Re: Turning religion on and off

2007-12-13 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote:

 A drug to cure those afflicted with religion might not be far off!

 Considering that this is about genetic links to *disorders*, quite a few
 people in addition you would have to agree to redefine religion as such
 first.

 I'd wish you luck with that, but it wouldn't be sincere.

 Perhaps they can figure out how to turn off greed.

OTOH, considering the totalitarian approach to genetic disorders, isn't
it more likely that, since the majority of the population is religious,
a drug will be developed that will cure _atheism_?

Alberto Monteiro
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Re: Turning religion on and off

2007-12-13 Thread William T Goodall

On 13 Dec 2007, at 08:49, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote:

 Nick Arnett wrote:

 A drug to cure those afflicted with religion might not be far off!

 Considering that this is about genetic links to *disorders*, quite  
 a few
 people in addition you would have to agree to redefine religion as  
 such
 first.

 I'd wish you luck with that, but it wouldn't be sincere.

 Perhaps they can figure out how to turn off greed.

 OTOH, considering the totalitarian approach to genetic disorders,  
 isn't
 it more likely that, since the majority of the population is  
 religious,
 a drug will be developed that will cure _atheism_?

But they wouldn't be able to agree which religion to afflict the faith- 
free with and it would end up in internecine squabbling.

Divide and conquer Maru

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Re: Turning religion on and off

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:57 AM, William T Goodall wrote:

 On 13 Dec 2007, at 08:49, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote:

 Nick Arnett wrote:

 A drug to cure those afflicted with religion might not be far off!

 Considering that this is about genetic links to *disorders*,  
 quite a few
 people in addition you would have to agree to redefine religion  
 as such
 first.

 I'd wish you luck with that, but it wouldn't be sincere.

 Perhaps they can figure out how to turn off greed.

 OTOH, considering the totalitarian approach to genetic disorders,  
 isn't
 it more likely that, since the majority of the population is  
 religious,
 a drug will be developed that will cure _atheism_?

 But they wouldn't be able to agree which religion to afflict the  
 faith-
 free with and it would end up in internecine squabbling.

Score 3: funny

I would agree, except that the kind that engages in eugenics and the
like rarely have a problem picking their fanaticism: they generally
know _exactly_ what they want you to think.

Dave


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Turning religion on and off

2007-12-13 Thread jon louis mann
OTOH, considering the totalitarian approach to genetic disorders, isn't
it more likely that, since the majority of the population is religious,
a drug will be developed that will cure _atheism_?
Alberto Monteiro
   
  It's called LSD...  The first time I tripped in 1965. i traveled in time and 
space, and evolved from single cell to gawd consciousness.  unfortunately, it 
wore off...
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Turning religion on and off

2007-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/12/round-2-turning-heterosexuality-on-and-off/index.html?ex=1355115600en=38fcd780de0fc997ei=5090partner=rssuserlandemc=rss

DECEMBER 12, 2007,  2:28 PMRound 2: Turning Heterosexuality On and Off
By JOHN TIERNEY

TAGS: BIOETHICS, HOMOSEXUALITY

The post about using a drug to changing the sexual orientation of  
fruit flies — and some day, perhaps, of humans — generated lots of  
indignant reactions and questions about the research. I asked David  
Featherstone, one of the authors of the paper in Nature Neuroscience,  
to respond to Lab readers. Here’s what Dr. Featherstone, a  
neuroscientist at the University of Illinois at Chicago, has to say:

The response to our research has been fascinating, and highlights the  
giant gap between what neuroscientists already know and what the  
public believes. To other neuroscientists, the main shocker from our  
work is that a glial cell amino acid transporter is regulating  
information processing by alteringambient extracellular glutamate.

According to scientific dogma, glial cells play little or no role in  
information processing in the brain, and ‘ambient extracellular  
glutamate’ is generally thought to be an experimental artifact — a  
sign that researchers screwed up their analytical chemistry. The fact  
that the processes we describe happen to regulate sexual behavior is  
really of little importance to most neuroscientists (although we dorky  
scientists are titillated as much as anyone when reading about  
‘genital licking’).

The fact is, ‘gay genes’ have been known to exist for a long time, in  
flies and other animals, including humans. Genetic links to all sorts  
of human traits have been identified.

A widely used, extremely useful database of human traits with a  
genetic basis is Online Mendelian Inheritance in Man (OMIM), which can  
be accessed here. This database has entries for devastating  
neurological disorders, such as schizophrenia and autism, but also  
things like pathological gambling, attention deficit disorder, eye  
color, arm folding preference, and homosexuality. Some of these  
conditions are things we obviously want to ‘cure’. Others are not.  
Regardless, information on all of them is accumulating to the point  
where drug treatment approaches could be designed.


A drug to cure those afflicted with religion might not be far off!

In the water Maru

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Re: Turning religion on and off

2007-12-12 Thread Nick Arnett
On Dec 12, 2007 4:53 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 A drug to cure those afflicted with religion might not be far off!


Considering that this is about genetic links to *disorders*, quite a few
people in addition you would have to agree to redefine religion as such
first.

I'd wish you luck with that, but it wouldn't be sincere.

Perhaps they can figure out how to turn off greed.

Nick

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Re: Turning religion on and off

2007-12-12 Thread William T Goodall

On 13 Dec 2007, at 01:58, Nick Arnett wrote:

 On Dec 12, 2007 4:53 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:




 A drug to cure those afflicted with religion might not be far off!


 Considering that this is about genetic links to *disorders*, quite a  
 few
 people in addition you would have to agree to redefine religion as  
 such
 first.

I don't see why you need to agree to be cured.

Fight the zombie hordes Maru

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Re: Turning religion on and off

2007-12-12 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:53 PM, William T Goodall wrote:

 A drug to cure those afflicted with religion might not be far off!

Yes, because sexual orientation and religion/atheism have so much in  
common, don't they? I mean, anything that seems even slightly outre  
must be some kind of disorder that needs to be cured, according to  
someone -- anyone -- possibly even something as facile and malleable  
as social whim.

Funny how the history of the DSM seems to be so relevant all of a  
sudden.

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Re: Turning religion on and off

2007-12-12 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:53 PM Wednesday 12/12/2007, William T Goodall wrote:


A drug to cure those afflicted with religion might not be far off!

In the water Maru



Usually that is where you are supposed to get it . . .


Dunk 'Em All And Let God Sort It Out Maru


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Turning religion on and off

2007-12-12 Thread jon louis mann
In the water Maru

Usually that is where you are supposed to get it . . .

Dunk 'Em All And Let God Sort It Out Maru
-- Ronn!  :)

or waterboard...
jlm


  

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Re: Turning religion on and off

2007-12-12 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:58 PM Wednesday 12/12/2007, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Dec 12, 2007 4:53 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
  A drug to cure those afflicted with religion might not be far off!


Considering that this is about genetic links to *disorders*, quite a few
people in addition you would have to agree to redefine religion as such
first.

I'd wish you luck with that, but it wouldn't be sincere.

Perhaps they can figure out how to turn off greed.

Nick


If they can take time out from more pressing research:

http://feeds.inventorspot.com/~r/inventorspot/articles/~3/199304203/scientists_create_glowinthedark__9191
http://feeds.inventorspot.com/~r/inventorspot/articles/~3/199304203/scientists_create_glowinthedark__9191


-- Ronn!  :)



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