Re: Well, that thread wandered from where I thought it would (RE: BRin-L - are we average?...)

2004-02-19 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I asked the question to begin with, I didn't
 really think I'd end up posting something like this,
 but what the hell?
snip 
 Seriously though.. I'm genetically male (XY, as far
 as I know) but have struggled with gender identity
 my entire life...sniplet...but after a few
 false starts towards living the life I need to
 live, the past few months I've been slowly
 transitioning towards a more female self-expression
 and life.  At some point in the near future, I'll
 flip the switch and be full-time in a female
 gender role.  
 
 Its a long, painful road to have walked, its going
 to be even longer and more painful in the future,
 but its a voyage I have to walk, because there isn't
 any other way for me.  I've supportive friends and
 lovers around me, and that's makes all the
 difference.

That sounds terribly difficult, especially when I
think of the already-ever-so-mixed-up-turmoil of a
typical adolescence... :-/  Having had two dear
friends who finally acknowledged their homosexuality,
and came out to face great (and frankly near-fatal)
difficulty in their family and social lives, I salute
your survival and success.  And to have found a
supportive community is both blessing and necessity
for the future.  

Debbi

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Well, that thread wandered from where I thought it would (RE: BRin-L - are we average?...)

2004-02-18 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
When I asked the question to begin with, I didn't really think I'd end up posting 
something like this, but what the hell?

  --- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hetero here, (if you want me to put myself on a
   chart,
   I'll guess ~ 95%, since I'm allowing that if I'd
   grown
   up in a radically different society I might not be
   100%), single yet looking, 2 children-in-fur, 3
   surrogate children-on-the-hoof...
 
 I didn't really think anyone was keeping a chart, but... me, I'm
 poly, transgendered, sapiosexual, with no children - fit THAT into
 your categories, Debbi ^_^
 
 Robert:
 Okay.what exactly do you mean by transgendered?

Transgendered - a person in some state of flux between the two gender poles, but 
generally isn't upset about their plumbing

 I ask because it is implying (to me at least) something a bit
 different than what I'm guessing you actually mean.

Well, I'm not lopping anything off, if that's what you're asking.. ^_^

*deep breath*

Seriously though.. I'm genetically male (XY, as far as I know) but have struggled with 
gender identity my entire life.  I can ramble on and on about the path of internal 
tides that have push/pulled me to where I am today (and am happy to, if anyone is 
really interested in the topic) but after a few false starts towards living the life 
I need to live, the past few months I've been slowly transitioning towards a more 
female self-expression and life.  At some point in the near future, I'll flip the 
switch and be full-time in a female gender role.  

Its a long, painful road to have walked, its going to be even longer and more painful 
in the future, but its a voyage I have to walk, because there isn't any other way for 
me.  I've supportive friends and lovers around me, and that's makes all the difference.

(If you have any questions, comments, concerns, whatever, just ask and I'll be happy 
to answer as best I can. I actively like talking about this stuff, if only because I 
get to talk about myself ^_^)

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Re: Well, that thread wandered from where I thought it would (RE: BRin-L -are we average?...)

2004-02-18 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:03 AM
Subject: Well, that thread wandered from where I thought it would (RE:
BRin-L -are we average?...)


When I asked the question to begin with, I didn't really think I'd end
up posting something like this, but what the hell?

  --- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hetero here, (if you want me to put myself on a
   chart,
   I'll guess ~ 95%, since I'm allowing that if I'd
   grown
   up in a radically different society I might not be
   100%), single yet looking, 2 children-in-fur, 3
   surrogate children-on-the-hoof...

 I didn't really think anyone was keeping a chart, but... me, I'm
 poly, transgendered, sapiosexual, with no children - fit THAT
into
 your categories, Debbi ^_^

 Robert:
 Okay.what exactly do you mean by transgendered?

Transgendered - a person in some state of flux between the two gender
poles, but generally isn't upset about their plumbing

 I ask because it is implying (to me at least) something a bit
 different than what I'm guessing you actually mean.

Well, I'm not lopping anything off, if that's what you're asking.. ^_^

*deep breath*

Seriously though.. I'm genetically male (XY, as far as I know) but
have struggled with gender identity my entire life.  I can ramble on
and on about the path of internal tides that have push/pulled me to
where I am today (and am happy to, if anyone is really interested in
the topic) but after a few false starts towards living the life I
need to live, the past few months I've been slowly transitioning
towards a more female self-expression and life.  At some point in the
near future, I'll flip the switch and be full-time in a female
gender role.

Its a long, painful road to have walked, its going to be even longer
and more painful in the future, but its a voyage I have to walk,
because there isn't any other way for me.  I've supportive friends and
lovers around me, and that's makes all the difference.

(If you have any questions, comments, concerns, whatever, just ask and
I'll be happy to answer as best I can. I actively like talking about
this stuff, if only because I get to talk about myself ^_^)

-

GSV Wasn't Exactly How I Was Going To Tell You All, But I Figured What
The Hell?
***
For what its worth, I salute you for your openess and wish you much
luck and joy on your journey.

xponent
Everyone Maru
rob


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