-L recommend some more Brin for me? ;) Lal GSV Newly Converted Fan ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Kil'n People
From: Lalith Vipulananthan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] The short version: I liked it! I liked it too. I'm sure I missed most of the puns and stuff. I'm always missing stuff like that. So, can Brin-L recommend some more Brin for me? ;) Ha! You asked for it now, Lal! _The Postman_ is in my top 10 favorite books. (Just completely forget the Costner movie while you are reading it.) I liked it enough I ran a RPG based in that world. And made all my players read the book first too. And none of them regretted it. The original Uplift Trilogy (_Sundiver_, _Startide Rising_ and _The Uplift War_) is a must too. I'm sure others will chime in too. - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Kil'n People
In a message dated 12/12/2002 4:03:55 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After finally getting around to buying a Brin book (Kil'n People, which I picked because it looked intriguing and it was signed too!), At a used or new bookstore? I picked up my copy used. There were three copies all in a row. It made me wonder if three people treated it as a read once only book. even managed to read it in the same month I bought it, which is more impressive when one considers that I have two hundred unread books that have been bought over the last couple of years. I have 10,000 unread books. But then again I'm a bookseller. The short version: I liked it! Aside from the overuse of puns using the words 'dit', 'clay' and 'kil'n' (Kil'n Street Blues for crying out loud!), it was well written all the way through. I missed the Tolkien references in the Jijo books the first time through. I no longer trust our good Dr. Brin when it comes to names. Everything can be a pun or a reference. So, can Brin-L recommend some more Brin for me? ;) Read all in the order written? And everything on his webpage. Lal GSV Newly Converted Fan Hey, welcome even if you're pagan William Taylor - Where would British dit people have their church headquarters? 'oventry ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Kil'n People
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/12/2002 4:03:55 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: even managed to read it in the same month I bought it, which is more impressive when one considers that I have two hundred unread books that have been bought over the last couple of years. I have 10,000 unread books. But then again I'm a bookseller. We have over 1000 books that I haven't read yet, and I'm *not* a bookseller. I've been burned too many times with things going out of print, so if I think I might want to own it sometime in the next 5 years, I buy it when I have the chance. Plus there are books that Dan has bought and read, and I intend to read sometime, but just haven't gotten to yet. (Then there's the situation where I buy one book by a particular author or in a particular series, then buy a bunch more, recommend the inital book to Dan, and he goes on to read the others ahead of me. Right now I'm reading an Elizabeth Moon book I bought for myself more than for him, but that he beat me to. He's reading a Ken MacLeod book; the first Ken MacLeod book we got was one I read because it was nominated for the Hugo, and I went on to list it as my first choice, but he's the one actually reading them now.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Kil'n People
In a message dated 12/12/2002 5:08:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... I no longer trust our good Dr. Brin when it comes to names. Everything can be a pun or a reference. David assured me that he left some puns out, so it could have been worse, apparently. Did you notice that the number of puns per page increased almost exponentially throughout the book? Well, exponentially might be hyperbole. Or hyperbolic. Nick Or hyperbolliks, as the British would have it. I didn't count. I seem to treat a book differently on the first read, than I do on a slower take second read. Virgin versus experienced maybe. I got the word from our good Dr. that the Pila solid claw picture is an errata. Pity. William Taylor There goes that conspiracy theory... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Kil'n People
I wrote: Sheesh! That's the last time I say something like I think that's all he wrote without stopping to thing about it first... And of course, that should say without stopping to think about it first Some days... Reggie Bautista Nyarlathotep Strikes Again Maru _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
