RE: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom
-Original Message- From: ritu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:12 PM To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' Subject: RE: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom RobertS wrote: Rob said: In heavily toward a Libertarian origin for the Culture. I don't see how a Socialist movement would ever give up power and control. Since when did the Minds give up power and control? Or are you talking about those insignificant humanoids they humour? Of course! G I can't see socialist giving up power even to a machine. Well, they don't have to give up the power voluntarilybut they would have been easier to talk/dupe/finesse out of power. I am curious as to why you think this. Its hard to judge since we have not seen evil libertarians in power yet. It seems to me that this would be a function of power, and not ideology. I guess my thought question here is ... If Evil Libertarians ruled the world, how hard would it be to despot this form of government? This is an important distinction, since powerful government is needed to enforce libertarian values. What makes libertarianism so damn special? Nerd From Hell Ritu ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom
Rob said: In heavily toward a Libertarian origin for the Culture. I don't see how a Socialist movement would ever give up power and control. Since when did the Minds give up power and control? Or are you talking about those insignificant humanoids they humour? Rich ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom
- Original Message - From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:26 PM Subject: Re: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom Rob said: In heavily toward a Libertarian origin for the Culture. I don't see how a Socialist movement would ever give up power and control. Since when did the Minds give up power and control? Or are you talking about those insignificant humanoids they humour? Of course! G I can't see socialist giving up power even to a machine. xponent Line Six Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:47:49AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: Do you see the Culture as a Libertarian outcome or as a Socialist outcome? Yes. (I think I might be able to predict your very short answer, How'd you do? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:47:49AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: Do you see the Culture as a Libertarian outcome or as a Socialist outcome? Yes. (I think I might be able to predict your very short answer, How'd you do? As expected, but I really am curious as to your opinion. xponent Oh Yes They Call Him The Streak Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom
On 9 Mar 2004, at 12:34 am, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:47:49AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: Do you see the Culture as a Libertarian outcome or as a Socialist outcome? Yes. (I think I might be able to predict your very short answer, How'd you do? As expected, but I really am curious as to your opinion. The Culture looks like a socialist utopia. It also looks like a libertarian utopia. The difference might be in how to get from *here* to *there*. Ken MacLeod manages similar ambiguities. -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Banks' Culture Was: Race to the Bottom
RobertS wrote: Rob said: In heavily toward a Libertarian origin for the Culture. I don't see how a Socialist movement would ever give up power and control. Since when did the Minds give up power and control? Or are you talking about those insignificant humanoids they humour? Of course! G I can't see socialist giving up power even to a machine. Well, they don't have to give up the power voluntarilybut they would have been easier to talk/dupe/finesse out of power. Ritu ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
