Re: The Multiverse Database
In a message dated 10/15/2002 8:24:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 've added four planets from Dr. Brin's Uplift Universe to my web site, the Multiverse Database www.multiverse-db.com I've added Garth, Jijo, Kithrup, and Pila. They are entry #s 91-94. You can also do a search where Universe=Uplift. (There are still a few bugs in the search routine but it works fairly well.) I tried Universe = Piper and didn't get anything. Space Viking alone mentioned 103 planets by name. That'd be a lot of work. Though most planets are without any descriptions at all. Zarathustra would be the easiest choice for having just one of his planets in your database. I wish I could find my old notebook... William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Multiverse Database
Joe Hale wrote: I've added four planets from Dr. Brin's Uplift Universe to my web site, the Multiverse Database www.multiverse-db.com I've added Garth, The star is Gimelhai, not Gimlhai. Jijo, The star is not Izmunuti. Izmunuti is a neighbouring Red Giant. The new GURPs Uplift will name Jijo's star. Also, Jijo's TL should be quite low, because they abandoned sophisticated technology. Something like Earth's XIX century, with steamboats and lots of mechanical, pre-eletronical, devices. Kithrup, The TL of Kithrup is ambiguous. You have to consider the Kiqui (that are pre-sentient) or the Karrank% (of whom we have few information). and Pila. Details about Pila are in Sundiver, not Startide Rising. I would like to get some data on planet position (1st, 2d, 3d from the star etc). I think this information is not available. I also need some population data for these planets. H... The problem is, we don't have them. Maybe we can estimate, but how accurate do you want this estimation? An error of 1 magnitude is acceptable? :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Multiverse Database
At 12:44 16-10-2002 -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: I also need some population data for these planets. H... The problem is, we don't have them. Maybe we can estimate, but how accurate do you want this estimation? An error of 1 magnitude is acceptable? :-) Maybe our good Doctor will get that sort of data into the next Uplift trilogy. Hint, hint! :-) Jeroen Two down, one to go van Baardwijk __ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: The Multiverse Database
Thanks for the corrections Alberto. I've made the changes you suggested. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Multiverse Database Joe Hale wrote: I've added four planets from Dr. Brin's Uplift Universe to my web site, the Multiverse Database www.multiverse-db.com I've added Garth, The star is Gimelhai, not Gimlhai. Jijo, The star is not Izmunuti. Izmunuti is a neighbouring Red Giant. The new GURPs Uplift will name Jijo's star. Also, Jijo's TL should be quite low, because they abandoned sophisticated technology. Something like Earth's XIX century, with steamboats and lots of mechanical, pre-eletronical, devices. Kithrup, The TL of Kithrup is ambiguous. You have to consider the Kiqui (that are pre-sentient) or the Karrank% (of whom we have few information). and Pila. Details about Pila are in Sundiver, not Startide Rising. I would like to get some data on planet position (1st, 2d, 3d from the star etc). I think this information is not available. I also need some population data for these planets. H... The problem is, we don't have them. Maybe we can estimate, but how accurate do you want this estimation? An error of 1 magnitude is acceptable? :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: The Multiverse Database
Based on your suggestion, William, I added Zarathustra to the database. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Multiverse Database In a message dated 10/15/2002 8:24:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 've added four planets from Dr. Brin's Uplift Universe to my web site, the Multiverse Database www.multiverse-db.com I've added Garth, Jijo, Kithrup, and Pila. They are entry #s 91-94. You can also do a search where Universe=Uplift. (There are still a few bugs in the search routine but it works fairly well.) I tried Universe = Piper and didn't get anything. Space Viking alone mentioned 103 planets by name. That'd be a lot of work. Though most planets are without any descriptions at all. Zarathustra would be the easiest choice for having just one of his planets in your database. I wish I could find my old notebook... William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Multiverse Database
In a message dated 10/16/2002 6:38:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Based on your suggestion, William, I added Zarathustra to the database. Complete with the five continents? The known timezones between the capitol city and Holloway's camp. The divide, piedmont, and squiggle on Beta. Population at the date of the Fuzzy Trial. Lack of titanium. The low axial tilt needed for the milder climate. The orange sun. Etc. (Why I wish I knew where that notebook form the 80s wound up at.) William Taylor - Fuzzies are the most dangerous creatures ever invented in Science Fiction. They'd destroy Homo Sapiens through kindness. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: The Multiverse Database
I was thinking of modifying an image of Bajor to make Zarathustra. I could split a continent in two to get the requisite five. Yes, it's definitely too bad you lost that notebook. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Multiverse Database In a message dated 10/16/2002 6:38:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Based on your suggestion, William, I added Zarathustra to the database. Complete with the five continents? The known timezones between the capitol city and Holloway's camp. The divide, piedmont, and squiggle on Beta. Population at the date of the Fuzzy Trial. Lack of titanium. The low axial tilt needed for the milder climate. The orange sun. Etc. (Why I wish I knew where that notebook form the 80s wound up at.) William Taylor - Fuzzies are the most dangerous creatures ever invented in Science Fiction. They'd destroy Homo Sapiens through kindness. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Multiverse Database
In a message dated 10/16/2002 7:58:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, it's definitely too bad you lost that notebook. :-) John F. Carr was sent everything. He has it on file. But he has been busy with other Piper writings. Alpha will be the biggest continent, northern hemisphere, then Beta to the right, then Gamma to the right again. I think Epsilon was both the smallest and only in the southern hemisphere. I gave it an axial tilt of 17 degrees, and 65% ocean. Both being arbitrary figures. It would be interesting to design two Pacific type basins for the two moons. But the one rule of working in Piper's universe is that you have to use technology concepts that existed in 1964. So I didn't know if that was legal. I added over fifty names for new planets, with the names taken from the two sources I had figured out that Piper had used. [The 13 volume set on mythology had a plate on Svantovit.] The best one I did, IMHO, was Munchausen. Radiation from the sun was so extreme that the planet looked dead. But after the sun went down both plant and animal life came out of the ground. The plants fed off of the afterglow, the strength of the sun being that intense. So, during the daytime, it was a baron planet. But it was lying. [Insert rimshot here.] Another planet, I forget the name, was based upon all fish having non biodegradable bladders. They would only eventually erode. Most shorelines were clogged for a hundred feet. And there was a huge Sargasso Sea area. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
The Multiverse Database
I'd like to invite everyone who likes science fiction to check out my website: www.multiverse-db.com It's a relational database of planets from the many worlds of science fiction. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone watch Firefly? Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Miller, Jeffrey wrote: snip ymmv, but its nothing more than a show about pretty people being angsty. Throw a cast slightly less attractive into the show with less sexy clothing, cut the oh-so-dangerous lesbian thing (that's there only to attract the panting fan-bois) and you'd have a show that was cancelled after the 2nd season. of course, that's just my opinion. :) scratching head Well, I'm neither lesbian nor of an age to fantasize about 'Spike' or 'Angel,' and I still enjoy the show. Hmmm, I guess I'm too old too apreciate it then. I really don't like the show. As for the main characters why can't they cast normal people. In a lot of those US semi action shows I see anorexic blonds and laddish men hurtling over and through the sets. I mean most series, that at the moment are shown here, are getting to a point where too much girlish and laddish beauty and agillity is getting really very annoying and terribly boring. Although I do like 'charmed' to a certain extend hm do I spot a contradiction somewhere in there? ;o) A well people are free to enjoy anything at their own discretion.:o) Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Multiverse Database
Joe Hale wrote: I'd like to invite everyone who likes science fiction to check out my website: www.multiverse-db.com It's a relational database of planets from the many worlds of science fiction. Great! You've done for space what I've done for time: http://www.geocities.com/albmont/timeline.htm [if the idiots of genocidies allow the visit today] Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l