Re: js-info disabling sidebar for narrow windows (experimental)
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 02:02:00PM -0800, Raymond Toy wrote: > I'm pretty sure that page was generated using texinfo 3.7. https://cmucl.org/docs/cmu-user/html/index.html says that it was generated with Texinfo 6.6dev.
Re: js-info disabling sidebar for narrow windows (experimental)
> "Gavin" == Gavin Smith writes: Gavin> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 08:05:42AM -0800, Raymond Toy wrote: >> > "Per" == Per Bothner writes: >> Per> A goal was to automatically switch to "narrow" mode on Per> smartphones, that isn't working yet. (Smartphone browsers tend Per> to do magic things with "viewport" and zooming, and dealing Per> with that needs some more research and experimentation.) >> >> Yeah, that would be awesome. When I view the html version of >> some texinfo docs, the display is rather messed up with tiny >> fonts in some cases. For example, >> https://cmucl.org/docs/cmu-user/html/index.html looks great on >> desktop, but the stuff at the very bottom renders in super tiny >> fonts on my phone. Gavin> This the font "boosting" issue. Gavin> This issue should have been dealt with in two ways. First, Gavin> in the current development version, a element is not Gavin> used to lay out a menu by default (set with the FORMAT_MENU Gavin> option). Gavin> I had also thought it had been fixed after this discussion. Gavin> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-texinfo/2020-03/msg7.html I'm pretty sure that page was generated using texinfo 3.7. >> I suggest adding > content="width=device-width,initial-scale=1"> to the standard >> HTML ... block. This will make the result noticeably >> better on mobile/pads and is, so far as I have seen, harmless on >> larger screens. Gavin> It would be worth checking that both of these changes have Gavin> happened properly. Yes, the viewport ought to be set. Still, while I'm dreaming, texinfo could do these for me since it's generating the html files. Ideally, texinfo would produce ok results by default, and let the author fine tune things as needed. But since I'm not actually contributing to fixing these issues, feel free to ignore me. :-) -- Ray
Re: js-info disabling sidebar for narrow windows (experimental)
Works better on mobile now (thanks, Gavin): http://per.bothner.com/tmp/DomTerm-txjs/ -- --Per Bothner p...@bothner.com http://per.bothner.com/
Re: js-info disabling sidebar for narrow windows (experimental)
On 2/18/21 11:24 AM, Gavin Smith wrote: I suggest adding to the standard HTML ... block. This will make the result noticeably better on mobile/pads and is, so far as I have seen, harmless on larger screens. It would be worth checking that both of these changes have happened properly. It seems to be done only for the redirection pages, created by _default_format_node_redirection_page. No other match for "viewport". Which seems rather backwards ... -- --Per Bothner p...@bothner.com http://per.bothner.com/
Re: js-info disabling sidebar for narrow windows (experimental)
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 08:05:42AM -0800, Raymond Toy wrote: > > "Per" == Per Bothner writes: > > Per> A goal was to automatically switch to "narrow" mode on > Per> smartphones, that isn't working yet. (Smartphone browsers tend > Per> to do magic things with "viewport" and zooming, and dealing > Per> with that needs some more research and experimentation.) > > Yeah, that would be awesome. When I view the html version of some > texinfo docs, the display is rather messed up with tiny fonts in some > cases. For example, https://cmucl.org/docs/cmu-user/html/index.html > looks great on desktop, but the stuff at the very bottom renders in > super tiny fonts on my phone. This the font "boosting" issue. This issue should have been dealt with in two ways. First, in the current development version, a element is not used to lay out a menu by default (set with the FORMAT_MENU option). I had also thought it had been fixed after this discussion. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-texinfo/2020-03/msg7.html > I suggest adding > > to the standard HTML ... block. This will make the result > noticeably better on mobile/pads and is, so far as I have seen, harmless > on larger screens. It would be worth checking that both of these changes have happened properly.
Re: js-info disabling sidebar for narrow windows (experimental)
> "Per" == Per Bothner writes: Per> A goal was to automatically switch to "narrow" mode on Per> smartphones, that isn't working yet. (Smartphone browsers tend Per> to do magic things with "viewport" and zooming, and dealing Per> with that needs some more research and experimentation.) Yeah, that would be awesome. When I view the html version of some texinfo docs, the display is rather messed up with tiny fonts in some cases. For example, https://cmucl.org/docs/cmu-user/html/index.html looks great on desktop, but the stuff at the very bottom renders in super tiny fonts on my phone. I have played around with making some html pages work nicely on desktop and mobile, but I'm not a web dev, so it took a lot of googling and experimenting to get something to look reasonable. And these were plain html, not pages generated by texinfo. -- Ray
js-info disabling sidebar for narrow windows (experimental)
The js-info reader doesn't attempt to handle narrow windows/screens. So I implemented something a bit more flexible. For a rough prototype, see: http://per.bothner.com/tmp/DomTerm-txjs/ Note there is a "Hide sidebar" button (with crappy styling) on the lower left. It does the obvious. Furthermore, if the window is "narrow" then the sidebar is "transient": Tt is automatically hidden when you click on a page link (in the sidebar). There are also styling and size changes, most notably that the sidebar overlays the main-bar, which is always full-width. A goal was to automatically switch to "narrow" mode on smartphones, that isn't working yet. (Smartphone browsers tend to do magic things with "viewport" and zooming, and dealing with that needs some more research and experimentation.) There are other issues. Clicking on the cross-links in the mainbar doesn't currently work when the sidebar is hidden. Feedback welcome. -- --Per Bothner p...@bothner.com http://per.bothner.com/
