RE: Got Brains?
I've been having email problems with the switch to Comcast. I think this will be a workaround. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Seeberger Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:15 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Got Brains? - Original Message - From: jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: Got Brains? Everyone tries to compensate for poor self esteem, the ones who don't are sociopaths.G Some are more obvious about it than others, though. -- Ronn! a lot of people have low self esteem and are not sociopaths; they are the quiet, unassuming people you see everywhere, who may have a lot to say but lack the assertive nature to speak up. you will see their thoughtful insights more, online. there are many high dominant, alpha plus, type a personalities who can often have sociopathic tendencies. judicious jon I think you are misunderstanding what I've said here. What I'm saying is that people who have no doubts are sociopaths. I would tend to differ with this. I've lived with a guy who was a paranoid schitzo, and he had tremendous self esteem issues. I've also been around very spiritual people who knew their own value as a human being in their heart. They didn't have to prove themselves because they accepted themselves. Now, they weren't perfect, and so may have had some issues. But, I never saw them compensate for it with their actions. So, from what I've seen, those folks who are most comfortable with themselves are the least likely to act out to compensate for poor self esteem. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Got Brains?
- Original Message - From: Dan Minettte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: RE: Got Brains? I've been having email problems with the switch to Comcast. I think this will be a workaround. Things have been pretty normal for me, but I haven't tried to use a Comcast address yet. I plan to ride my RR address for a while longer. But I do note that I am noticing some service degradation of the type I was warned of when it was announced Comcast was taking over. HTTP is very slow, data over port 110 is slow, but my P2P is about the same, And Comcast is supposedly upgrading our d/l side from 5Mb/s to 6Mb/s. Go figure! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Seeberger Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:15 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Got Brains? - Original Message - From: jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: Got Brains? Everyone tries to compensate for poor self esteem, the ones who don't are sociopaths.G Some are more obvious about it than others, though. -- Ronn! a lot of people have low self esteem and are not sociopaths; they are the quiet, unassuming people you see everywhere, who may have a lot to say but lack the assertive nature to speak up. you will see their thoughtful insights more, online. there are many high dominant, alpha plus, type a personalities who can often have sociopathic tendencies. judicious jon I think you are misunderstanding what I've said here. What I'm saying is that people who have no doubts are sociopaths. I would tend to differ with this. I've lived with a guy who was a paranoid schitzo, and he had tremendous self esteem issues. I've also been around very spiritual people who knew their own value as a human being in their heart. They didn't have to prove themselves because they accepted themselves. Now, they weren't perfect, and so may have had some issues. But, I never saw them compensate for it with their actions. I've been giving this a good deal of thought due to the feedback I've received and I haven't changed my mind, but I do think that what I've said bears some clarification if one is to understand what I have stated so nebulously. I started to respond with a detailed response a few days ago, but what I wrote then was so scattered and unclear (even for me) that I deleted it in favor of waiting 'til some moment of clarity appeared. When I said no doubts, it has to be taken as an absolute statement. I don't mean few doubts, I'm thinking zero doubts. (Or close enough to zero to make the point) And when I said sociopaths, that should be taken to include the full gamut of sociopathic behaviors, but more generally (for the purpose of this discussion) the a-harmonic behaviors one sees exhibited on a daily basis. (lies, cheating, manipulation...) Mentally and emotionally healthy people do not live without doubt. Healthy people remain aware of their limitations and that it is not possible know everything or immediately understand every situation as it is encountered. Most of us are also aware that we are given false information from time to time in our lives and will experience shame/embaressment when we recall passing on that false info to others. This is perfectly normal and healthy people learn to live with a reasonable and appropriate amount of doubt, and learn to react with a healthy amount of skepticism when encountering information that is contrary to what one has learned or experienced. It is unhealthy to live in denial and just as unhealthy to be so doubtful one cannot choose or act. It is a balancing act and healthy people have a good sense of balance in that regard. So, from what I've seen, those folks who are most comfortable with themselves are the least likely to act out to compensate for poor self esteem. I suppose what I say next is the most interesting thing I will say on this subject. One cannot see another compensating for poor self-esteem in most instances. Sure, we all see the most obvious situations where a person commits some flub or gaffe, or their embarrassment is blatant. But I contend that people are so good at hiding their innermost thoughts that most of the time (almost all of the time) any compensation stays below the radar. It is so completely casual that no one notices. More than that, it is consensual. It is written into our social fabric. I expect that cooperation/competition strategies require that some level of [not absolutely honest and not full disclosure] be ignored in order to maintain social harmony between individuals and groups. Part of human consciousness is modeling and predicting the mind of other individuals. Much of this occurs below the conscious level
Re: Got Brains?
At 10:15 PM Sunday 7/22/2007, Robert Seeberger wrote: What I'm saying is that people who have no doubts are sociopaths. Are you *absolutely sure* about that? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:15 PM Sunday 7/22/2007, Robert Seeberger wrote: What I'm saying is that people who have no doubts are sociopaths. Are you *absolutely sure* about that? ::headdesk:: Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 11:40 AM Monday 7/23/2007, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:15 PM Sunday 7/22/2007, Robert Seeberger wrote: What I'm saying is that people who have no doubts are sociopaths. Are you *absolutely sure* about that? ::headdesk:: Julia :D It would appear that Rob has not yet checked his e-mail today . . . Don't Do That Too Hard If The Computer Is Sitting On The Desk Or You Might Cause A Head Crash Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:29 AM Subject: Re: Got Brains? At 10:15 PM Sunday 7/22/2007, Robert Seeberger wrote: What I'm saying is that people who have no doubts are sociopaths. Are you *absolutely sure* about that? Depends.. How much money you got? G xponent Available For Birthdays And Bar-Mitzvahs Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Got Brains?
- Original Message - From: jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: Got Brains? the whole brain was reduced... more than a 50% to 75%... the brain is very plastic and can adapt to some brain damage.. If it happens very slowly, different parts of the brain take up functions normally done by the part pushed to the side... (snip, snip.~) Half My IQ And Makes Twice As Much Money Maru rob Money isn't everything, Rob, 150 is genius I.Q. If this guy had use of the 50- 75% he lost, he could be in the 200 range. Heh! It was joke employing irony and playing on a stereotype. Nothing to read into it here, move along folksG Not no genyus, Jonny, but I luck gude!~) I don't think anyone has yet established a link between either brain size, or percent utilization and intelligence . . . And Don't Ask Me About The Mensa Members I Have Met Maru -- Ronn! :) are members of mensa trying to compensate for poor self esteem, or the opposite, or are they simply seeking to network with other geniuses? i believe brain capacity is related to ratio to body size and convolutions in the cerebral cortex? hominid maru jonsan Everyone tries to compensate for poor self esteem, the ones who don't are sociopaths.G xponent MonkeyBrains Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 02:04 PM Sunday 7/22/2007, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: Got Brains? the whole brain was reduced... more than a 50% to 75%... the brain is very plastic and can adapt to some brain damage.. If it happens very slowly, different parts of the brain take up functions normally done by the part pushed to the side... (snip, snip.~) Half My IQ And Makes Twice As Much Money Maru rob Money isn't everything, Rob, 150 is genius I.Q. If this guy had use of the 50- 75% he lost, he could be in the 200 range. Heh! It was joke employing irony and playing on a stereotype. Nothing to read into it here, move along folksG Not no genyus, Jonny, but I luck gude!~) I don't think anyone has yet established a link between either brain size, or percent utilization and intelligence . . . And Don't Ask Me About The Mensa Members I Have Met Maru -- Ronn! :) are members of mensa trying to compensate for poor self esteem, or the opposite, or are they simply seeking to network with other geniuses? i believe brain capacity is related to ratio to body size and convolutions in the cerebral cortex? hominid maru jonsan Everyone tries to compensate for poor self esteem, the ones who don't are sociopaths.G Some are more obvious about it than others, though. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Got Brains?
- Original Message - From: jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: Got Brains? Everyone tries to compensate for poor self esteem, the ones who don't are sociopaths.G Some are more obvious about it than others, though. -- Ronn! a lot of people have low self esteem and are not sociopaths; they are the quiet, unassuming people you see everywhere, who may have a lot to say but lack the assertive nature to speak up. you will see their thoughtful insights more, online. there are many high dominant, alpha plus, type a personalities who can often have sociopathic tendencies. judicious jon I think you are misunderstanding what I've said here. What I'm saying is that people who have no doubts are sociopaths. xponent Tnenopt Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Got Brains?
- Original Message - From: jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: Got Brains? Everyone tries to compensate for poor self esteem, the ones who don't are sociopaths.G Some are more obvious about it than others, though. -- Ronn! a lot of people have low self esteem and are not sociopaths; they are the quiet, unassuming people you see everywhere, who may have a lot to say but lack the assertive nature to speak up. you will see their thoughtful insights more, online. there are many high dominant, alpha plus, type a personalities who can often have sociopathic tendencies. judicious jon I think you are misunderstanding what I've said here. What I'm saying is that people who have no doubts are sociopaths. xponent Tnenopt Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Got Brains?
At 04:19 PM Saturday 7/21/2007, jon louis mann wrote: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn12301feedId=online-news_rss20 A man with an unusually tiny brain a huge fluid-filled chamber called a ventricle took up most of the room in his skull, leaving little more than a thin sheet of actual brain tissue more than a 50% to 75% reduction. Intelligence tests showed the man had an IQ of 75. The whole brain was reduced - frontal, parietal, temporal and occipital lobes - on both left and right sides. These regions control motion, sensibility, language, vision, audition, and emotional and cognitive functions, the brain is very plastic and can adapt to some brain damage occurring in the pre- and postnatal period when treated appropriately, he says. If something happens very slowly over quite some time, maybe over decades, the different parts of the brain take up functions that would normally be done by the part that is pushed to the side, Half My IQ And Makes Twice As Much Money Maru rob Money isn't everything, Rob, 150 is genius I.Q. If this guy had use of the 50- 75% he lost, he could be in the 200 range. I don't think anyone has yet established a link between either brain size or percent utilization and intelligence . . . And Don't Ask Me About The Mensa Members I Have Met Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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He was in the civil service with an IQ of 75? Pat, biting tongue on bureaucrat jokes. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ The community stagnates without the impulse of the individual.The impulse dies away without the sympathy of the community.--William James From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Got Brains? Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:35:22 -0500 At 04:19 PM Saturday 7/21/2007, jon louis mann wrote: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn12301feedId=online-news_rss20 A man with an unusually tiny brain a huge fluid-filled chamber called a ventricle took up most of the room in his skull, leaving little more than a thin sheet of actual brain tissue more than a 50% to 75% reduction. Intelligence tests showed the man had an IQ of 75. The whole brain was reduced - frontal, parietal, temporal and occipital lobes - on both left and right sides. These regions control motion, sensibility, language, vision, audition, and emotional and cognitive functions, the brain is very plastic and can adapt to some brain damage occurring in the pre- and postnatal period when treated appropriately, he says. If something happens very slowly over quite some time, maybe over decades, the different parts of the brain take up functions that would normally be done by the part that is pushed to the side, Half My IQ And Makes Twice As Much Money Maru rob Money isn't everything, Rob, 150 is genius I.Q. If this guy had use of the 50- 75% he lost, he could be in the 200 range. I don't think anyone has yet established a link between either brain size or percent utilization and intelligence . . . And Don't Ask Me About The Mensa Members I Have Met Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 08:00 PM Saturday 7/21/2007, PAT MATHEWS wrote: He was in the civil service with an IQ of 75? Pat, biting tongue on bureaucrat jokes. I beat you to that one. Nothing To Brag About Though Because It Was So Obvious Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 05:59 PM Saturday 7/21/2007, jon louis mann wrote: are members of mensa trying to compensate for poor self esteem, or the opposite, or are they simply seeking to network with other geniuses? I suspect that the answer is as varied as the individual. I went hoping for the latter reason, and was left with the impression that many were there for the first reason. It is quite possible that my observations were skewed or that my experience was not typical. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 09:23 PM Friday 7/20/2007, Robert Seeberger wrote: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn12301feedId=online-news_rss20 A man with an unusually tiny brain manages to live an entirely normal life despite his condition, which was caused by a fluid build-up in his skull. Scans of the 44-year-old man's brain showed that a huge fluid-filled chamber called a ventricle took up most of the room in his skull, leaving little more than a thin sheet of actual brain tissue (see image, right). It is hard for me [to say] exactly the percentage of reduction of the brain, since we did not use software to measure its volume. But visually, it is more than a 50% to 75% reduction, says Lionel Feuillet, a neurologist at the Mediterranean University in Marseille, France. Feuillet and his colleagues describe the case of this patient in The Lancet. He is a married father of two children, and works as a civil servant. Stop There And The Punch Line Writes Itself Maru. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
