Re: [BRLTTY] WG: Handytech displays question

2017-06-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech GmbH, on mar. 06 juin 2017 09:08:31 +0200, wrote:
> -  Use HTCom, which is available for Windows.

That reminds me... There used to be a htcom version for Linux developped
by Halim Sahin, does it not exist any more?

Samuel
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Re: [BRLTTY] WG: Handytech displays question

2017-06-06 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech GmbH on 2017/06/06 at 09:33 
+0200]

>yes, Direct Transfer emulates keyboard events and can actually use a number
>of different tables. The Braille display's internal language setting can be
>modified, and this implicitly changes what Braille table will be used. This
>is based on the assumption that users will match their internal Braille
>table as closely as possible to that used by their screen readers.
>So unfortunately I don't see an easy way to make this automatic, but I'll
>give it some thought.

Does the protocol allow a driver to request the exact table from the device?

Does the protocol have a way for the driver to send the host's table to the 
device?

If there's no way to automate it then, if you (HT) don't mind, we could simply 
deliver a copy of your tables along with brltty so that the user can manually 
select the right one.

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Re: [BRLTTY] WG: Handytech displays question

2017-06-06 Thread Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech GmbH
Hello,
yes, Direct Transfer emulates keyboard events and can actually use a number
of different tables. The Braille display's internal language setting can be
modified, and this implicitly changes what Braille table will be used. This
is based on the assumption that users will match their internal Braille
table as closely as possible to that used by their screen readers.
So unfortunately I don't see an easy way to make this automatic, but I'll
give it some thought.
Regarding the file transfer protocol I'll discuss this internally and let
you know. Personally I'm excited about the idea of an up-to-date Linux
implementation of this!
Kind regards,
Felix


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-boun...@brltty.com] Im Auftrag von Dave Mielke
Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juni 2017 09:22
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] WG: Handytech displays question

[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech GmbH on 2017/06/06 at 09:08
+0200]

>Use HTCom, which is available for Windows.

Since this seems to be the only option that'd work for all HT models,
perhaps we should implement a Linux version of it. Would you be able to send
me (directly, off-lis) the protocol details for doing a file transfer that
way?

>Finally, with Active Braille or Active Star, you can use the Direct
Transfer feature to transfer textual data from the Braille display to a
connected device. To do so, select some text in the internal editor, then
press chord+157 (capital E). This will transfer the text as if it had been
typed on a connected keyboard, so please make sure the other device is ready
to take text at that point.

Does this method send key press/release events? If so, a problem would arise
if the device's internal translation table differs in any way from the
current brltty text table being used. We could deal with this if you could
send me that internal translation table so that we could also include it as
a brltty-provided text table.

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Re: [BRLTTY] WG: Handytech displays question

2017-06-06 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech GmbH on 2017/06/06 at 09:08 
+0200]

>Use HTCom, which is available for Windows.

Since this seems to be the only option that'd work for all HT models, perhaps 
we should implement a Linux version of it. Would you be able to send me 
(directly, off-lis) the protocol details for doing a file transfer that way?

>Finally, with Active Braille or Active Star, you can use the Direct Transfer 
>feature to transfer textual data from the Braille display to a connected 
>device. To do so, select some text in the internal editor, then press 
>chord+157 (capital E). This will transfer the text as if it had been typed on 
>a connected keyboard, so please make sure the other device is ready to take 
>text at that point.

Does this method send key press/release events? If so, a problem would arise if 
the device's internal translation table differs in any way from the current 
brltty text table being used. We could deal with this if you could send me that 
internal translation table so that we could also include it as a 
brltty-provided text table.

-- 
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Phone: 1-613-726-0014 | Ottawa, Ontario   | http://Mielke.cc/bible/
EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Canada  K2A 1H7   | The Bible is the very Word of God.
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