Re: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)

2011-09-19 Thread xponentrob

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From: Nick Arnett
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:02 AM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)

I'm still here, of course.  Recently joined NetBase as director of product 
management, so I'm busy getting up to speed.


One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, 
Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in 
forums, list servers, etc.  Discussion tends to start in the new social 
media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is 
supported.


I suppose if we really want to revive Brin-L, we need to have links to it 
appearing periodically in social media.


Nick



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Re: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)

2011-09-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
Yup. 

More seriously, why don't we set up circles on google plus? Then we'd still 
have that interaction via means like this one, with about the same openness, 
and the ability to choose correspondents ourselves?

That is, if each of us were to create a 'brin' circle in g+, and add each other 
to our own circles, in that way the conversation would still be live - and if 
someone got too obstreperous for a given person to tolerate, he'd be able to 
remove that person from his own 'brin' circle, without affecting anyone else. 

Strikes me as being pretty grassroots fair and flexible, anyway. 

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On Sep 18, 2011, at 14:07, "Dan Minette"  wrote:

> I still
> see the trend of the internet is to go more and more to closed circles of
> folks who all agree and short sound byte discussions.

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RE: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)

2011-09-18 Thread Dan Minette

Nick wrote:

>One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter,
>Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in
>forums, list servers, etc.  Discussion tends to start in the new social
>media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is
>supported.

People who I have contact with on other mailing lists have reported that the
vast majority of broad forums, like Brin-L or Culture, have lost a lot of
traffic.  On the whole, most folks I've discussed this with have found few
outlets where long conversations occur.  

I think we've differed on this for more than a decade, Nick. :-)  I still
see the trend of the internet is to go more and more to closed circles of
folks who all agree and short sound byte discussions.

Ticia wrote:

>It'll be interesting to see how all the social networking develops in the
>next few years…

My prediction is that the replacement for Twitter will be a networking site
where there is only room for emotocons. :-)

Dan M. 


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Re: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)

2011-09-18 Thread Ticia

On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:

> I'm still here, of course.  Recently joined NetBase as director of product 
> management, so I'm busy getting up to speed.
> 
> One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, 
> Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in 
> forums, list servers, etc.  Discussion tends to start in the new social 
> media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is 
> supported.
> 
> I suppose if we really want to revive Brin-L, we need to have links to it 
> appearing periodically in social media.
> 

I didn't know that, interesting… 

See? That's what Brin-L is still good for!  For better or worse we are still a 
kind of social network, with a history and conections dating back to a previous 
online era… A brilliant source for information should we need it… It'll be 
interesting to see how all the social networking develops in the next few years…


Ticia ',:)


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