Re: [BVARC] BVARC -- New Membership Deal !!!!

2020-04-09 Thread Rick Hiller via BVARC
Thank you , Lee,  Hope to see you at the meetings on-line, on the nets and
some day in person at one of our events.73...Rick W5RH

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:42 PM Lee Usry via BVARC  wrote:

> 24 hours too late! I’m happy to join the group and happy to pay full
> freight.
>  KI4BLU, Lee Usry.
>
> On Apr 9, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Rick Hiller via BVARC  wrote:
>
> 
> Apply on-line at  http://bvarc.org/home/join-bvarc/  or  print out the
> form and send in your application and $5 cheque by USPS.
>
> TNX..Rick
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:34 PM Rob KC5RET via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> Done!
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:57 PM Rick Hiller via BVARC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> BVARC -- Stir Crazy Net Membership Drive for New Members
>>>
>>> BVARC is lucky to have a gracious, but anonymous, member who is offering
>>> a very special deal to anyone who joins BVARC in the month of April.  He
>>> was inspired by the number of check-ins for the noontime Stir Crazy Net on
>>> the 146.94 repeater.
>>>
>>> For the first 10 new members only, when you sign up during the month of
>>> April, you will pay only $5 for the first year.  The remaining $20 will be
>>> paid, for you, by our gracious benefactor.It is only for new
>>> memberships (not renewals), only applies to the first 10 and it is only for
>>> the month of April.
>>>
>>> Apply on-line at  http://bvarc.org/home/join-bvarc/  or  print out the
>>> form and send in your application and $5 cheque by USPS.  Just ensure your
>>> letter has an April post mark.
>>>
>>> Questions?  Contact W5RH   rickhille...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> 
>>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>>>
>>> BVARC mailing list
>>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
>>>
>> 
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>>
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>>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

2020-04-09 Thread Mark Brantana via BVARC
A shot urge dark, but take a look at an app called BeONAIR. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:35 PM, David Hold via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> Good luck 
> Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC  
>> wrote:
>> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church 
>> with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know 
>> and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had 
>> encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far 
>> on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>>> 
>>> Gus, KG5OFB
>>> 
 On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC  
 wrote:
 This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
 
 https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
 
 --jv
 NA5D
 
 
 
> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other bands 
> is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In the 
> FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated Power) 
> but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get 
> you legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how 
> many of the attendees would have CBs oin their cars? 
> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can 
> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
> 
> 
> Christopher W. Boone
> WB5ITT
> Trustee, W5APX
> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC  
> wrote:
>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.  
>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM 
>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so 
>> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of 
>> parking but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or 
>> you might try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be 
>> short but has a coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has 
>> something metal to mount to to.
>> 
>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>> 
>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As 
>> far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but 
>> no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated 
>> audio in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no 
>> interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>> 
>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get 
>> that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>> 
>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god 
>> bless your service..
>> 
>> John Parmalee
>> jparma...@aol.com
>> 281-380-3811
>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>> 
>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>> 
>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn 
>> Christmas Lighting
>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but 
>> if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even 
>> though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea, 
>> you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
>> learnchristmaslighting.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>> via BVARC 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
>> Cc: Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>> 
>> Marty,
>> 
>> I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything 
>> permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I 
>> imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are designed 
>> to pump spotify from your phone through your car's radio.  If so, I'd 
>> suspect that "100 feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it would sound 
>> terrible in the real-life scenario you describe.
>> 
>> But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For just 
>> a hundred bucks, you can 

Re: [BVARC] BVARC -- New Membership Deal !!!!

2020-04-09 Thread Lee Usry via BVARC
24 hours too late! I’m happy to join the group and happy to pay full freight. 
 KI4BLU, Lee Usry. 

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Rick Hiller via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> Apply on-line at  http://bvarc.org/home/join-bvarc/  or  print out the form 
> and send in your application and $5 cheque by USPS.  
> 
> TNX..Rick 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:34 PM Rob KC5RET via BVARC  wrote:
>> Done!
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:57 PM Rick Hiller via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> BVARC -- Stir Crazy Net Membership Drive for New Members
>>> 
>>> BVARC is lucky to have a gracious, but anonymous, member who is offering a 
>>> very special deal to anyone who joins BVARC in the month of April.  He was 
>>> inspired by the number of check-ins for the noontime Stir Crazy Net on the 
>>> 146.94 repeater.
>>> 
>>> For the first 10 new members only, when you sign up during the month of 
>>> April, you will pay only $5 for the first year.  The remaining $20 will be 
>>> paid, for you, by our gracious benefactor.It is only for new 
>>> memberships (not renewals), only applies to the first 10 and it is only for 
>>> the month of April.  
>>> 
>>> Apply on-line at  http://bvarc.org/home/join-bvarc/  or  print out the form 
>>> and send in your application and $5 cheque by USPS.  Just ensure your 
>>> letter has an April post mark.
>>> 
>>> Questions?  Contact W5RH   rickhille...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>>> 
>>> BVARC mailing list
>>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
>> 
>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>> 
>> BVARC mailing list
>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rick Hiller  
> e-mail: rickhille...@gmail.com
> Cell:832-474-3713
> Physical: 9031 Troulon Drive
>Houston, TX 77036
> 
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> 
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Re: [BVARC] BVARC -- New Membership Deal !!!!

2020-04-09 Thread Rick Hiller via BVARC
Apply on-line at  http://bvarc.org/home/join-bvarc/  or  print out the form
and send in your application and $5 cheque by USPS.

TNX..Rick

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:34 PM Rob KC5RET via BVARC  wrote:

> Done!
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:57 PM Rick Hiller via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> BVARC -- Stir Crazy Net Membership Drive for New Members
>>
>> BVARC is lucky to have a gracious, but anonymous, member who is offering
>> a very special deal to anyone who joins BVARC in the month of April.  He
>> was inspired by the number of check-ins for the noontime Stir Crazy Net on
>> the 146.94 repeater.
>>
>> For the first 10 new members only, when you sign up during the month of
>> April, you will pay only $5 for the first year.  The remaining $20 will be
>> paid, for you, by our gracious benefactor.It is only for new
>> memberships (not renewals), only applies to the first 10 and it is only for
>> the month of April.
>>
>> Apply on-line at  http://bvarc.org/home/join-bvarc/  or  print out the
>> form and send in your application and $5 cheque by USPS.  Just ensure your
>> letter has an April post mark.
>>
>> Questions?  Contact W5RH   rickhille...@gmail.com
>>
>> 
>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>>
>> BVARC mailing list
>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
>>
> 
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Re: [BVARC] BVARC -- New Membership Deal !!!!

2020-04-09 Thread Rob KC5RET via BVARC
Done!

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:57 PM Rick Hiller via BVARC 
wrote:

> BVARC -- Stir Crazy Net Membership Drive for New Members
>
> BVARC is lucky to have a gracious, but anonymous, member who is offering a
> very special deal to anyone who joins BVARC in the month of April.  He was
> inspired by the number of check-ins for the noontime Stir Crazy Net on the
> 146.94 repeater.
>
> For the first 10 new members only, when you sign up during the month of
> April, you will pay only $5 for the first year.  The remaining $20 will be
> paid, for you, by our gracious benefactor.It is only for new
> memberships (not renewals), only applies to the first 10 and it is only for
> the month of April.
>
> Apply on-line at  http://bvarc.org/home/join-bvarc/  or  print out the
> form and send in your application and $5 cheque by USPS.  Just ensure your
> letter has an April post mark.
>
> Questions?  Contact W5RH   rickhille...@gmail.com
>
> 
> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>
> BVARC mailing list
> BVARC@bvarc.org
> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
>

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Re: [BVARC] BVARC -- New Membership Deal !!!!

2020-04-09 Thread Rob KC5RET via BVARC
Mr. Hiller,

Does the application have to come through USPS or can it be done online?

73, Rob, KC5RET

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:57 PM Rick Hiller via BVARC 
wrote:

> BVARC -- Stir Crazy Net Membership Drive for New Members
>
> BVARC is lucky to have a gracious, but anonymous, member who is offering a
> very special deal to anyone who joins BVARC in the month of April.  He was
> inspired by the number of check-ins for the noontime Stir Crazy Net on the
> 146.94 repeater.
>
> For the first 10 new members only, when you sign up during the month of
> April, you will pay only $5 for the first year.  The remaining $20 will be
> paid, for you, by our gracious benefactor.It is only for new
> memberships (not renewals), only applies to the first 10 and it is only for
> the month of April.
>
> Apply on-line at  http://bvarc.org/home/join-bvarc/  or  print out the
> form and send in your application and $5 cheque by USPS.  Just ensure your
> letter has an April post mark.
>
> Questions?  Contact W5RH   rickhille...@gmail.com
>
> 
> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>
> BVARC mailing list
> BVARC@bvarc.org
> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
>

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[BVARC] BVARC -- New Membership Deal !!!!

2020-04-09 Thread Rick Hiller via BVARC
BVARC -- Stir Crazy Net Membership Drive for New Members

BVARC is lucky to have a gracious, but anonymous, member who is offering a
very special deal to anyone who joins BVARC in the month of April.  He was
inspired by the number of check-ins for the noontime Stir Crazy Net on the
146.94 repeater.

For the first 10 new members only, when you sign up during the month of
April, you will pay only $5 for the first year.  The remaining $20 will be
paid, for you, by our gracious benefactor.It is only for new
memberships (not renewals), only applies to the first 10 and it is only for
the month of April.

Apply on-line at  http://bvarc.org/home/join-bvarc/  or  print out the form
and send in your application and $5 cheque by USPS.  Just ensure your
letter has an April post mark.

Questions?  Contact W5RH   rickhille...@gmail.com

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Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

2020-04-09 Thread John parmalee via BVARC
The drive in near me used RF. If you do use speakers watch for slap back from 
big sound reflective walls. It will kill the intelligence. I remember a camper 
messing with a outdoor project. 

Sent through the international space station 

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 1:08 PM, David Hold via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would try to look into a 70v multi speaker setup 
> 
> - church - may already have the amp in use for intercom 
> So all u would need to do is do the speakers a few to each row of cars.
> 
> Benefits lower volume per speaker so more intelligible less echo
> 
> I am no suggesting a setup like a drive in theater 1 speaker per car
> 
> But maybe 
> Row 1   2 speakers in middle facing the ends
> Skip a row 
> Then same on row 3 5 7 9
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Martin Blaise  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Should I tell my pastor to cancel the Easter service and just tape it?
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:35 PM David Hold via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> Good luck 
>>> Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible 
>>> 
 On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC  
 wrote:
 We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church 
 with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know 
 and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had 
 encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far 
 on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
 
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC  
> wrote:
> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
> 
> Gus, KG5OFB
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC  
>> wrote:
>> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>> 
>> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>> 
>> --jv
>> NA5D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other 
>>> bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field 
>>> intensity..In the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP 
>>> (Effective Radiated Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited 
>>> to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would 
>>> cover that better but then how many of the attendees would have CBs oin 
>>> their cars? 
>>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You 
>>> can find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to 
>>> them
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Christopher W. Boone
>>> WB5ITT
>>> Trustee, W5APX
>>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
>>>  wrote:
 I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me. 
  Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM 
 band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting 
 so you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of 
 parking but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  
 or you might try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will 
 be short but has a coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it 
 has something metal to mount to to.
 
 I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
 
 As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  
 As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter 
 but no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for 
 translated audio in services and such with no enforcement action if 
 there is no interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by 
 listening carefully,
 
 I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, 
 Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
 
 Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god 
 bless your service..
 
 John Parmalee
 jparma...@aol.com
 281-380-3811
 K5VGM WI2XLJ
 In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
 bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
 
 Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
 
 https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
 What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn 
 Christmas Lighting
 Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, 
 but if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. 
 Even though setting up some 

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

2020-04-09 Thread John parmalee via BVARC
By all means NO. Find an IFR service monitor and go for it. Some body has one I 
am sure, maybe Eddie. 

Sent through the international space station 

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Martin Blaise via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> Should I tell my pastor to cancel the Easter service and just tape it?
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:35 PM David Hold via BVARC  wrote:
>> Good luck 
>> Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church 
>>> with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know 
>>> and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had 
>>> encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far 
>>> on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>>> 
 On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC  
 wrote:
 Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
 
 Gus, KG5OFB
 
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC  
> wrote:
> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
> 
> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
> 
> --jv
> NA5D
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other 
>> bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field 
>> intensity..In the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP 
>> (Effective Radiated Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited 
>> to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would 
>> cover that better but then how many of the attendees would have CBs oin 
>> their cars? 
>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can 
>> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher W. Boone
>> WB5ITT
>> Trustee, W5APX
>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
>>  wrote:
>>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.  
>>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM 
>>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting 
>>> so you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of 
>>> parking but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or 
>>> you might try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be 
>>> short but has a coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has 
>>> something metal to mount to to.
>>> 
>>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>> 
>>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  
>>> As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter 
>>> but no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for 
>>> translated audio in services and such with no enforcement action if 
>>> there is no interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening 
>>> carefully,
>>> 
>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, 
>>> Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>> 
>>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god 
>>> bless your service..
>>> 
>>> John Parmalee
>>> jparma...@aol.com
>>> 281-380-3811
>>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
>>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>> 
>>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>> 
>>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn 
>>> Christmas Lighting
>>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but 
>>> if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even 
>>> though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea, 
>>> you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
>>> learnchristmaslighting.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>>> via BVARC 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
>>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
>>> Cc: Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>>> 
>>> Marty,
>>> 
>>> I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything 
>>> permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I 
>>> imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are designed 

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

2020-04-09 Thread Robert Polinski via BVARC
Echo is caused by reflected sound, Solid walls & ceiling cause reflections, 
creating distortion. This is not as much a problem outside. Two items that 
affect audio outside are first, abundant noise, the higher the abundant noise 
you have the higher the PA audio needs to be. When you need to run high audio 
levels, the people up close it is too loud, where as the people farther away 
have a harder time separating the abundant noise from the PA audio. The place 
you set up the sound system needs to be a quiet location with low abundant 
noise, not next to a freeway, busy road or equipment. Second, try to locate the 
speakers as high as possible & as close as possible ( on a 1 story roof if 
possible ) If you spread the speakers out (unless they are widely separated) 
people located between the speakers, maybe closer to 1 than the other will 
receive a audio delay in one ear than the other, making understanding hard. ( 
sound travels slow LOL) also the PA system must have some EQ adjustment in the 
speakers mic as voice has a narrow dynamic range, too much dynamic range on a 
voice mic will amplify white noise & background audio making the voice sound 
distorted. If you locate the speakers high and away from the listener, the 2 or 
more speakers will sound more like 1. Robert 

 

From: BVARC  On Behalf Of David Hold via BVARC
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 12:35 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
Cc: David Hold 
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

 

Good luck 

Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible 

 

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote:

We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church with 
an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know and I 
will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had encouraged 
leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far on this let me 
know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.

 

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote:

Great article, Jimmy - thanks!

 

Gus, KG5OFB

 

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote:

This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand

https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus

--jv
NA5D



On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:

The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other bands is in 
Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In the FM band of 
88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated Power) but not exact. 
Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you legally 300 
ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how many of the attendees 
would have CBs oin their cars?  

Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can find 
enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them

 




Christopher W. Boone
WB5ITT

Trustee, W5APX
Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans



 

 

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote:

I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.  Why not 
use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM band,   I don't 
know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so you have to turn the 
receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking but I suggest an antenna 
cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might try a mobile mag mount stuck 
to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a coil in the base that will 
extend it. Make sure it has something metal to mount to to.

 

I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.

 

As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As far as 
I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but no provisions 
for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated audio in services 
and such with no enforcement action if there is no interference to anyone.  
Choose your frequency by listening carefully, 

 

I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get that 
antenna in the air, you will need the margin.

 

Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god bless 
your service..

 

John Parmalee

jparma...@aol.com  

281-380-3811

K5VGM WI2XLJ

In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, bvarc@bvarc.org 
  writes: 

 

Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.

 

https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/


 

 What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn Christmas 
Lighting

Okay, maybe they aren’t 

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

2020-04-09 Thread David Hold via BVARC
I would try to look into a 70v multi speaker setup 

- church - may already have the amp in use for intercom 
So all u would need to do is do the speakers a few to each row of cars.

Benefits lower volume per speaker so more intelligible less echo

I am no suggesting a setup like a drive in theater 1 speaker per car

But maybe 
Row 1   2 speakers in middle facing the ends
Skip a row 
Then same on row 3 5 7 9



> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Martin Blaise  wrote:
> 
> 
> Should I tell my pastor to cancel the Easter service and just tape it?
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:35 PM David Hold via BVARC  wrote:
>> Good luck 
>> Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church 
>>> with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know 
>>> and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had 
>>> encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far 
>>> on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>>> 
 On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC  
 wrote:
 Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
 
 Gus, KG5OFB
 
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC  
> wrote:
> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
> 
> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
> 
> --jv
> NA5D
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other 
>> bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field 
>> intensity..In the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP 
>> (Effective Radiated Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited 
>> to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would 
>> cover that better but then how many of the attendees would have CBs oin 
>> their cars? 
>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can 
>> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher W. Boone
>> WB5ITT
>> Trustee, W5APX
>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
>>  wrote:
>>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.  
>>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM 
>>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting 
>>> so you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of 
>>> parking but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or 
>>> you might try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be 
>>> short but has a coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has 
>>> something metal to mount to to.
>>> 
>>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>> 
>>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  
>>> As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter 
>>> but no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for 
>>> translated audio in services and such with no enforcement action if 
>>> there is no interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening 
>>> carefully,
>>> 
>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, 
>>> Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>> 
>>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god 
>>> bless your service..
>>> 
>>> John Parmalee
>>> jparma...@aol.com
>>> 281-380-3811
>>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
>>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>> 
>>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>> 
>>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn 
>>> Christmas Lighting
>>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but 
>>> if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even 
>>> though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea, 
>>> you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
>>> learnchristmaslighting.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>>> via BVARC 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
>>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
>>> Cc: Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>>> 

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

2020-04-09 Thread Martin Blaise via BVARC
Should I tell my pastor to cancel the Easter service and just tape it?

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:35 PM David Hold via BVARC 
wrote:

> Good luck
> Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the
>> church with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let
>> me know and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I
>> had encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too
>> far on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>>>
>>> Gus, KG5OFB
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand


 https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus

 --jv
 NA5D



 On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:

 The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other
 bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In
 the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated
 Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY
 get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how
 many of the attendees would have CBs oin their cars?
 Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You
 can find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them


 Christopher W. Boone
 WB5ITT
 Trustee, W5APX
 Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans




 On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC <
 bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:

> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck
> me.  Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM
> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so
> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking
> but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might
> try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has 
> a
> coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
> mount to to.
>
> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>
> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.
> As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but
> no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated
> audio in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no
> interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>
> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty,
> Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>
> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god
> bless your service..
>
> John Parmalee
> jparma...@aol.com
> 281-380-3811
> K5VGM WI2XLJ
> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>
> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>
>
> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn
> Christmas Lighting
> 
> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days,
> but if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. 
> Even
> though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea,
> you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
> learnchristmaslighting.com
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick
> Ratnala via BVARC 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
> *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
> *Cc:* Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
> *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>
> Marty,
>
> I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything
> permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I
> imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are designed to
> pump spotify from your phone through your car's radio.  If so, I'd suspect
> that "100 feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it would sound terrible in
> the real-life scenario you describe.
>
> But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

2020-04-09 Thread David Hold via BVARC
Good luck
Hate PA. All echo and distorted and unintelligible

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Blaise via BVARC 
wrote:

> We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church
> with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know
> and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had
> encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far
> on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>>
>> Gus, KG5OFB
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>>>
>>>
>>> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>>>
>>> --jv
>>> NA5D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>>>
>>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other
>>> bands is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In
>>> the FM band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated
>>> Power) but not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY
>>> get you legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how
>>> many of the attendees would have CBs oin their cars?
>>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can
>>> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher W. Boone
>>> WB5ITT
>>> Trustee, W5APX
>>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.
 Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM
 band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so
 you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking
 but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might
 try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a
 coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
 mount to to.

 I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.

 As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.
 As far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but
 no provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated
 audio in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no
 interference to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,

 I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty,
 Get that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.

 Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god
 bless your service..

 John Parmalee
 jparma...@aol.com
 281-380-3811
 K5VGM WI2XLJ
 In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
 bvarc@bvarc.org writes:

 Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.


 https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
 What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn
 Christmas Lighting
 
 Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but
 if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even
 though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea,
 you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
 learnchristmaslighting.com



 --
 *From:* BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick
 Ratnala via BVARC 
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
 *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
 *Cc:* Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
 *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

 Marty,

 I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything
 permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I
 imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are designed to
 pump spotify from your phone through your car's radio.  If so, I'd suspect
 that "100 feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it would sound terrible in
 the real-life scenario you describe.

 But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For
 just a hundred bucks, you can start your very own pirate radio station
 anywhere on the commercial FM dial.  This thing should provide nice, punchy
 audio to your entire church's congregation.  Very, very illegal, though.


 

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

2020-04-09 Thread Martin Blaise via BVARC
We are just going to have the pastor stand in the grass outside the church
with an amplifier. If it is unsafe to roll down windows please let me know
and I will contact the church and tell them not to do it. Thanks I had
encouraged leaving parking spaces open between cars. If I am going too far
on this let me know. Thanks. We won't have many cars there.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gus Bernard via BVARC 
wrote:

> Great article, Jimmy - thanks!
>
> Gus, KG5OFB
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>>
>>
>> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>>
>> --jv
>> NA5D
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>>
>> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other bands
>> is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In the FM
>> band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated Power) but
>> not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you
>> legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how many of
>> the attendees would have CBs oin their cars?
>> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can
>> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>>
>>
>> Christopher W. Boone
>> WB5ITT
>> Trustee, W5APX
>> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.
>>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM
>>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so
>>> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking
>>> but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might
>>> try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a
>>> coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
>>> mount to to.
>>>
>>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>>
>>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As
>>> far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but no
>>> provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated audio
>>> in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no interference
>>> to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>>>
>>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get
>>> that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>>
>>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god
>>> bless your service..
>>>
>>> John Parmalee
>>> jparma...@aol.com
>>> 281-380-3811
>>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
>>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>>
>>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn
>>> Christmas Lighting
>>> 
>>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but
>>> if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even
>>> though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea,
>>> you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
>>> learnchristmaslighting.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick
>>> Ratnala via BVARC 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
>>> *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
>>> *Cc:* Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>>>
>>> Marty,
>>>
>>> I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything
>>> permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I
>>> imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are designed to
>>> pump spotify from your phone through your car's radio.  If so, I'd suspect
>>> that "100 feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it would sound terrible in
>>> the real-life scenario you describe.
>>>
>>> But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For just
>>> a hundred bucks, you can start your very own pirate radio station anywhere
>>> on the commercial FM dial.  This thing should provide nice, punchy audio to
>>> your entire church's congregation.  Very, very illegal, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retekess-6W-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Station-Antenna-Wireless-Factory-Church-Home/324108794811?hash=item4b7663:g:48UAAOSwBfhcExIJ
>>>
>>> How about just setting up a PA system?
>>>
>>> 73 de N5OL
>>>
>>> On 3/31/2020 3:01 PM, Martin Blaise via BVARC wrote:
>>>

Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service

2020-04-09 Thread Gus Bernard via BVARC
Great article, Jimmy - thanks!

Gus, KG5OFB

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:14 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC 
wrote:

> This is a good article that discusses the subject at hand
>
>
> https://thepublicsradio.org/episode/theec-radio-for-churches-during-coronavirus
>
> --jv
> NA5D
>
>
>
> On 4/8/2020 12:13 PM, SETX Telecom via BVARC wrote:
>
> The LEGAL limit for unlicensed operation in the FM as well as other bands
> is in Part 15It is NOT based on power but a field intensity..In the FM
> band of 88-108, it comes CLOSE to 100mw ERP (Effective Radiated Power) but
> not exact. Bluetooth is usually limited to 30ft. 100mw on FM MAY get you
> legally 300 ftA CB radio would cover that better but then how many of
> the attendees would have CBs oin their cars?
> Multiple FM Part15 xmtrs placed in the right spots would work IF You can
> find enough clear frequencies. Then you have to get the audio to them
>
>
> Christopher W. Boone
> WB5ITT
> Trustee, W5APX
> Chief Engineer, iHeartMedia New Orleans
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM john Parmalee via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> I have watched this thread and thought about it and an idea struck me.
>> Why not use a service monitor. An IFR or equivalent will cover the FM
>> band,   I don't know it it will modulate to 75 kHz without distorting so
>> you have to turn the receiver up a bit.  I don't know what size of parking
>> but I suggest an antenna cut to frequency  up 15 or 20 feet  or you might
>> try a mobile mag mount stuck to a pipe vertical. it will be short but has a
>> coil in the base that will extend it. Make sure it has something metal to
>> mount to to.
>>
>> I defiantly think you need a run through with enough time for a redo.
>>
>> As far as the FCC is concerned you are a pirate station and illegal.  As
>> far as I know under part 15 you can run a low power AM transmitter but no
>> provisions for the FM band.  It is quite common though for translated audio
>> in services and such with no enforcement action if there is no interference
>> to anyone.  Choose your frequency by listening carefully,
>>
>> I expect a full parking lot will be different RF wise from an empty, Get
>> that antenna in the air, you will need the margin.
>>
>> Call me if I can help, let me know how it went. Good luck and may god
>> bless your service..
>>
>> John Parmalee
>> jparma...@aol.com
>> 281-380-3811
>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>> In a message dated 3/31/2020 4:45:33 PM Central Standard Time,
>> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>>
>> Found this on Google; haven't verified with the legal code.
>>
>>
>> https://learnchristmaslighting.com/what-fm-transmitter-do-i-need-for-my-christmas-light-show/
>> What FM Transmitter Do I Need for My Christmas Light Show? – Learn
>> Christmas Lighting
>> 
>> Okay, maybe they aren’t “turning the dial” quite like the old days, but
>> if you want your display to be heard, you need an FM transmitter.. Even
>> though setting up some large PA speakers might seem like a good idea,
>> you’ll quickly lose the friendship of your neighbors!
>> learnchristmaslighting.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* BVARC  on behalf of Ravi Patrick
>> Ratnala via BVARC 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
>> *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
>> *Cc:* Ravi Patrick Ratnala 
>> *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Fm transmitter for Easter service
>>
>> Marty,
>>
>> I've read the same thing - somewhere - but I can't find anything
>> permitting it in the regs, so I don't know if it's true.  If it is, I
>> imagine it would be for things like bluetooth devices that are designed to
>> pump spotify from your phone through your car's radio.  If so, I'd suspect
>> that "100 feet" is a dreamy maximum, and that it would sound terrible in
>> the real-life scenario you describe.
>>
>> But as always, FleaBay to the rescue: a 6-watt FM transmitter!  For just
>> a hundred bucks, you can start your very own pirate radio station anywhere
>> on the commercial FM dial.  This thing should provide nice, punchy audio to
>> your entire church's congregation.  Very, very illegal, though.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retekess-6W-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Station-Antenna-Wireless-Factory-Church-Home/324108794811?hash=item4b7663:g:48UAAOSwBfhcExIJ
>>
>> How about just setting up a PA system?
>>
>> 73 de N5OL
>>
>> On 3/31/2020 3:01 PM, Martin Blaise via BVARC wrote:
>>
>> I read that anything 25 milliwatts or less for 100 feet is ok
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexander Park via BVARC 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure that will be legal without an license
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 2:09 PM Martin Blaise via BVARC 
>> wrote:
>>
>> My church would like to do a parking lot service for Easter and my pastor
>> asked me what fm transmitter we could use to broadcast the service from the
>> church to the cars per social distancing. Email or call me at 713-305-2148
>> thanks Marty
>> 

Re: [BVARC] Antenna Mounting Options

2020-04-09 Thread SETX Telecom via BVARC
Motorola has an excellent article on grounding at telecom sites...a bit
high end for amateur residential settings but worthwhile readings
nonetheless...Google Motorola R56 standard and give it a read

In my ears of telecommunication some broadcasting, there have been
different methods. Broadcasters go with a 4in wide copper scrap to
interconnect everything. Telecommunications uses 4 gauge or larger wire in
a halo ring inside then a single conductor outside to a buried halo system
consisting of several 8 foot ground rods tied together using cathodic
welding.

Nothing can prevent a direct strike, you can only mitigate the damage. The
only real way to prevent damage is unplug every cable to the equipment
before lightning occurs

Chris
WB5ITT

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 6:16 AM Mark Brantana via BVARC 
wrote:

> Since folks are hunkered down anyways, here is a problem.  I am improving
> my emergency radio capability by adding a 2-m radio to my home office. Who
> knows where this thing is going, and I think this is a good time to
> prepare.  I would like your thoughts or experience with the following.
>
>
>
> I am looking to mount a 2-m antenna on my roof.  Currently I have a TV
> antenna attached with a j-pole just below the chimney output.  I have a
> single-story house.  My plan has been to extend the j-pole about 4 ft
> higher to get better TV reception, and mount the antenna just above it.  I
> do have to watch out for offending the HOA.
>
>
>
> My property has power lines running parallel with the back of the house,
> and these power lines are about 35 feet high and 35 feet laterally away
> from the chimney.
>
>
>
> I am concerned about a couple of things:
>
>1. Some day I may want to start a fire in the fireplace, and I do not
>want the heat to get to the antennas.  This is why I have the TV antenna
>mounted below the top of the chimney.
>2. I would like to avoid arching or lightning strikes, though I think
>it is quite common for most of us to have power lines around to contend
>with.  Two thoughts here:
>   1. Of course, I will ground it all.
>   2. I wonder if the power lines might protect the lower antennas
>   since lightning may hit them first.  I mention this since the first 
> thought
>   was that the power lines might add to the lightning risk, not detract.
>   3. That said, lightning does what it wants, and even a nearby
>   lightning strike, as opposed to a direct strike, will do significant 
> damage.
>
>
>
> On that last point, I will share a short story.  When in Louisiana many
> years ago, we got into a discussion about how lightning had destroyed a lot
> of equipment in a member’s shack.  This included, as I recall, about 3-5
> computers, and about as many radios.  This was all sitting on a metal
> table.  Due to the lightning storm, the Ham had disconnected all of the
> antennas.  Lightning hit his tower and made the 2” jump to the table.  The
> rest was history.  But, that was not the story I wanted to tell.  That was
> the discussion we were having.  Another Ham broke in and told us that he
> had a tower at one end of his house which was operational, and he had just
> that day mounted a short marine antenna at the other end of the house on
> his chimney.  It was a dark and stormy night the previous evening, and the
> lightning passed the tower to hit the yet unconnected marine antenna.  So,
> lightning does not follow the rules.
>
>
>
> OK, so I diverged.  I really would like to know what experience and advice
> you can offer me on my project.  The power lines make me nervous, and I
> really wish my best mounting option were not in the heat zone of the
> chimney.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> N5PRD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [BVARC] Antenna Mounting Options

2020-04-09 Thread Will Gray via BVARC
Ron,

Glad I got to cruise in USS CORAL SEA  and USS MIDWAY.  They and the old
FDR were built on IOWA BB class hulls and power plants right after WWII.
We went in Yokosuka dry dock for a very brief stay while the Japs put four
reworked screws on the ship: huge beautiful bronze screws from a BB that
had dropped them off a few years earlier.  The ships were still burning
Bunker C back then Had to heat it to pump it.  It would really put out the
black smoke in the groove for we pilots IFR in the grove was common on
approach.  Great old ships but with jets they were at their limit for steam
to the cats.   You could feel the ship slowing when they were dragging max
steam for the heavy A-4 shots.  MIDWAY was great because we had a GREAT
captain.  ADMIRAL Sylvester R. Foley, USN, died very recently at 91.
Fabulous man.  Not like the crap we just read about on the TR and the
Captain's letter and then SECNAV going out there grabbing the 1-MC mike and
making a fool of himself.  It is a different Navy now but we are always at
war with the sea so there is a standard we must not go below.  Like the
aviators, you gotta be able to get aboard EVERY time.  Another one of those
fixed minimum standards.  Yes, hand clasped over the fist and jerked apart
right in the man's face sends the perfect message.   Will, KB7QL

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 7:45 PM Ron Bosch via BVARC  wrote:

> Will,
> Well met sir, even if you are a brown shoe :-)  Never knew anybody off the
> Coral Sea, but I knew an ABM off the Midway.  he taught me two very
> important things I use to this day:
>
> 1.  "There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Midway".  I often quote
> that to new folks who can't quite figure out why the companies I have
> worked for since getting out do the things they do.
> 2.  What the flight deck hand signal means that is a cupped hand over your
> fist, and then pull your fist down.  I used to use that one quite often
> when I was working with new guys on oil platforms and drill ships right
> after I got out.  Still use it sometimes in Management meetings, but I
> don't explain to them what it means.
>
> Good to hear about your Daughter, sounds like she wants to be at the tip
> of the spear.  Tell her I said to remember that there are only two kinds of
> vessels, submarines and targets!!
>
> Ron
>
>
> Judging by personal experience, the next public health crisis after COVID
> 19 is likely to be cirrhosis.
> Ron Bosch
>
> When I was young and bold and strong,
> Oh, right was right, and wrong was wrong!
> My plume on high, my flag unfurled,
> I rode away to right the world.
> ‘Come out, you dogs, and fight!’ said I,
> And wept there was but once to die.
>
> But I am old; and good and bad
> Are woven in a crazy plaid.
>
> Dorothy Parker
>
> "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate
> intensity"
>
> Wm Butler Yeats
>
> "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between
> man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his
> worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and
> not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole
> American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law
> respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
> thereof", thus building a wall of separation between church and State."
>
> Thomas Jefferson
>
>
>  "Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact,
> every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because,
> if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason, than that of
> blindfolded fear."
>
> Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Peter Carr
>
>
> A Government founded upon justice, and recognizing the equal rights of all
> men; claiming no higher authority for existence, or sanction for its laws,
> than nature, reason, and the regularly ascertained will of the people;
> steadily refusing to put its sword and purse in the service of any
> religious creed or family, is a standing offense to most of the Governments
> of the world, and to some narrow and bigoted people among ourselves.
>
> Frederick Douglass
>
> "..any man who may be asked what he did .. to make his life worthwhile, I
> think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction" 'I served in
> the United States Navy."
>
> John F. Kennedy
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:29 PM Will Gray via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> Ron,  I quit college early joined the Navy via the Aviation Cadet program
>> (NAVCAD).  Spent my at sea life in USS CORAL SEA as an RF8G photo pilot in
>> over Vietnam beginning at the ripe old age of 22.  Then a cruise in the MED
>> in USS SHANGRILA.  A tour with the USAF in T-38s teaching instructors
>> (haver having been an instructor myself) then back to USS MIDWAY  in the
>> RF8G for its last combat cruise of the war.  Following that I moved to the
>> EA6B Prowler community for several cruises ending as CO of VAQ-133.  

[BVARC] Fw: Thursday, April 9th, 7 p.m. Meeting Details

2020-04-09 Thread Jeff Greer via BVARC
All, just a reminder to join us for the virtual BVARC general membership 
meeting tonight.  All are welcome to attend.  Hope to "see you there."  Meeting 
details are below.

Thanks!

-Jeff, W5JEF


From: BVARC  on behalf of Jeff Greer via BVARC 

Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 10:27 AM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
Cc: Jeff Greer 
Subject: [BVARC] Thursday, April 9th, 7 p.m. Meeting Details


All,


Meeting details for the Thursday, April 9th meeting at 7 p.m.  Walter will be 
discussing the state of APRS in our area.


Hi there,

K5WH Walter is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Join Zoom 
Meeting

Phone one-tap:

US: +13462487799,,2815436502# or 
+16699006833,,2815436502#

Meeting URL:

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Meeting ID:

281 543 6502

Password:

123456

Join by Telephone

For higher quality, dial a number based on your current location.

Dial:

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Meeting ID:

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