Re: When Atheists Attack (another in our endless series of cut-n-paste screeds)
On 4 Nov 2008 at 8:39, Julia Thompson wrote: There's a huge difference between atheists, even militant ones, and psychos who go around attacking other people on the basis of what religion the other people subscribe to. Sorry Julia, but bullshit. It's precisely the same - attacking someone because they don't agree with your views. If religion, lack of religion, politics, creed, colour or whatever is used by the criminal as their excuse is quite, afaik, irrelevant. AndrewC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: When Atheists Attack (another in our endless series of cut-n-paste screeds)
On Nov 5, 2008, at 2:49 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: There's a huge difference between atheists, even militant ones, and psychos who go around attacking other people on the basis of what religion the other people subscribe to. Sorry Julia, but bullshit. It's precisely the same - attacking someone because they don't agree with your views. If religion, lack of religion, politics, creed, colour or whatever is used by the criminal as their excuse is quite, afaik, irrelevant. AndrewC And the religion itself (or, in the case of atheism, the lack of it) isn't to blame for the violence of unstable individuals using the religion (or lack thereof) as an excuse or rationalization for that violence. It's the emotional/psychological instability and intent to act violently toward others that are wrong, not the religion (or lack thereof) that was used by the individual to justify the violence. (Inasmuch as some of the more extreme sects in this country do sometimes come close to the line of inciting violence, whether or not they cross it, and take advantage to some extent of the fact that the more unstable individuals in their margins may take certain carefully crafted messages to heart and run with them, providing both enthusiastic moral enforcers and plausible deniability for their actions, while at the same time capitalizing on incidents like this one to support their own claims that they are actually the ones being persecuted..) I don't plan on any shooting taking place during this job. Well, what you plan and what takes place ain't ever exactly been similar... -- Serenity ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: When Atheists Attack (another in our endless series of cut-n-paste screeds)
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Dave Land wrote: Man threatens two Christians, may lose an eye (http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_10464829) COLORADO SPRINGS — A man who came to the home of two women whom he had threatened to decapitate with a knife received a blow to the head that could cost him an eye, according to Colorado Springs police. Russell Bowman, who claims to be an atheist, threatened the women because they are Christian on Sept. 8. On Friday, he arrived at their apartment and stood in a hallway, according to a police report. Another resident of the apartment retrieved a shotgun and approached Bowman, who was by then walking away. The resident ordered Bowman to put the knife down, according to the report. Bowman refused and approached the resident, who hit him with the butt of the shotgun, injuring his eye. Bowman was treated at Memorial Hospital where it was determined the injury to the eye was so severe, the eye would need to be surgically removed, the report said. There's a huge difference between atheists, even militant ones, and psychos who go around attacking other people on the basis of what religion the other people subscribe to. And psychos who attack other people for whatever reason are asking for whatever the intended victims dish out in self-defense. (FWIW, this is not the first time I've heard of someone losing an eye due to an injury bestowed by a woman he was trying to harm. In that case, the intent was rape of someone he thought would be an easy target. She turned out not to be.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
When Atheists Attack (another in our endless series of cut-n-paste screeds)
Man threatens two Christians, may lose an eye (http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_10464829) COLORADO SPRINGS — A man who came to the home of two women whom he had threatened to decapitate with a knife received a blow to the head that could cost him an eye, according to Colorado Springs police. Russell Bowman, who claims to be an atheist, threatened the women because they are Christian on Sept. 8. On Friday, he arrived at their apartment and stood in a hallway, according to a police report. Another resident of the apartment retrieved a shotgun and approached Bowman, who was by then walking away. The resident ordered Bowman to put the knife down, according to the report. Bowman refused and approached the resident, who hit him with the butt of the shotgun, injuring his eye. Bowman was treated at Memorial Hospital where it was determined the injury to the eye was so severe, the eye would need to be surgically removed, the report said. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
