Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Hello,
the problem occurred in both. I'm trying to find out if Microsoft may have
patched the version of BRLTTY that's downloaded automatically when they
install Braille support.
I'll also find out if it's just the machine I'm testing on that causes the
issue.
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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-boun...@brltty.com] Im Auftrag von Dave Mielke
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. April 2017 15:52
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH on 2017/04/06
at 14:01 +0200]

>short version: it works for me!
>We'll find out what they're doing and let you know.

Which version doesn't work for you? The one I recently built for you to test
with? What about our official 5.4 release?

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Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Hello Mario,
currently installing that exact version from Microsoft as we speak, and then 
we'll test with AB4 and EBR.
If this works for us as well then we know that your driver is working on 
Windows under the right conditions, and that MS figured out those conditions. 
This is great news! Thanks for sharing!
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Von: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-boun...@brltty.com] Im Auftrag von Mario Lang
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. April 2017 11:30
An: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.'
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

Felix Gr tzmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH  
writes:

> I just tested Easy Braille (ID 0x44) with the following result:
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: testing device: vendor=1FE4 product=0044
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setup packet: Typ:80 Req:06 Val:0300 
> Idx: Len:00FF
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: control input: 04 03 09 04
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: USB language: 409
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setup packet: Typ:80 Req:06 Val:0301 
> Idx:0409 Len:00FF
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: control input: 36 03 48 00 61 00 6E 00 64 
> 00 79 00 20 00 54 00 65 00 63 00 68 00 20 00 45 00 6C 00 65 00 6B 00 
> 74 00 72 00 6F 00 6E 00 69 00 6B 00 20 00 47 00 6D 00 62 00 48 00
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: Manufacturer Name: Handy Tech Elektronik 
> GmbH
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setup packet: Typ:80 Req:06 Val:0302 
> Idx:0409 Len:00FF
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: control input: 1A 03 45 00 61 00 73 00 79 
> 00 20 00 42 00 72 00 61 00 69 00 6C 00 6C 00 65 00
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: Product Description: Easy Braille
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setting configuration: 1
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setup packet: Typ:80 Req:06 Val:0200 
> Idx: Len:00FF
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: control input: 09 02 29 00 01 01 00 80 32 
> 09 04 00 00 02 03 00 00 00 09 21 10 01 00 01 22 46 20 07 05 81 03 3C 
> 00 0A 07 05 02 03 3C 00 0A
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: claiming interface: 0
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 program exit event added: 
> sorted-usb-serial-adapters
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: setup packet: Typ:81 Req:06 Val:2200 
> Idx: Len:0720
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: control input: 06 A0 FF 09 01 A1 01 09 01 
> 15 00 25 FF 75 08 95 3C 81 00 09 02 15 00 25 FF 75 08 95 3C 91 00 C0
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 HID report not found: 01
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: releasing interface: 0
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 braille driver initialization failed: ht -> USB:
>
> So this failed but for seemingly different reasons.
> Hope this helps, and if there's any other way I can assist, please let me 
> know.

I am confused, esp. since I just learnt that I know someone who is successfully 
running an AB4 with BRLTTY and Narrator (one of your resellers, actually, I 
guess you know whom I'm talking about).

So while the error above is another riddle, I too now think that you are 
testing with a device which is different from what we originally had to 
implement support for.  Or your libusb is corrupting packets.  Or
something similarily strange.   To repeat, I know an AB4 user who is
successfully using it on Windows with the BRLTTY version that is being offered 
by Microsoft for download.  So, back to the drawing table:
It would be very nice to know if your AB4 works on Linux.

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Re: [BRLTTY] Testing the NVDA fix and the MS libusb update.

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Hello,
seems like it is missing some privileges. Would running it as admin remedy
the situation? If so, others will know what to fix.
Kind regards,
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Von: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-boun...@brltty.com] Im Auftrag von Chevelle
Gesendet: Montag, 10. April 2017 01:54
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.; Dave Mielke
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Testing the NVDA fix and the MS libusb update.

I can get it to work by manually starting it, and then starting NVDA.

I think there is a problem with the install.bat, I get this:

BRLTTY 5.4 rev BRLTTY-5.4-233-g7afcc55eM [http://brltty.com/]
brltty.exe: OpenSCManager error 5: Access is denied.
The service name is invalid.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2185.

It is interesting that install.bat contains the line

"%~dp0bin\brltty" -I

I'm not sure that is valid syntax for Windows?



On 4/9/2017 2:54 PM, Dave Mielke wrote:
> Both the NVDA fix and the MS update to libusb can be tested via the
> brltty-win-5.4-233 files that are now available on brltty's download page.
>
> Please test soon as 5.5 will most likely be released in a little over 
> a week from now.
>

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Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Mario you might be right!
This has suddenly become a relevant platform as we'd like to be supported in 
Narrator, as it's a part of the OS.
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher


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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. April 2017 14:06
An: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.'
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

Felix Gr tzmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH  
writes:

> yes, this is an actual physical Active Braille it's talking to, with 
> standard firmware.

I might be lying, but I believe Felix is the first person to test AB/AS models 
on Windows.  At least I never did, and I don't remember any AB/AS uwsers on 
Windows.  So this might as well be a platform specific problem.

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Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Hello,
yes, this is an actual physical Active Braille it's talking to, with
standard firmware.
All Active Braille and Active Star and Actilino devices have this USB
architecture and are using the same endpoints. If you need any specifics,
feel free to let me know and I'll dive into our firmware code to dig them
up.
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher


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Von: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-boun...@brltty.com] Im Auftrag von Dave Mielke
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. April 2017 10:38
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Handy Tech Elektronik GmbH on
2017/04/05 at 09:21 +0200]

>just to be sure: after installing, what would I need to do to make 
>BRLTTY Braille within a console window that I launch?

It should just work. Sébastien is correct that you need the Windows screen
driver, but that's the default on Windows.

>Here is a log excerpt created from running as debug. Seems something 
>went wrong.

Is it correct that you're using an Active Braille?

The problem is that it's looking for USB output endpoint 1 and not finding
it. 
Do you have Active Braille models that use a different USB output endpoint?

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Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

I don't use Linux at all so it might take me a while to get to a point where
I'd be of some actual use rather than ask a lot of questions, so I'm
reluctant to go down that road. A sighted colleague of mine is a Linuxer
though and might assist me if you could please point me to a distribution
you would recommend, preferrably one already containing BRLTTY.
Don't know however if we got the resources right now. On the Windows side, I
can do further testing immediately.
Kind regards,
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. April 2017 13:45
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH on 2017/04/05
at 13:09 +0200]

>yes, this is an actual physical Active Braille it's talking to, with 
>standard firmware.
>All Active Braille and Active Star and Actilino devices have this USB 
>architecture and are using the same endpoints. If you need any 
>specifics, feel free to let me know and I'll dive into our firmware 
>code to dig them up.

Do you happen to have access to a Linux system where we can probably debug
this issue a bit better? Maybe there isn't even a problem on Linux. That'd
be good to know, too.

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Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was relevant all along for many users of
NVDA in combination with lots of Braille displays for which no native NVDA
drivers existed, so BRLTTY has its firm place on Windows, just not yet with
those two devices.
The effort of making it work on Windows was never wasted. And now it's
become relevant for AS4/AB4.
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Von: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-boun...@brltty.com] Im Auftrag von Dave Mielke
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. April 2017 15:55
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH on 2017/04/05
at 14:18 +0200]

>This has suddenly become a relevant platform as we'd like to be 
>supported in Narrator, as it's a part of the OS.

:-( I wish it'd been a relevant platform all along! Oh well ... better later
than never.

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Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Hello again,
I'll see what we can do. I think tomorrow we may get around to doing what
you suggested and then I'll send you the file asap.
Sorry again for the comment which was so easily misconstrued as demoralizing
when it actually referred to a very specific nuance of what we discussed.
Kind regards,
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. April 2017 16:02
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH on 2017/04/05
at 13:55 +0200]

>I don't use Linux at all so it might take me a while to get to a point 
>where I'd be of some actual use rather than ask a lot of questions, so 
>I'm reluctant to go down that road.

The thing is that I don't know Windows well enough to guide you as to what
to look at on the system. In this case, I'd like to verify the USB
descriptors on the AB that you're using. On Linux that's as simple as
looking at a text-based kernel-provided pseudo file. I've no idea if Windows
has a similar capability.

>A sighted colleague of mine is a Linuxer though and might assist me if 
>you could please point me to a distribution you would recommend, 
>preferrably one already containing BRLTTY.

In this case, any distribution would do and brltty doesn't even need to be
on the system. What I'd like is for the AB to be connected to the system,
and, after a couple of seconds to let USB enumeration settle down, I'd like
to see a copy of the file /sys/kernel/debug/usb/devices. Could this be
easily done?

Anotehr alternative could be for me to build another version of brltty for
Windows which would log a complete hex dump of the USB descriptors.

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Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Hello again,
short version: it works for me!
We'll find out what they're doing and let you know.
Kind regards,
Felix

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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-boun...@brltty.com] Im Auftrag von Mario Lang
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. April 2017 11:30
An: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.'
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Testing on Windows

Felix Gr tzmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH  
writes:

> I just tested Easy Braille (ID 0x44) with the following result:
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: testing device: vendor=1FE4 product=0044
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setup packet: Typ:80 Req:06 Val:0300 
> Idx: Len:00FF
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: control input: 04 03 09 04
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: USB language: 409
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setup packet: Typ:80 Req:06 Val:0301 
> Idx:0409 Len:00FF
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: control input: 36 03 48 00 61 00 6E 00 64 
> 00 79 00 20 00 54 00 65 00 63 00 68 00 20 00 45 00 6C 00 65 00 6B 00 
> 74 00 72 00 6F 00 6E 00 69 00 6B 00 20 00 47 00 6D 00 62 00 48 00
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: Manufacturer Name: Handy Tech Elektronik 
> GmbH
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setup packet: Typ:80 Req:06 Val:0302 
> Idx:0409 Len:00FF
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: control input: 1A 03 45 00 61 00 73 00 79 
> 00 20 00 42 00 72 00 61 00 69 00 6C 00 6C 00 65 00
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: Product Description: Easy Braille
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setting configuration: 1
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.937 USB: setup packet: Typ:80 Req:06 Val:0200 
> Idx: Len:00FF
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: control input: 09 02 29 00 01 01 00 80 32 
> 09 04 00 00 02 03 00 00 00 09 21 10 01 00 01 22 46 20 07 05 81 03 3C 
> 00 0A 07 05 02 03 3C 00 0A
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: claiming interface: 0
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 program exit event added: 
> sorted-usb-serial-adapters
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: setup packet: Typ:81 Req:06 Val:2200 
> Idx: Len:0720
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: control input: 06 A0 FF 09 01 A1 01 09 01 
> 15 00 25 FF 75 08 95 3C 81 00 09 02 15 00 25 FF 75 08 95 3C 91 00 C0
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 HID report not found: 01
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 USB: releasing interface: 0
> 2017-04-06@10:17:55.947 braille driver initialization failed: ht -> USB:
>
> So this failed but for seemingly different reasons.
> Hope this helps, and if there's any other way I can assist, please let me 
> know.

I am confused, esp. since I just learnt that I know someone who is successfully 
running an AB4 with BRLTTY and Narrator (one of your resellers, actually, I 
guess you know whom I'm talking about).

So while the error above is another riddle, I too now think that you are 
testing with a device which is different from what we originally had to 
implement support for.  Or your libusb is corrupting packets.  Or
something similarily strange.   To repeat, I know an AB4 user who is
successfully using it on Windows with the BRLTTY version that is being offered 
by Microsoft for download.  So, back to the drawing table:
It would be very nice to know if your AB4 works on Linux.

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Re: [BRLTTY] Introducing myself, and a question regarding BRLTTY for Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Hello,
it's on 64 bit Win 7 and 10. Don't know about 32.
Kind regards,
Felix


Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Best regards

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Softwareentwickler

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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-boun...@brltty.com] Im Auftrag von Dave Mielke
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Mai 2017 12:02
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Introducing myself, and a question regarding BRLTTY
for Windows

[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH on 2017/05/03
at 11:33 +0200]

Hi:

>now here is the weird part. I can use it with Narrator but not when 
>installing it manually.
>It's frustrating because I'd love to test outside the confines of that 
>one implementation context.

Are you still unable to use it when manually installing 5.5? If so: Is it
with libusb, libusb-1.0, or both? Is it on a 32-bit system, a 64-bit system,
or both?

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Re: [BRLTTY] Introducing myself, and a question regarding BRLTTY for Windows

[Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH]

Forgot to mention: Both versions.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Best regards

Felix Grützmacher
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Handy Tech Elektronik GmbH
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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-boun...@brltty.com] Im Auftrag von Dave Mielke
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Mai 2017 12:02
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] Introducing myself, and a question regarding BRLTTY
for Windows

[quoted lines by Felix Grützmacher - Help Tech Elektronik GmbH on 2017/05/03
at 11:33 +0200]

Hi:

>now here is the weird part. I can use it with Narrator but not when 
>installing it manually.
>It's frustrating because I'd love to test outside the confines of that 
>one implementation context.

Are you still unable to use it when manually installing 5.5? If so: Is it
with libusb, libusb-1.0, or both? Is it on a 32-bit system, a 64-bit system,
or both?

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Phone: 1-613-726-0014 | Ottawa, Ontario   | http://Mielke.cc/bible/
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