Re: Maybe they should try Wisk . . . ?

2008-03-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro

Warren Ockrassa wrote:

 If Wisk worked, there would be much sadness in the community at the  
 passing of the rings of Rhea, on par with the mourning of Pluto's  
 passing as a planet -- one can imagine the headlines now:
 
When I was working to get humanity a new planet, I asked
some astronomers a very basic question: why galaxies have
stars, stars have planets, planets have satellites, but
satellites don't have sub-satellites?

Nobody answered me, but I guess I could give a reasonable
explanation.

Alberto Monteiro (fsck space. let's save this planet)

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Re: Maybe they should try Wisk . . . ?

2008-03-09 Thread Warren Ockrassa
If Wisk worked, there would be much sadness in the community at the  
passing of the rings of Rhea, on par with the mourning of Pluto's  
passing as a planet -- one can imagine the headlines now:

With a Brisk Wisky Rub: Gone, O Rhea!

So be glad some things just aren't feasible.

--
Warren Ockrassa
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Books | http://books.nightwares.com/
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Maybe they should try Wisk . . . ?

2008-03-06 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
March 6, 2008

Dwayne Brown
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1726
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Carolina Martinez
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
818-354-9382
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RELEASE: 08-074

SATURN'S MOON RHEA ALSO MAY HAVE RINGS

PASADENA, Calif. - NASA's Cassini spacecraft has found evidence of
material orbiting Rhea, Saturn's second largest moon. This is the
first time rings may have been found around a moon.

A broad debris disk and at least one ring appear to have been detected
by a suite of six instruments on Cassini specifically designed to
study the atmospheres and particles around Saturn and its moons.

Until now, only planets were known to have rings, but now Rhea seems
to have some family ties to its ringed parent Saturn, said Geraint
Jones, Cassini scientist, and lead author on a paper that appears in
the March 7 issue of the journal Science. Jones began this work while
at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research,
Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany, and is now at the Mullard Space Science
Laboratory, University College, London.

Rhea is roughly 950 miles in diameter. The apparent debris disk
measures several thousand miles from end to end. The particles that
make up the disk and any embedded rings probably range from the size
of small pebbles to boulders. An additional dust cloud may extend up
to 3,000 miles from the moon's center, almost eight times the radius
of Rhea.

Like finding planets around other stars, and moons around asteroids,
these findings are opening a new field of rings around moons, said
Norbert Krupp, a scientist on Cassini's Magnetospheric Imaging
Instrument from the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research.

Since the discovery, Cassini scientists have carried out numerical
simulations to determine if Rhea can maintain rings. The models show
that Rhea's gravity field, in combination with its orbit around
Saturn, could allow rings that form to remain in place for a very
long time.

The discovery was a result of a Cassini close flyby of Rhea in
November 2005, when instruments on the spacecraft observed the
environment around the moon. Three instruments sampled the dust
directly. The existence of some debris was expected because a rain of
dust constantly hits Saturn's moons, including Rhea, knocking
particles into space around them. Other instruments' observations
showed how the moon was interacting with Saturn's magnetosphere, and
ruled out the possibility of an atmosphere.

Evidence for a debris disk in addition to this tenuous dust cloud came
from a gradual drop on either side of Rhea in the number of electrons
detected by two of Cassini's instruments. Material near Rhea appeared
to be shielding Cassini from the usual rain of electrons. Cassini's
Magnetospheric Imaging Instrument also detected sharp, brief drops in
electrons on both sides of the moon, suggesting the presence of rings
within the disk of debris. The rings of Uranus were found in a
similar fashion, by NASA's Kuiper Airborne Observatory in 1977, when
light from a star blinked on and off as it passed behind Uranus'
rings.

Seeing almost the same signatures on either side of Rhea was the
clincher, added Jones. After ruling out many other possibilities,
we said these are most likely rings. No one was expecting rings
around a moon.

One possible explanation for these rings is that they are remnants
from an asteroid or comet collision in Rhea's distant past. Such a
collision may have pitched large quantities of gas and solid
particles around Rhea. Once the gas dissipated, all that remained
were the ring particles. Other moons of Saturn, such as Mimas, show
evidence of a catastrophic collision that almost tore the moon apart.


The diversity in our solar system never fails to amaze us, said
Candy Hansen, co-author and Cassini scientist on the Ultraviolet
Imaging Spectrograph at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena,
Calif. JPL manages Cassini for NASA. Many years ago we thought
Saturn was the only planet with rings. Now we may have a moon of
Saturn that is a miniature version of its even more elaborately
decorated parent.

These ring findings make Rhea a prime candidate for further study.
Initial observations by the imaging team when Rhea was near the sun
in the sky did not detect dust near the moon remotely. Additional
observations are planned to look for the larger particles.

The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the
European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The
Magnetospheric Imaging Instrument was designed, built and is operated
by an international team led by the Applied Physics Laboratory, Johns
Hopkins University, Laurel, Md. For information on the Cassini
mission, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/cassini


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Re: Maybe they should try Wisk . . . ?

2008-03-06 Thread John Garcia
How would they rub it on?

remembering old tv maru
john



On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Ronn! Blankenship 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 March 6, 2008

 Dwayne Brown
 Headquarters, Washington
 202-358-1726
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Carolina Martinez
 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
 818-354-9382
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 RELEASE: 08-074

 SATURN'S MOON RHEA ALSO MAY HAVE RINGS

 PASADENA, Calif. - NASA's Cassini spacecraft has found evidence of
 material orbiting Rhea, Saturn's second largest moon. This is the
 first time rings may have been found around a moon.

 A broad debris disk and at least one ring appear to have been detected
 by a suite of six instruments on Cassini specifically designed to
 study the atmospheres and particles around Saturn and its moons.

 Until now, only planets were known to have rings, but now Rhea seems
 to have some family ties to its ringed parent Saturn, said Geraint
 Jones, Cassini scientist, and lead author on a paper that appears in
 the March 7 issue of the journal Science. Jones began this work while
 at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research,
 Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany, and is now at the Mullard Space Science
 Laboratory, University College, London.

 Rhea is roughly 950 miles in diameter. The apparent debris disk
 measures several thousand miles from end to end. The particles that
 make up the disk and any embedded rings probably range from the size
 of small pebbles to boulders. An additional dust cloud may extend up
 to 3,000 miles from the moon's center, almost eight times the radius
 of Rhea.

 Like finding planets around other stars, and moons around asteroids,
 these findings are opening a new field of rings around moons, said
 Norbert Krupp, a scientist on Cassini's Magnetospheric Imaging
 Instrument from the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research.

 Since the discovery, Cassini scientists have carried out numerical
 simulations to determine if Rhea can maintain rings. The models show
 that Rhea's gravity field, in combination with its orbit around
 Saturn, could allow rings that form to remain in place for a very
 long time.

 The discovery was a result of a Cassini close flyby of Rhea in
 November 2005, when instruments on the spacecraft observed the
 environment around the moon. Three instruments sampled the dust
 directly. The existence of some debris was expected because a rain of
 dust constantly hits Saturn's moons, including Rhea, knocking
 particles into space around them. Other instruments' observations
 showed how the moon was interacting with Saturn's magnetosphere, and
 ruled out the possibility of an atmosphere.

 Evidence for a debris disk in addition to this tenuous dust cloud came
 from a gradual drop on either side of Rhea in the number of electrons
 detected by two of Cassini's instruments. Material near Rhea appeared
 to be shielding Cassini from the usual rain of electrons. Cassini's
 Magnetospheric Imaging Instrument also detected sharp, brief drops in
 electrons on both sides of the moon, suggesting the presence of rings
 within the disk of debris. The rings of Uranus were found in a
 similar fashion, by NASA's Kuiper Airborne Observatory in 1977, when
 light from a star blinked on and off as it passed behind Uranus'
 rings.

 Seeing almost the same signatures on either side of Rhea was the
 clincher, added Jones. After ruling out many other possibilities,
 we said these are most likely rings. No one was expecting rings
 around a moon.

 One possible explanation for these rings is that they are remnants
 from an asteroid or comet collision in Rhea's distant past. Such a
 collision may have pitched large quantities of gas and solid
 particles around Rhea. Once the gas dissipated, all that remained
 were the ring particles. Other moons of Saturn, such as Mimas, show
 evidence of a catastrophic collision that almost tore the moon apart.


 The diversity in our solar system never fails to amaze us, said
 Candy Hansen, co-author and Cassini scientist on the Ultraviolet
 Imaging Spectrograph at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena,
 Calif. JPL manages Cassini for NASA. Many years ago we thought
 Saturn was the only planet with rings. Now we may have a moon of
 Saturn that is a miniature version of its even more elaborately
 decorated parent.

 These ring findings make Rhea a prime candidate for further study.
 Initial observations by the imaging team when Rhea was near the sun
 in the sky did not detect dust near the moon remotely. Additional
 observations are planned to look for the larger particles.

 The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the
 European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The
 Magnetospheric Imaging Instrument was designed, built and is operated
 by an international team led by the Applied Physics Laboratory, Johns
 Hopkins University, Laurel, Md. For information on the Cassini
 mission, visit:

 http://www.nasa.gov/cassini


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