Re: [Traduc] Fwd: Problème sous linux
Hi James. Ok i'll take care. For Traduc team: où - amha - l'on voit que vouloir tout franciser a des limites. Rapporter les bug = ou rapporter anomalie. Pour moi un bug est un bug, même en français. James Youngman a écrit : Dear French translation team, We seem to get a lot of questions, in French, about non-coreutils problems sent to the bug-coreutils@gnu.org mailing list. Lucas (CC'ed) pointed out that it's possible that the translation of the --help message for various coreutils programs could be a contributory factor to this pattern. I notice that other coreutils tools feature the same translation of the message (cat, for example). If this usage really is misleading it might be worth fixing the translation of the help message.Hence forwarding this message to you. James. -- Forwarded message -- From: Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, May 17, 2008 at 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Problème sous linux To: James Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nel natou [EMAIL PROTECTED], bug-coreutils@gnu.org On 13/05/08 at 10:11 +0100, James Youngman wrote: In any case, you have asked for help in the wrong place. This mailing list is devoted to the support and improvements of the GNU Core Utilities (http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/). It seems to me that your problem is probably not related to these. I think that the best thing for you to do would be to ask for help on a French-language mailing list devoted to user-support on the Linux distribution of your choice.This one isn't such a list. I wonder if he got that email from the output of command --help: $ LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF8 ls --help [..] Rapporter toutes anomalies à bug-coreutils@gnu.org. Which translates to report all bugs, not just report bugs. -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | ___ Liste de discussion Traduc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.traduc.org/mailman/listinfo/traduc [/!\ Les pièces-jointes doivent attendre l'approbation du modérateur.] ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-coreutils@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils
Re: Problème sous linux
On 13/05/08 at 10:11 +0100, James Youngman wrote: In any case, you have asked for help in the wrong place. This mailing list is devoted to the support and improvements of the GNU Core Utilities (http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/). It seems to me that your problem is probably not related to these. I think that the best thing for you to do would be to ask for help on a French-language mailing list devoted to user-support on the Linux distribution of your choice.This one isn't such a list. I wonder if he got that email from the output of command --help: $ LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF8 ls --help [..] Rapporter toutes anomalies à bug-coreutils@gnu.org. Which translates to report all bugs, not just report bugs. -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-coreutils@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils
Fwd: Problème sous linux
Dear French translation team, We seem to get a lot of questions, in French, about non-coreutils problems sent to the bug-coreutils@gnu.org mailing list. Lucas (CC'ed) pointed out that it's possible that the translation of the --help message for various coreutils programs could be a contributory factor to this pattern. I notice that other coreutils tools feature the same translation of the message (cat, for example). If this usage really is misleading it might be worth fixing the translation of the help message.Hence forwarding this message to you. James. -- Forwarded message -- From: Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, May 17, 2008 at 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Problème sous linux To: James Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nel natou [EMAIL PROTECTED], bug-coreutils@gnu.org On 13/05/08 at 10:11 +0100, James Youngman wrote: In any case, you have asked for help in the wrong place. This mailing list is devoted to the support and improvements of the GNU Core Utilities (http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/). It seems to me that your problem is probably not related to these. I think that the best thing for you to do would be to ask for help on a French-language mailing list devoted to user-support on the Linux distribution of your choice.This one isn't such a list. I wonder if he got that email from the output of command --help: $ LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF8 ls --help [..] Rapporter toutes anomalies à bug-coreutils@gnu.org. Which translates to report all bugs, not just report bugs. -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-coreutils@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils
Re: Problème sous linux
Perhaps it should be useful to mention that although the tools are i18n'zed, all reports should be in english to be taken into account. If so, we would have to display such a notice in a very obvious place, like near the mailing-list address, not hidden in some man pages. Seriously, I would be glad to fix the french translations if needed (I can do the german and japanese one as well). About the bogus bug report, I don't think that user even know the ls command exists, or knows about the console commands (he/she is a basic user, not a developer, asking general technical questions like he/she would do on a dedicated tech support address) . There is obviously easy to access graphical tool displaying this list address as a direct support contact in the Ubuntu release. This has to be something very noticeable. I have contacted the user to get more information on this. Gabriel On 05/17/2008 6:43:18 PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/05/08 at 10:11 +0100, James Youngman wrote: In any case, you have asked for help in the wrong place. This mailing list is devoted to the support and improvements of the GNU Core Utilities (http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/). It seems to me that your problem is probably not related to these. I think that the best thing for you to do would be to ask for help on a French-language mailing list devoted to user-support on the Linux distribution of your choice.This one isn't such a list. I wonder if he got that email from the output of command --help: $ LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF8 ls --help [..] Rapporter toutes anomalies à bug-coreutils@gnu.org. Which translates to report all bugs, not just report bugs. ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-coreutils@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils
Re: Problème sous linux
2008/5/8 nel natou [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bonjour. Hello. J'ai instalé Ubuntu sur mon pc en dual boot avec windows et j'ai des problèmes d'éceran ou de fréquence de raffraichissement. ce qui es bizarre, c'est qu'avant ça n'affectait que linux maintenant, ça vient même sous windows et parfois c'est très long. Je ne sia spas quoi faire. J'ai installé debian au lieu de ubuntu et ça continue Que faire? My French is quite poor, so I had some difficulty in understanding your email. I turned to Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate_t?sl=frtl=en) to help me, but unfortunately it fails to translate exactly the specific part of your email which was hard for me to understand.This is the text it gave me: Good morning. I installed Ubuntu on my pc in dual boot with windows and have problems éceran or frequency raffraichissement. what are bizarre, is that before it affected that Linux now, it's coming even in windows and sometimes it is very long. I do not know what to do. I installed debian instead ubuntu and it continues What to do? As you will see, I still can't tell what your problem is. However, if you have the same problem in Windows and in Linux, you should consider the possibility that the problem affects your hardware, and that it is not a software problem at all. In any case, you have asked for help in the wrong place. This mailing list is devoted to the support and improvements of the GNU Core Utilities (http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/). It seems to me that your problem is probably not related to these. I think that the best thing for you to do would be to ask for help on a French-language mailing list devoted to user-support on the Linux distribution of your choice.This one isn't such a list. Sorry that I was unable to solve your problem, James. ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-coreutils@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils
Anyone at Ubuntu? (wrong support address) [Was: Problème sous linux]
I wonder why there is so many french Ubuntu users asking for help here. I suspect there is a link or worse, an automated form posted to this list into a support application in the french Ubuntu distribution. Anyone at Ubuntu can check this? This list is obviously _not_ the Ubuntu french tech support. To answer the original question (I'm so glad to finally have a reason to write in French...): Bonjour, Si le problème se produit sous Ubuntu, mais aussi sous Debian ou Windows, il ne s'agit clairement pas d'un problème logiciel. Vous devriez vérifier l'état de votre carte graphique et de votre écran, et essayer de les remplacer pour confirmer quel est le matériel qui est defectueux. Gabriel On 05/13/2008 11:11:05 AM +0200, James Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/5/8 nel natou [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bonjour. Hello. J'ai instalé Ubuntu sur mon pc en dual boot avec windows et j'ai des problèmes d'éceran ou de fréquence de raffraichissement. ce qui es bizarre, c'est qu'avant ça n'affectait que linux maintenant, ça vient même sous windows et parfois c'est très long. Je ne sia spas quoi faire. J'ai installé debian au lieu de ubuntu et ça continue Que faire? My French is quite poor, so I had some difficulty in understanding your email. I turned to Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate_t?sl=frtl=en) to help me, but unfortunately it fails to translate exactly the specific part of your email which was hard for me to understand.This is the text it gave me: Good morning. I installed Ubuntu on my pc in dual boot with windows and have problems éceran or frequency raffraichissement. what are bizarre, is that before it affected that Linux now, it's coming even in windows and sometimes it is very long. I do not know what to do. I installed debian instead ubuntu and it continues What to do? As you will see, I still can't tell what your problem is. However, if you have the same problem in Windows and in Linux, you should consider the possibility that the problem affects your hardware, and that it is not a software problem at all. In any case, you have asked for help in the wrong place. This mailing list is devoted to the support and improvements of the GNU Core Utilities (http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/). It seems to me that your problem is probably not related to these. I think that the best thing for you to do would be to ask for help on a French-language mailing list devoted to user-support on the Linux distribution of your choice.This one isn't such a list. Sorry that I was unable to solve your problem, James. ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-coreutils@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-coreutils@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils
Problème sous linux
Bonjour. J'ai instalé Ubuntu sur mon pc en dual boot avec windows et j'ai des problèmes d'éceran ou de fréquence de raffraichissement. ce qui es bizarre, c'est qu'avant ça n'affectait que linux maintenant, ça vient même sous windows et parfois c'est très long. Je ne sia spas quoi faire. J'ai installé debian au lieu de ubuntu et ça continue Que faire? __ Do You Yahoo!? En finir avec le spam? Yahoo! Mail vous offre la meilleure protection possible contre les messages non sollicités http://mail.yahoo.fr Yahoo! Mail ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-coreutils@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils
