Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] LibreJS: even when whitelisted, tv.nrk.no does not play
Mart— Je 28 jan 18:42 skribis Mart: > with NoScript, I found out the following domains that tv.nrk.no uses: > > static.nrk.no > innlogging.nrk.no > psapi-ne.nrk.no > dc.services.visualstudio.com > > With these unblocked, the Flash player launched, and a trailer for a > new tv show played. Though I don't use LibreJS. NRK.no (also) works without Flash. > With Network Inspector, I got a few more: > > az416426.vo.msecnd.net — a Microsoft Azure domain. The important part > is vo.msecnd.net > nrk-od-08.akamaized.net — video stream Thank you, that's useful to know! But is incredible that public websites depend on all kind of crap. I made a proper bug report here: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?52994 Anyone, please, participate there if you have more insights, or similar problems. —Marco -- http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] LibreJS: even when whitelisted, tv.nrk.no does not play
Bill— Thank you for your response. I think I can roughly interpret it as that it would be best to wait until the FFv57+ equivalent of IceCat has arrived to GuixSD and/or Parabola before using LibreJS again on those systems. Je 28 jan 07:20 skribis bill-auger: > this is probably not related to icecat but a bug in librejs itself - > unless you can show that the same behavior is not present using a > different browser such as firefox or iceweasel, then this is actually an > issue for the librejs mailing list - On my Debian 9.3 (stretch) laptop with Firefox 52.6.0 with LibreJS 6.0.13, videos on https://tv.nrk.no/ do play when I add tv.nrk.no to the whitelist. The same version of LibreJS with IceCat 52.3.0 (on both GuixSD and Parabola) does not work when tv.nrk.no is added to the exception list. However, I now found out that it does when I add *.nrk.no to that list. In short, there appears to be difference between the system with Firefox and the systems with IceCat, but it may be too minor or unclear to report on this at another place. > although there is little point in > reporting it now as the version of librejs in the current version of > icecat has been obsoleted by mozilla starting with v57; so that librejs > development is now entirely focussed on the new FFv57+ compatible > version - what this means unfortunately for now is that it is highly > doubtful that the version of librejs in icecat will ever be upgraded or > have any bugs fixed - so whatever problems you have today with librejs > will remain until the next release of icecat; which should be compatible > with the new version of librejs On my Ubuntu 16.04 laptop I run Firefox 58.0. There I could not install LibreJS 6.0.13. On the Mozilla Add-ons site there is a newer version of LibreJS 7.11 available. It is where the GNU website links to, so it should be an official version, but this is puzzling [1]: > The LibreJS source files can be found via HTTPS: > librejs-6.0.13.tar.gz (462K). Or FTP: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/librejs/. > It can also be found on the GNU mirrors. This link will automatically > select a mirror for you. LibreJS is also available at the Mozilla > Add-ons site. Due to Mozilla's review process, the version of LibreJS > available at the Add-ons site is often outdated. This isn't in our > control. [1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/ It appears that it is outdated on the official website, or at least that GNU only offers the pre-FFv57 version of LibreJS. With LibreJS 7.11 the issue was more or less the same as for LibreJS 6.0.13 (on other systems): the video did not play (whereas it does when the extension is disabled). But now, after removing and installing the extension again from Mozilla, it does work, even without adding domains to the whitelist. Furthermore, the LibreJS button is an empty icon; I found it by hovering over an apparently empty space at the top-right of the window (next to Adblock Plus and so on). When I click on it, nothing happens. All seems fine and thus according to LibreJS 7.11 on this Ubuntu system at this point in time does not use any non-free JavaScript. I realise that all this information can be confusion. I was not sure what was important to mention, so I decided to report all my findings here. —Marco pgpR19n54e9Wp.pgp Description: OpenPGP digitale handtekening -- http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Default Search Engine
Hi all— Before expanding on Narcis' useful criticism below, MetaGer could be a good addition to the list of search engines in IceCat. When we're at it, do add La Quadrature du Net as well. https://searx.laquadrature.net/ Je 28 jan 13:31 skribis Narcis: > MetaGer still has the problem of prioritizing german results. > > [examples] > > This is not useful for me to set many people MetaGer as default search > engine. Here I also see an issue. https://metager.de/returns German results. https://metager.de/en/ returns English results. https://metager.de/es/ returns German results. https://metager.de/nl/ does not exist. https://metager.de/eo/ does not exist. https://metager.de/no/ does not exist. The main issue here is that the Spanish website returns links to German websites, instead of Spanish. Another issue (be it a bug or missing feature) is that, at least in IceCat, the language setting is ignored. —Marco -- http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] reappearing message on 'hidden elements'
Narcis and others— Je 28 jan 13:25 skribis Narcis: > I disable this plugin on all computers, because CUPS webpage > (localhost:631) doesn't work with it. I now see it is the «Reveal hidden HTML elements» extension. So I disabled it, and the buttons are not displayed anymore. I understand that you remove the extension when your local CUPS website does not work. However, I tested this on Parabola just now, and my experience is that the CUPS website does not function properly (empty help page for instance) because of the LibreJS plugin, not the «Reveal hidden HTML elements» plugin. Have been discussions already on what extensions to enable by default? There would be friction between what is needed for privacy on the one hand, and what is needed for the working of websites on the other hand. Probably the web is too broken for those things to be reconcilable. —Marco P.S. Can anyone tell me if there is a relevant difference between the terms «plugin», «add-on» and «extension»? I can see the structure how Firefox/IceCat uses them (plugins, extensions \in add-ons), but didn't we use to call these things all plug-ins? Maybe plugins are external pieces of software, whereas extensions are using internal Firefox/IceCat scripting. -- http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
[Bug-gnuzilla] LibreJS: even when whitelisted, tv.nrk.no does not play
Hello— When I try to watch a video on https://tv.nrk.no/, LibreJS blocks the non-free JavaScript that is apparently needed in this website. When I whitelist tv.nrk.no in the configuration, LibreJS does not complain, but the video does not play (also when LibreJS is the only add-on loaded in IceCat). Only if I disable the LibreJS extension, videos on https://tv.nrk.no/ will play properly. My first guess is that there is an attempt to run JavaScript from a third-party domain, but if that were the case, why would LibreJS not show a message about that? This happens with IceCat 52.3.0 on both GuixSD and Parabola, as provided by the respective distributions. LibreJS 6.0.13. —Marco -- http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
[Bug-gnuzilla] Default Search Engine
Hello— When I installed IceCat on Parabola, I got the privacy conscious La Quadrature as the default default search engine*. When I installed IceCat on GuixSD, I got Google as the default default search engine. What is the upstream default search engine? Should GNU distributions set this themselves? If the latter is the case, it would still be a good idea if the upstream default default search engine were a privacy conscious search engine. Related to this issue, a bit of browsing through the files at https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/ ** shows that the Google search engine was removed in icecat-31.2.0 but not anymore in icecat-52.0.2. That is probably fine (and discussed before on this mailinglist), but the default should not fall back to Google. Thanks! —Marco * With this I mean the default search engine that is selected when IceCat is first start, i.e. there is no ~/.mozilla/ when starting IceCat. ** These appear builds, not source code as mentioned elsewhere (https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/265828/cant-find-gnu-icecat-or-firefox-source-code) -- http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
[Bug-gnuzilla] reappearing message on "hidden elements"
Hello— Every webpage shows in the top right corner hovering over the page two buttons with this text: Click to reveil hidden elements remove buttons When I click the first button, it disappears but keeps on appearing on new pages. When I click the second, it disappears but keeps on appearing on new pages. I don't know what it means. Could it be removed from the default IceCat installation, or is it something (freedom) essential? I am using IceCat 52.3.0 on GuixSD. —Marco -- http://gnuzilla.gnu.org