Re: OO 2.2 freezes repeatedly on Freespire 2.0.8

2008-05-02 Thread Micah Cowan
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Philip Rowlands wrote:
 On Thu, 1 May 2008, Kenneth Koym wrote:
 
 Attn: Bug-coreutils@gnu.org
  Repeatedly, OO 2.2 has froze while saving a document; often this
 happens just as I open and select a line or two for placing in another
 document or place it in an email for sending. Then, I have to spend
 hours and hours to resolve the glitch. Last night I said, before
 going to bed, this is the latest response in the terminal
 mv: cannot move `/root/.openoffice.org2' to a subdirectory of itself,
 `/root/.openoffice.org2_backup/.openoffice.org2'
 what causes this?
 
 What version of coreutils to you have installed? The bug here is the
 misleading error message from mv as
 /root/.openoffice.org2_backup/.openoffice.org2 is not a subdir of
 /root/.openoffice.org2

Wonder if the former is a symlink to the latter, and the backup wasn't
created quite right...

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Re: OO 2.2 freezes repeatedly on Freespire 2.0.8

2008-05-02 Thread Kenneth Koym
Micah, as I just said in a message to Bob P and Philip, by doing a 
control S on the file names specifically and powering down twice using 
the process consecutively, OO2.2 revived this morning after an overnight 
with the PC off.

Many Many thanks!
Kenneth

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On Thu, 1 May 2008, Kenneth Koym wrote:



Attn: Bug-coreutils@gnu.org
 Repeatedly, OO 2.2 has froze while saving a document; often this
happens just as I open and select a line or two for placing in another
document or place it in an email for sending. Then, I have to spend
hours and hours to resolve the glitch. Last night I said, before
going to bed, this is the latest response in the terminal
mv: cannot move `/root/.openoffice.org2' to a subdirectory of itself,
`/root/.openoffice.org2_backup/.openoffice.org2'
what causes this?
  

What version of coreutils to you have installed? The bug here is the
misleading error message from mv as
/root/.openoffice.org2_backup/.openoffice.org2 is not a subdir of
/root/.openoffice.org2



Wonder if the former is a symlink to the latter, and the backup wasn't
created quite right...

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Re: OO 2.2 freezes repeatedly on Freespire 2.0.8

2008-05-02 Thread Kenneth Koym
Hello Phil, in the night I responded to Mr. Proulx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Then, after sleeping five hours, the magic wane you guys sent me or 
maybe my own did its deed. Yes, this morning my OO 2.2 opened as if 
nothing had ever occurred. I cannot explain it except that I did a 
control S on each file that would not save. Then I did a full shut down 
twice. Nothing more. Apparently, the content in memory/cache was 
unloaded once the saved files released the pressure on the sys. 
Personally, I am not sophisticated with regard to tech work, so I have 
to accept the magic bit. Not really. But I still cannot explain what 
truly solved the riddle. If persistence had not forced me to submit a 
bug report, I would not have used my questioning capability to seek a 
solution that did in turn work.

Kenneth

Philip Rowlands wrote:

On Thu, 1 May 2008, Kenneth Koym wrote:


Attn: Bug-coreutils@gnu.org
Repeatedly, OO 2.2 has froze while saving a document; often this 
happens just as I open and select a line or two for placing in 
another document or place it in an email for sending. Then, I have to 
spend hours and hours to resolve the glitch. Last night I said, 
before going to bed, this is the latest response in the terminal
mv: cannot move `/root/.openoffice.org2' to a subdirectory of itself, 
`/root/.openoffice.org2_backup/.openoffice.org2'

what causes this?


What version of coreutils to you have installed? The bug here is the 
misleading error message from mv as

/root/.openoffice.org2_backup/.openoffice.org2 is not a subdir of
/root/.openoffice.org2

As the Ubuntu bug you referenced points out, previous versions of mv 
would sometimes mistakenly fail with cannot overwrite directory (see

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2006-05/msg00086.html).

Unfortunately, this cannot overwrite error message is disguising the 
real reason the mv command may be failing. Nonetheless, I'm confident 
that, even with a newer version of coreutils, your problems with 
OpenOffice freezing won't be resolved. As Bob points out in another 
reply the best people to ask about OpenOffice issues are OpenOffice 
support folks:

http://support.openoffice.org/


Cheers,
Phil



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OO 2.2 freezes repeatedly on Freespire 2.0.8

2008-05-01 Thread Kenneth Koym

Attn: Bug-coreutils@gnu.org
  Repeatedly, OO 2.2 has froze while saving a document; often this 
happens just as I open and select a line or two for placing in another 
document or place it in an email for sending. Then, I have to spend 
hours and hours to resolve the glitch. Last night I said, before going 
to bed, this is the latest response in the terminal
mv: cannot move `/root/.openoffice.org2' to a subdirectory of itself, 
`/root/.openoffice.org2_backup/.openoffice.org2'

what causes this?

Yes, why does OO 2.2 easily freeze while saving? Once it happens, one 
can click Launch Run Command [terminal]  enter mv ~/.openoffice.org2 
~/.openoffice.org2_backup but even that cure begins to fail. So, what is 
the next step that one may take to get freed of this hinderance? The 
following insights sent me by DrHu on the Freespire forum, is beyond my 
brain power. Read from DrHu who says 
http://forum.freespire.org/showthread.php?p=105526#post105526 as 
follows: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ils/+bug/71174 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/71174

mv --help
Quote:
mv --help
Usage: mv [OPTION]... [-T] SOURCE DEST
or: mv [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY
or: mv [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY SOURCE...
Rename SOURCE to DEST, or move SOURCE(s) to DIRECTORY.

Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too.
--backup[=CONTROL] make a backup of each existing destination file
-b like --backup but does not accept an argument
-f, --force do not prompt before overwriting
-i, --interactive prompt before overwrite
--strip-trailing-slashes remove any trailing slashes from each SOURCE
argument
-S, --suffix=SUFFIX override the usual backup suffix
-t, --target-directory=DIRECTORY move all SOURCE arguments into DIRECTORY
-T, --no-target-directory treat DEST as a normal file
-u, --update move only when the SOURCE file is newer
than the destination file or when the
destination file is missing
-v, --verbose explain what is being done
--help display this help and exit
--version output version information and exit

The backup suffix is `~', unless set with --suffix or SIMPLE_BACKUP_SUFFIX.
The version control method may be selected via the --backup option or 
through

the VERSION_CONTROL environment variable. Here are the values:

none, off never make backups (even if --backup is given)
numbered, t make numbered backups
existing, nil numbered if numbered backups exist, simple otherwise
simple, never always make simple backups

Report bugs to bug-coreutils@gnu.org.

I believe this is an OO 2.2 bug that needs a general solution. Write me 
back if I can provide further clarification. The question surely is 
beyond my knowledge.


Please help us.

Thanks.
Kenneth Koym
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Re: OO 2.2 freezes repeatedly on Freespire 2.0.8

2008-05-01 Thread Philip Rowlands

On Thu, 1 May 2008, Kenneth Koym wrote:


Attn: Bug-coreutils@gnu.org
 Repeatedly, OO 2.2 has froze while saving a document; often this happens 
just as I open and select a line or two for placing in another document or 
place it in an email for sending. Then, I have to spend hours and hours to 
resolve the glitch. Last night I said, before going to bed, this is the 
latest response in the terminal
mv: cannot move `/root/.openoffice.org2' to a subdirectory of itself, 
`/root/.openoffice.org2_backup/.openoffice.org2'

what causes this?


What version of coreutils to you have installed? The bug here is the 
misleading error message from mv as

/root/.openoffice.org2_backup/.openoffice.org2 is not a subdir of
/root/.openoffice.org2

As the Ubuntu bug you referenced points out, previous versions of mv 
would sometimes mistakenly fail with cannot overwrite directory (see

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2006-05/msg00086.html).

Unfortunately, this cannot overwrite error message is disguising the 
real reason the mv command may be failing. Nonetheless, I'm confident 
that, even with a newer version of coreutils, your problems with 
OpenOffice freezing won't be resolved. As Bob points out in another 
reply the best people to ask about OpenOffice issues are OpenOffice 
support folks:

http://support.openoffice.org/


Cheers,
Phil


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