Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-11 Thread Andrew Crystall
Just found a possible soloution for this, actually.

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/tweakui

general tab, stop applications from stealing focus

Andy
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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-09 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote:
 
 On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:06:23AM -0600, The Fool wrote:
  Proxomitron is better.  All hail Proxomitron.  Oh wait erik can't use
  it...
 
 Proxomitron is dead. http://www.proxomitron.org/

Still working on my machine, though.  It's not dead,
just no longer supported!
I loaded it on my machine as a trial, and it certainly
made a dent in the number of ads.  But configuring it was just
messy enough that I never got around to putting it on the rest
of the computers/browsers around here...

---David

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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 06:55:28PM -0500, David Hobby wrote:

   Still working on my machine, though.  It's not dead, just no
 longer supported!

I regret to say the Proxomitron web filter is well and truly dead.
--the author


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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-09 Thread The Fool
 From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 06:55:28PM -0500, David Hobby wrote:
 
Still working on my machine, though.  It's not dead, just no
  longer supported!
 
 I regret to say the Proxomitron web filter is well and truly dead.
 --the author

When Mozilla can apply filters to http tracfic like this:

*(img$SET(a=1)|iframe$SET(a=0))([^]++(($TST(a=1)src=$AV((^*(your_accoun
t|.(gif|jpe(g|)|jpg|png|psp)))*([?]|;)*)
$SET(5=height)$SET(4=width)$SET(1=0)$SET(0=0)|(width|height)\4=$AV(((0|[2-
7])$SET(b=0)|1$SET(b=1)|
[#8:*]$SET(b=2))\0)[^]++(height|width)\5=$AV(($TST(b=0)[0-7]|$TST(b=1)*|
$TST(b=2)1)\1))
$SET(6=\5=\1
\4=\0))|((^[^]++width=$AV(*))[^]++(height)\4=$AV(1)|(^[^]++height=$A
V(*))[^]++(width)\4=$AV(1))
$SET(6=\4=1))([^]++|)$SET(3=img \6)*

Let me know.
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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 06:55:28PM -0600, The Fool wrote:
 
 When Mozilla can apply filters to http tracfic like this:

[uninformative example deleted]

 Let me know.

Mozilla can already filter everything necessary for a pleasant web
experience. If you want to give an example of a URL that you feel is
a problem for Mozilla, please do. If you feel the need for something
esoteric, you can always fork the code.  If your fork is good enough, it
may even get into the main branch. If not many people find it useful,
well...


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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-09 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 9 Nov 2003 at 18:55, David Hobby wrote:

 Erik Reuter wrote:
  
  On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:06:23AM -0600, The Fool wrote:
   Proxomitron is better.  All hail Proxomitron.  Oh wait erik can't
   use it...
  
  Proxomitron is dead. http://www.proxomitron.org/
 
  Still working on my machine, though.  It's not dead,
 just no longer supported!
  I loaded it on my machine as a trial, and it certainly
 made a dent in the number of ads.  But configuring it was just
 messy enough that I never got around to putting it on the rest
 of the computers/browsers around here...

As a note for Spybot Search and Destroy users:

run it in advanced mode, select tools / hosts file
Click on Add Spybot-SD Hosts List

And watch 80%+ of internet adverts vanish.

I use a more detailed utility which dynamically updates my hosts 
file, but for most people the SSD soloution is simple and effective 
against most adverts.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-08 Thread The Fool
 From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:31:15PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
 
  He's complaining about perfectly legitimate websites which, when they
  finish loading, set themselves as the active window. That IS
annoying,
  but hardly the pop ups you're thinking of.
 
 Nevertheless, the person who suggested the Mozilla browser,
 http://mozilla.org/ , had the solution. Just go to Tools/Preferences
and
 then select Advanced and uncheck [Allow scripts to:] Raise or lower
 windows.
 
 (You may also want to uncheck move or resize windows, hide the status
 bar, change the status bar text, etc.)
 
 Mozilla is great, all hail Mozilla!

Proxomitron is better.  All hail Proxomitron.  Oh wait erik can't use
it...

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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-08 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:06:23AM -0600, The Fool wrote:
 Proxomitron is better.  All hail Proxomitron.  Oh wait erik can't use
 it...

Proxomitron is dead. http://www.proxomitron.org/


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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-08 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 11:17:32AM -0600, The Fool wrote:

 Proxomitron needs no more improvement.

Yeah, and the web isn't changing, either.


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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-08 Thread The Fool
 From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 11:17:32AM -0600, The Fool wrote:
 
  Proxomitron needs no more improvement.
 
 Yeah, and the web isn't changing, either.

I guess I Don't add new filters all the time.
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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread The Fool
 From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Some websites have a feature that causes the web browser or some other
 window to jump to the top of the screen when it finishes loading.  This
is,
 of course, highly annoying for multi-taskers like myself.Does
anybody
 know of a way to turn this feature off?

Disable javascript, activeX controls and active scripting.
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RE: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread Chad Cooper
It's a form of popup. You can try using a popup preventer.
Turing off active x, javascript and the like only results in broken pages,
which can be annoying, if you have to change settings to see a page
correctly.
Nerd From Hell

 -Original Message-
 From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Web Browser Question
 
 
 Some websites have a feature that causes the web browser or 
 some other window to jump to the top of the screen when it 
 finishes loading.  This is,
 of course, highly annoying for multi-taskers like myself.
 Does anybody
 know of a way to turn this feature off?
 
 JDG
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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread The Fool
 From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 It's a form of popup. You can try using a popup preventer.
 Turing off active x, javascript and the like only results in broken
pages,
 which can be annoying, if you have to change settings to see a page
 correctly.
 Nerd From Hell

Says you.  I never have any problems.
 
  From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Some websites have a feature that causes the web browser or 
  some other window to jump to the top of the screen when it 
  finishes loading.  This is,
  of course, highly annoying for multi-taskers like myself.
  Does anybody
  know of a way to turn this feature off?

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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 6 Nov 2003 at 14:59, The Fool wrote:

  From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  It's a form of popup. You can try using a popup preventer.
  Turing off active x, javascript and the like only results in broken
 pages,
  which can be annoying, if you have to change settings to see a page
  correctly. Nerd From Hell
 
 Says you.  I never have any problems.

I think it says a lot about how adventurous you are at visiting web 
pages.

Andy
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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread CJ Kucera
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:11:13PM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote:
 Some websites have a feature that causes the web browser or some other
 window to jump to the top of the screen when it finishes loading.  This is,
 of course, highly annoying for multi-taskers like myself.Does anybody
 know of a way to turn this feature off?

While this probably isn't quite the answer you're looking for, the
web browser Mozilla (and Firebird) has a really good popup blocking
feature which has, in the years I've used it, been perfect at blocking
the popups I don't want to see and allowing the ones I do (on my
bank's website, etc).  If you don't mind trying out a new browser,
I'd highly recommend it: http://mozilla.org/

-CJ

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RE: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread Chad Cooper
 
 Says you.  I never have any problems.
  
I lose perspective since I work with corporate web-based applications that
require these things turned on.
For running many corporate apps, it is a requirement.

Chad

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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread The Fool
 From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On 6 Nov 2003 at 14:59, The Fool wrote:
 
   From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   It's a form of popup. You can try using a popup preventer.
   Turing off active x, javascript and the like only results in broken
  pages,
   which can be annoying, if you have to change settings to see a page
   correctly. Nerd From Hell
  
  Says you.  I never have any problems.
 
 I think it says a lot about how adventurous you are at visiting web 
 pages.

God forbid that I ever have ninety separate IE browser sesions open at
the same time.

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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Web Browser Question
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:22:27 -
On 6 Nov 2003 at 14:59, The Fool wrote:

  From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  It's a form of popup. You can try using a popup preventer.
  Turing off active x, javascript and the like only results in broken
 pages,
  which can be annoying, if you have to change settings to see a page
  correctly. Nerd From Hell

 Says you.  I never have any problems.
I think it says a lot about how adventurous you are at visiting web
pages.
It's sort of a fascinating look into The Fool's psyche, though, isn't it? 
Even that small thing is taken to an extreme. :)

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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread The Fool
 From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
  Says you.  I never have any problems.
   

 I lose perspective since I work with corporate web-based applications
that
 require these things turned on.
 For running many corporate apps, it is a requirement.

Isn't that why internet explorer has 'zones'?
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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread Reggie Bautista
Chad Cooper wrote:
 It's a form of popup. You can try using a popup preventer.
 Turing off active x, javascript and the like only results in broken
pages,
 which can be annoying, if you have to change settings to see a page
 correctly.
 Nerd From Hell
The Fool replied:
Says you.  I never have any problems.
The Fool, what browser do you use?  IE?  Netscape?  Opera?

JDG, you might want to consider using the Opera browser.  Popup windows
still come up, but they usually pop under instead of over the window you
were originally in.  Opera also renders pages more quickly than IE or
Netscape (not sure how it compares to other browsers) and has some
other nifty features.
It's available for a free download at http://www.opera.com/
The free version has banner ads in the bar at the top that has all the
browser buttons.  There is also a pay version available that gets rid of
those ads.
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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 6 Nov 2003 at 16:41, Reggie Bautista wrote:

 Chad Cooper wrote:
   It's a form of popup. You can try using a popup preventer.
   Turing off active x, javascript and the like only results in
   broken
 pages,
   which can be annoying, if you have to change settings to see a
   page correctly. Nerd From Hell
 
 The Fool replied:
 Says you.  I never have any problems.
 
 The Fool, what browser do you use?  IE?  Netscape?  Opera?
 
 JDG, you might want to consider using the Opera browser.  Popup
 windows still come up, but they usually pop under instead of over the

Um. People...
You didn't read what he said.

He's complaining about perfectly legitimate websites which, when they 
finish loading, set themselves as the active window. That IS 
annoying, but hardly the pop ups you're thinking of.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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RE: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread ChadCooper
 
 Um. People...
 You didn't read what he said.
 
 He's complaining about perfectly legitimate websites which, when they 
 finish loading, set themselves as the active window. That IS 
 annoying, but hardly the pop ups you're thinking of.

Hey wait a minute...
I said it was a form of popup. It is a more recent feature of popups, where
the popped up windows actually goes to the back, so it does not interfere
with the parent window. The result is people are more likely to keep the
popup up, unfocused. The way to do this is to bring the parent browser
instance to the front, and when you are done with that window and close it,
you have a residual popup left.

I suppose that the definition of popup is subject to interpetation...
 


 
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Re: Web Browser Question

2003-11-06 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:31:15PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:

 He's complaining about perfectly legitimate websites which, when they
 finish loading, set themselves as the active window. That IS annoying,
 but hardly the pop ups you're thinking of.

Nevertheless, the person who suggested the Mozilla browser,
http://mozilla.org/ , had the solution. Just go to Tools/Preferences and
then select Advanced and uncheck [Allow scripts to:] Raise or lower
windows.

(You may also want to uncheck move or resize windows, hide the status
bar, change the status bar text, etc.)

Mozilla is great, all hail Mozilla!


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