Re: [Callers] Favorite dance to teach a ladies chain?

2016-08-24 Thread John Sweeney via Callers
Hi Luke,
I use Chain 'n' Hey http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/ChainnHey.html a 
lot with groups where at least some of the people know what they are doing.  
No, I don't generally draw imaginary lines on the floor for ordinary heys (yes, 
for a Lichfield Hey!), but I often demonstrate and tell them to watch how we 
are walking figure eights (with extra loops) and weaving between each other.

I teach the Courtesy turn first, hand positions and hips together - 
tell them to imagine a pole between them and the man walks backwards around the 
pole, the lady walks forwards.  Once they get it I tell them, "OK. Now you are 
Pole Dancing". :-)

I then tell the ladies to make sure they only "touch & go" with their 
right hands - no holding on - and that their objective is to get around the man 
by passing him with their left shoulder - and to walk forwards all the time (so 
many try to back into the man's arm!).  Then I tell the men that their job is 
to step in and scoop up the lady with their right arm (I used to focus on the 
left hand, but have found that focussing on the right arm has more success), 
then do the courtesy turn that they have learnt.

Once they get it (reasonably well) I tell the ladies to step forwards 
and the men to step back and make a line of four ready for the hey (it really 
helps to get the men to step back!).  Now the ladies already know the path 
since it is exactly the same as two ladies' chains.  As long as I can persuade 
them to keep their eye on the last person they pass so they turn the easy way, 
and to make that turn a big loop, then there is a high level of success.  The 
dance is also forgiving since they have 16 beats of partner balance and swing 
to get back to their own side and get ready for the lines.

I think the R & L Through is the worst move of all!  It is completely 
counter-intuitive. The lady pulls by with her right hand, and especially if the 
man hangs on, she automatically starts to turn to the right, when she needs to 
turn to the left.  There are areas and styles where it is the standard to pass 
through without hands, then do the courtesy turn with hands.  I have a much 
higher success rate when I teach it that way.  I quite often change a R & L 
Through to a Half Promenade if there is only one dance I want to do in an 
evening that has a R & L Through.

Happy dancing,
John

John Sweeney, Dancer, England j...@modernjive.com 01233 625 362 
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent   

From: Luke Donforth via Callers [mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net] 
Sent: 23 August 2016 13:42
To: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Favorite dance to teach a ladies chain?

Interesting approach John. I'd personally hesitate to introduce both chain and 
a hey in the same dance for mostly new dancers. Do you draw an extensive 
parallel of the motion on the floor for the ladies?



Re: [Callers] On Balances, Box circulates, Allemandes, Circles & Timing

2016-08-24 Thread Alan Winston via Callers



On 8/23/16 8:10 PM, Don Veino via Callers wrote:
Following this logic, where an on-time arrival is essential out of a 
star it would be best to make it hands-across (H-A). In a H-A star, 
folks can use a similar arm angle adjustment to vary the star 
circumference (and resulting speed). Due to the configuration, there's 
less opportunity to gently* influence star speed with the pack 
saddle/hand-on-wrist form.


BTW, in dances featuring a star where a pair drop out I mention 
there's no need to shove your opposite away at disengagement - 
centrifugal force will gently take care of it once you let go of them. 
This is a curious bit which only seems to happen in this case - I've 
never received a parting shove when an "everybody" H-A star breaks up, 
but there's always someone in the line doing it in the drop out variant.


*
I find that a lot - maybe most - gents in the SF Bay Area will do a push 
off on dropping out of a hands-across star, and since I'm expecting it I 
kind of like it and offer a rigid-enough arm to be pushed off from.


On the other hand, it's a very small minority of gents who'll push off 
from a star promenade, and I wish it were more.  (There's a lot of 'em 
who'll just drop the allemande hand once they've picked up the lady 
they're promenading with, and then the figure is really, really 
unsatisfying.)


-- Alan