Re: [Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
The problems with bsetup and castling takeback in examine mode should now have been solved in the server. The bsetup case required some additions to XBoard, to make it switch variant during the setup when the ICS changes board size. When you enter bsetup from idle mode you now get an empty 8x8 board (in stead of 0x0). Once in setup mode you can enter bsetup category board, or bsetup category, and this will set up the initial position of the variant loaded from the file category/board or category/0. This means that commands like bsetup shogi, bsetup gothic or bsetup capablanca bird work without problems, and XBoard adapts variant and board size accordingly. The problem of taking back castlings in examine mode should be fixed now; it was due to a new internal representation of castling in the ICS I had implemented to unambiguously specify Chess960 castling, but which was not recognized by the take-back routine yet. More bug reports on this are welcome, as I don't really know how setting up boards is supposd to work. Is one supposed to use edit-position mode in XBoard to setup the position? ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
[Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
Follow-up Comment #7, bug #27666 (project xboard): With the lastest git my points are fixed. I cannot decide for: 1. the bug mentioned in comment #6. 2. bsetup on VICS (xboard or server issue?) Thanks! ___ Reply to this item at: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 ___ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.gnu.org/ ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
[Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
Follow-up Comment #8, bug #27666 (project xboard): I can confirm that the bsetup and disconnect problem are server errors. The hack I made supports variable board size, and I initialize it in th boad-setup routin that starts a new game. Apparently bsetup uses another routine that does not set nr of ranks and files, so you get sent a 0x0 board! The disconnect is caused by a board that is the initial position minus Ke1, Ke8, Rh1 and Rh8. Presumably the backward command does not know how to take back O-O... I still have to try reproducing the FICS animation problem in Suicide. H.G. Muller ___ Reply to this item at: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 ___ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.gnu.org/ ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
[Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
Update of bug #27666 (project xboard): Status: Ready For Test = Fixed Open/Closed:Open = Closed ___ Follow-up Comment #9: ok. I'll close this bug then. If the others are still valid we should file a new bugreport, so that we can keep better track of things. ___ Reply to this item at: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 ___ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.gnu.org/ ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
[Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
Follow-up Comment #5, bug #27666 (project xboard): Yes, I already noticed, that Get move list is now necessary for proper variant recognition. Otherwise observing a suicide game (with xboard in normal mode) shows some effects, like move animation disabled, when kings are not on the board. misc shogi is now working. In the gothic case, I still get wrong piece placement when typing the following after a fresh login: ex admin 36 A refresh command (or making a move) repairs the positions. No segfaults any more. Other observations on VICS (probably server issues): 1. command bsetup opens xboard error window with Failed to parse board string... 2. ex admin 31 forward 99 backward 99 gives this output: Game 0: GuestIAEP backs up 99 moves. Game 0: Beginning of game. Disconnecting you from game number 1. This disconnection only happens with some games. ___ Reply to this item at: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 ___ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.gnu.org/ ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
[Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
Follow-up Comment #6, bug #27666 (project xboard): Get Move List has always been necessary for variant recognition, as ICS simply don't send any variant indication with their boards. When al variants were played on 8x8 boards with the same pieces this was a whole lot less critical, though. In ICS mode the ICS send a new board on every move, so it doesn't matter a whole lot what WinBoard thinks of the legality of the move, as long as it displays the new position it received. (Which it always does.) I already fixed the problem you notice in Gothic and e-mailed the patch to Arun yesterday, but I see he did not commit it to git yet. You seem to have stumbled on nother bug, though. That animation stops when you have no King in suicide suggests that it considers the moves illegal, and just displays the new board. This is not supposed to happen, so I looked at the CheckTest code, and it turns out I introduced a bug there: when it finds no King I return a check code, for the benifit of -variant atomic, to make it consider moves that destroy its own King illegal (so MateTest would work). But stupidly I did not reckon that this could also happen in suicide / giveaway. So I should limit this no-king = in-check patch to -variant atomic only. The other things indeed sound like server issues. The Disconnecting you from game... message typically occurs when the ICS finds no white and black Kings on the board. (Note that the open-source version of the Chessd server does not support suicide or atomic.) I should be able to see in the error log here what board the ICS actually was analysing when it came to this verdict. H.G. Muller ___ Reply to this item at: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 ___ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.gnu.org/ ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
[Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
Follow-up Comment #4, bug #27666 (project xboard): OK, I fixed the Gothic examining case on the ICS. Unfortunately the ICS handles it (like any variant switch, e.g. normal - crazyhouse) in such a way that you get the board first, without knowing what the variant is, and only sends you the variant name when you request a move list. XBoard could not handle this without patching up the code to switch variant during an (ICS) game, to recognize more variants. Now patched that as well, examining of all variants should now be possible. I had never used examine mode on an ICS, so I probably did not fully test it; If there is still something wrong, let me know. H.G. Muller ___ Reply to this item at: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 ___ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.gnu.org/ ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
[Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
URL: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 Summary: misc shogi on FICS Project: XBoard Submitted by: None Submitted on: Sun 11 Oct 2009 11:54:32 AM UTC Category: None Severity: 3 - Normal Item Group: None Status: None Privacy: Public Assigned to: None Open/Closed: Open Discussion Lock: Any ___ Details: Not that I will ever need this, but: Logon to FICS and type: ex b misc shogi Wrong board appears (compared to xboard 4.2.7). Move a white piece (eg. a3-a4) - Segmentation fault. A similar thing happens, when you try to examine a gothic game on the Variant Chess Server (playing the game works, though). ___ Reply to this item at: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 ___ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.gnu.org/ ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
[Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
Follow-up Comment #1, bug #27666 (project xboard): Well, one thing is sure: this is not Shogi. Shogi is played on a 9x9 board. There is no way to prevent ICS operators picking a name for their boards that is identical to the name of an XBoard variant, while it is in fact a board for an unrelated variant. It can run a suicide game under the name crazyhouse, or call nocastle frc, etc. This is a good way to wreck proper operation of the client. In general this should be considered an error of the ICS. In this particular case it could be solved by beefing up the variant-recognition heuristic, to give priority to recognizing 'misc' over 'shogi', and recognize it as 'normal', so that 'misc shogi' would be recognized as 'normal'. Would this be worth it? H.G. Muller ___ Reply to this item at: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 ___ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.gnu.org/ ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
[Bug-XBoard] [bug #27666] misc shogi on FICS
Follow-up Comment #3, bug #27666 (project xboard): For me it did, except the Gothic case, which I think is a server problem, not an XBoard problem. (OK, admitted, a segfault is not the best kind of error message...) H.G. Muller ___ Reply to this item at: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?27666 ___ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.gnu.org/ ___ Bug-XBoard mailing list Bug-XBoard@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
