Re: Replacing addresses

2013-11-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Chet Ramey wrote:
> Chris Down wrote:
> > Peter Cordes wrote:
> >> Oh, also, the online bug-bash archive has a bad habbit of replacing
> >> code with address@hidden.  There was a whole thread about setting
> >> PS1=whatever that is now a complete mystery to non-subscribers!
> > 
> > Yes, let's please stop this useless obfuscation. If you *must*
> > obfuscate, then it should at least be retrievable somehow that doesn't
> > require clicking through tons of stuff. Besides, the list is archived in
> > other places that don't do this, so it doesn't really help anyone.
> 
> I think this is a global setting

Yes.  It is a global setting.  And directly due to complaints from
people when it wasn't used.  People complain if it isn't there.
People complain if it is there.

> and probably does more good than the annoyance it causes.

I don't think it can do much good.  The idea is to hide your email
address so that spammers don't know it and can't find it.  And yet
they use it for sending email.  Hiding email addresses simply does not
work.  The genie of information is easier to escape from the lamp than
to force back into it.

Bob

P.S. I looked over at the gmane.org archive to see how they handled
things and there even my quoted '@' which obviously is not an email
address got obfuscated to "  ".  So it appears there that no use
of an at sign anywhere is allowed.



Re: Replacing addresses

2013-11-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> Chris Down wrote:
> > Peter Cordes wrote:
> > > Oh, also, the online bug-bash archive has a bad habbit of replacing
> > > code with address@hidden.  There was a whole thread about setting
> > > PS1=whatever that is now a complete mystery to non-subscribers!
> >
> > Yes, let's please stop this useless obfuscation. If you *must*
> > obfuscate, then it should at least be retrievable somehow that doesn't
> > require clicking through tons of stuff. Besides, the list is archived in
> > other places that don't do this, so it doesn't really help anyone.
> 
>  rot13   :-)

Doesn't help.  The '@' isn't rotated and so the result still looks
like an email address to the redaction code.

  $ echo u...@example.com | rot13
  h...@rknzcyr.pbz

Bob



Re: Replacing addresses

2013-11-28 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-28 13:01:49 -0500, Chet Ramey wrote:
> I think this is a global setting

Ouch.

> and probably does more good than the annoyance it causes.

I don't think so. From my anecdotal experience, I've only ever had it
cause irritation when reading the archives. There are a million better
ways to do it even if we want to do it.


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Re: Replacing addresses

2013-11-28 Thread Chet Ramey
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On 11/28/13, 10:09 AM, Chris Down wrote:
> On 2013-11-28 08:23:01 -0400, Peter Cordes wrote:
>>  Oh, also, the online bug-bash archive has a bad habbit of replacing
>> code with address@hidden.  There was a whole thread about setting
>> PS1=whatever that is now a complete mystery to non-subscribers!
> 
> Yes, let's please stop this useless obfuscation. If you *must*
> obfuscate, then it should at least be retrievable somehow that doesn't
> require clicking through tons of stuff. Besides, the list is archived in
> other places that don't do this, so it doesn't really help anyone.

I think this is a global setting and probably does more good than the
annoyance it causes.

Chet
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Re: Replacing addresses

2013-11-28 Thread Allodoxaphobia
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 09:09:28 -0600, Chris Down wrote:
> On 2013-11-28 08:23:01 -0400, Peter Cordes wrote:
>>  Oh, also, the online bug-bash archive has a bad habbit of replacing
>> code with address@hidden.  There was a whole thread about setting
>> PS1=whatever that is now a complete mystery to non-subscribers!
>
> Yes, let's please stop this useless obfuscation. If you *must*
> obfuscate, then it should at least be retrievable somehow that doesn't
> require clicking through tons of stuff. Besides, the list is archived in
> other places that don't do this, so it doesn't really help anyone.


 rot13   :-)




Replacing addresses

2013-11-28 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-28 08:23:01 -0400, Peter Cordes wrote:
>  Oh, also, the online bug-bash archive has a bad habbit of replacing
> code with address@hidden.  There was a whole thread about setting
> PS1=whatever that is now a complete mystery to non-subscribers!

Yes, let's please stop this useless obfuscation. If you *must*
obfuscate, then it should at least be retrievable somehow that doesn't
require clicking through tons of stuff. Besides, the list is archived in
other places that don't do this, so it doesn't really help anyone.


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