[Bug-wget] Re: Re: Re: Storing the URL in extended attributes

2010-10-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Stefan Tomanek,

Am 2010-10-18 23:11:58, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
 Do you think SELinux, ACLs etc. are good ideas? They are based on the
 same principles.

SELinux absolutely no.  ACLs are only very rarely used by me.

I had a filesystem with 15 U320 (230 MByte/sec)  drives  of  300 GByte,
mean realy fast and expensive drives but with arround 180mio  INODES  it
took more then 3 days to recover from a crash, since then I have  stoped
SELinux and ACL plus some other tools which write several  million  ZERO
size files into the filesystem.

The biggest problem was, I was not warned about this mess. Same for The
Gimp and VLC, mean, I set the diretory permission to 000 and  does  not
more allow to write to it.  If a program crash because it can not write
its crap, I deinstall it and will never recommend it to anyone..

Note:   Programs which disallow to disable such things are crap.

So for wget it should only  be  used  if  the  user  set  explicite  a
commandline option or in the wgetrc.  Of course, it should not activated
hardcoded or as a default in the wgetrc.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack

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Re: [Bug-wget] Re: Re: Re: Storing the URL in extended attributes

2010-10-19 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:21:39PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 Note:   Programs which disallow to disable such things are crap.
 
 So for wget it should only  be  used  if  the  user  set  explicite  a
 commandline option or in the wgetrc.  Of course, it should not activated
 hardcoded or as a default in the wgetrc.
 
Dear angry user, it's matter of configuration. You can compile curl/wget
without a feature, you can disable it in system wide configuration file,
a user can do the same in his own configuration file or explicitly in
arguments of the utility.

We can discuss what's ideal default option, you can talk about it with your
operating system vendor or you can do it yourself (yes, Gentoo rules :).

-- Petr


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Re: [Bug-wget] Re: Re: Re: Storing the URL in extended attributes

2010-10-19 Thread Ángel González
 Petr Pisar wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:21:39PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 Note:   Programs which disallow to disable such things are crap.

 So for wget it should only  be  used  if  the  user  set  explicite  a
 commandline option or in the wgetrc.  Of course, it should not activated
 hardcoded or as a default in the wgetrc.

 Dear angry user, it's matter of configuration. You can compile curl/wget
 without a feature, you can disable it in system wide configuration file,
 a user can do the same in his own configuration file or explicitly in
 arguments of the utility.

 We can discuss what's ideal default option, you can talk about it with your
 operating system vendor or you can do it yourself (yes, Gentoo rules :).

 -- Petr
I don't think storing the urls in an extra attribute should be the
default, but seems
a good feature to add.




Re: [Bug-wget] Re: Re: Re: Storing the URL in extended attributes

2010-10-19 Thread Stefan Tomanek
Dies schrieb Michelle Konzack (linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net):

 The biggest problem was, I was not warned about this mess. Same for The
 Gimp and VLC, mean, I set the diretory permission to 000 and  does  not
 more allow to write to it.  If a program crash because it can not write
 its crap, I deinstall it and will never recommend it to anyone..
 
 Note:   Programs which disallow to disable such things are crap.

Sorry, I fail to see how your stories affect the feature described and
implemented in this patch.