Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-09 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten

Julia Thompson wrote:

 J. van Baardwijk wrote:
 
  At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
 
  Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal, and I
  have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a row before Dan
  does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it or complain when I
  don't notice.  :)
 
  Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too, you know!   :-)

 I know, it's just a bit much to ask for extra appreciation for *one*
 iteration when three or four of *mine* are ignored.  :)

 I'm hoping his workload drops off some later this month, and then it
 won't be so much of an issue.  (He took his first 2-day weekend since at
 least August just now, to give you an idea of how it's been.)

Seconded.

I really get upset when I've spent a lot of time on certain tasks and it is met with
a shrug, trampled underfoot or worse even... simply being taken for granted. I mean
ironing for one is such a depressing task. You iron it, it gets used and crumpled in
a corner. Infuriating, dismissiv. I find housework so under appreciated. It can take
me all day to get something in order. Doing task after task, chore after chore and at
the end of the day I have nothing obvious to show for it, worse at the end of the
second day you can't even find a clue as to whether something has been done or not.
And at the end of the month you have nothing showing for all your hard labour in your
bankaccount, except all those drafts for the shopping that has been done. Having a
toddler around doesn't really help to improve that feeling. ;o)

That is probably why I still like doing some DIY. That is if I can find the time and
some Tom-free space. At least you can see that something's been done, without it
being turned into dust and rubble within a few hours. (That is if you didn't botch
the job ;o) )
I guess it is just inherent to the job of housewife. On the bright side... I can go
out, spent special time with Tom whenever I like. Or me and Tom can go and visit
friends for a cup a coffee. We can go for a swim  in the middle of the day. I can sit
behind the puter and  oops, look at the time! I really need to start doing
something usefull, right away. :o)

Sonja
Housewife extraordinairy at your service. :o)

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Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-09 Thread Julia Thompson

Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:

 My kitchen is a very static one. That means that every ittybitty little
 item has it's own spot. I get really very annoyed and grumpy when stuff is
 out of place. After a forced rearanging of the kitchen (in order to create
 more space or to fit in a new item) it takes me months to make the mental
 switch. After three years of a big reorganisation I managed to still open
 the wrong cupboard for plates or spices. Jeroen is sensible enough to not
 try and mess with the kitchen order too much when he cooks his Jeroen
 specials I like so much. :o).

Ours was pretty static in the old house, and then one day I realized
that one of the things we were doing was kind of stupid.  So I decided
we'd do it differently in the new house.

Isn't it great when the men cook?  :)  Dan does great spaghetti (the
sauce is *excellent*), grills fairly well, and has, in the past, fixed
batches of taco soup.  (Fixing a big batch of taco soup is something
that either of us can do, provided the soup-maker is given a break from
the toddler.  Fixing a batch of soup with the toddler underfoot would
be, well, interesting, possibly in the Chinese curse sense of the word.)

Oh, and Dan fixes Swedish pancakes sometimes.  He did it 3 or 4 weekends
in September.  He's been doing it a lot more since we moved -- I guess
the new kitchen agrees with him.  (He did a lot of the design of the
kitchen, so that's not surprising, I guess.)

Julia
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RE: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk

At 19:18 06-10-2002 -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote:

 Guys, if our female significant others find out about this, we are
 in dp trouble...

Sometimes I wonder about you, Jeroen.  Your wife is the only SO on here 
that I know of, so aren't you the only one who get screwed by this?  ;)

Not really -- unless the CNN website can only be accessed by Brinellers.   :-)


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Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-07 Thread J. van Baardwijk

At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:

Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal, and I
have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a row before Dan
does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it or complain when I
don't notice.  :)

Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too, you know!   :-)


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Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-07 Thread Jim Sharkey


Julia Thompson wrote:
 J. van Baardwijk wrote:
 
At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
 
Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal,
and I have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a row
before Dan does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it 
or complain when I don't notice.  :)
 
Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too, you
know!   :-)
 
I know, it's just a bit much to ask for extra appreciation for *one*
iteration when three or four of *mine* are ignored.  :)

What you clearly don't understand about men is that we expect a reaction about the 
same as we would normally reserve for a baby taking his first steps when we do 
housework without being asked.  :)

Jim


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Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-07 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb

Jim wrote:

 Julia Thompson wrote:
  J. van Baardwijk wrote:
 
 At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
 
 Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal,
 and I have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a
row
 before Dan does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it
 or complain when I don't notice.  :)
 
 Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too,
you
 know!   :-)
 
 I know, it's just a bit much to ask for extra appreciation for
*one*
 iteration when three or four of *mine* are ignored.  :)

 What you clearly don't understand about men is that we expect a
reaction about the same as we would normally reserve for a baby taking
his first steps when we do housework without being asked.  :)

I used to, but I decided that I'd best shut my mouth and do my share.
Which I do.  In point of fact, I really enjoy the cooking, and
cleaning up afterwards means I get to organize the kitchen *my* way.

Adam C. Lipscomb
Sensitive New Age Guy

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Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-07 Thread Julia Thompson

Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
 
 Jim wrote:
 
  Julia Thompson wrote:
   J. van Baardwijk wrote:
  
  At 09:49 07-10-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
  
  Now, there are times when everything else is *not* being equal,
  and I have to unload and load the dishwasher 3 or 4 times in a
 row
  before Dan does both tasks, and then he'll either crow about it
  or complain when I don't notice.  :)
  
  Hey, us men would appreciate some recognition for our work too,
 you
  know!   :-)
  
  I know, it's just a bit much to ask for extra appreciation for
 *one*
  iteration when three or four of *mine* are ignored.  :)
 
  What you clearly don't understand about men is that we expect a
 reaction about the same as we would normally reserve for a baby taking
 his first steps when we do housework without being asked.  :)
 
 I used to, but I decided that I'd best shut my mouth and do my share.
 Which I do.  In point of fact, I really enjoy the cooking, and
 cleaning up afterwards means I get to organize the kitchen *my* way.

At the very least, when you cook and clean up on a regular basis, you
know where things are.  It's rather annoying to have someone ask for the
3rd time in 2 days where item X is (where item X is the same item in
each case).  :)  We're past that in the settling-in, though.

Julia

still working out kitchen organization with Dan's help
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Re: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-07 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos

On 10/6/02 4:01 PM, J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ATTENTION: This message is for MALE Brinellers only. All FEMALE members
 should close this message IMMEDIATELY!!!

 
 Guys, if our female significant others find out about this, we are in
 dp trouble...   GRIN

On one of our delft tiles it reads:

Ik ben thuis de baas, wat myn vrouw zegt zat gebeuren.*

Matthew if your not Dutch... Maru

*(my spelling may be off, but it's not that great in English either)

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This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-06 Thread J. van Baardwijk

ATTENTION: This message is for MALE Brinellers only. All FEMALE members 
should close this message IMMEDIATELY!!!









Housewife seeking appreciation quits housework.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/10/05/wife.strike.ap/index.html

Guys, if our female significant others find out about this, we are in 
dp trouble...   GRIN


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RE: This Message Is For Male Brinellers Only

2002-10-06 Thread Jim Sharkey


J. van Baardwijk wrote:

 Housewife seeking appreciation quits housework.
 
 http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/10/05/wife.strike.ap/index.html

Good for her!  If she cleans the house while her husband goes fishing, she should do 
something to call him on it.  Normally cutting him off from sex would be the answer, 
but this might be more effective.  :-)
 
Guys, if our female significant others find out about this, we are 
in dp trouble...   

Sometimes I wonder about you, Jeroen.  Your wife is the only SO on here that I know 
of, so aren't you the only one who get screwed by this?  ;)

Jim


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