Re: [Callers] If You Can Walk...

[Luke Donforth via Callers]

I wrote a couple different ones, playing with that title. They're all
similar, and mostly designed to go after my beginner walk through (which
teaches the progression with balance the ring -> pass through)

It's highly probable that other folks have also used riffs on that title,
and that these dances already exist under other names:

If you can walk, then you can dance
by Luke Donforth
Contra/Improper/Easy

A1 ---
(8) Neighbor Do-si-do
(8) Neighbor swing
A2 ---
(8) Promenade across the Set (with neighbor)
(8) Circle Right 3/4
B1 ---
(16) Partner balance and swing
B2 ---
(8) Circle Left 3/4
(4) Balance the Ring
(4) Pass through to new neighbors


I like to walk, I love to dance
by Luke Donforth
Contra/Improper/Beginner-Easy

A1 ---
(8) Neighbor Do-si-do
(8) Neighbor swing
A2 ---
(8) Promenade across the Set
(8) Long lines, forward and back
B1 ---
(8) Gents allemande Left 1-1/2
(8) Partner swing
B2 ---
(8) Circle Left 3/4
(4) Balance the Ring
(4) Pass through to new neighbors

(This is the same moves as "To Wedding Bliss" by Mark Goodwin, but the A2
and B1 are reversed, so you promenade with neighbor instead of partner)

Don’t have to walk, but you can dance
by Luke Donforth
Contra/Improper/Easy

A1 ---
(8) Neighbor Do-si-do
(8) Neighbor swing
A2 ---
(8) Promenade across the Set (with neighbor)
(8) Ladies allemande Right 1-1/2
B1 ---
(16) Partner balance and swing
B2 ---
(8) Circle Left 3/4
(4) Balance the Ring
(4) California Twirl with Partner


I look forward to hearing what other dances exist under that title.
Luke

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I am looking for a contra dance titled,  "If You Can Walk, You can Dance",
> or maybe, "If you Can Dance, You Can Walk".
>
> Would someone please share it, or a link.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
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[Callers] If You Can Walk...

[Rich Sbardella via Callers]

I am looking for a contra dance titled,  "If You Can Walk, You can Dance",
or maybe, "If you Can Dance, You Can Walk".

Would someone please share it, or a link.

Thanks,
Rich

Re: [Callers] I think this might work....

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Looks like a nice dance, Kelsey. The pushback/ricochet into a swing is one
of my favorite combinations of moves.

I must say, however, that I'm not familiar with the Jersey twirl. It is
just a CA twirl, but with the opposite hands, and then you use the joined
hands (Gent's left, Lady's right) to pull into the swing?

Thanks again for sharing!  :)

Mark

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Kelsey Hartman via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi! Had an idea and wanted to share it with y'all!
>
> Venturing Vortices
> Improper by Kelsey Hartman 3.18.2017
> {Started out as a dance written for the Ides of March (called Berkeley
> dance 3.15.2017) called "Take a Stab at It,"
> ​
> (Sharon Gavin suggested the title)
> ​
> but the B1's timing didn't quite work. Loved the flow of the A1 and A2 so
> re-wrote the ending and renamed it.}
> A1: (16) Balance the ring and jersey twirl to swing neighbor
> A2: (16) Gents start 1/2 hey and ladies ricochet back to partner SWING
> B1: (16) (eFace away from partner) pass Shadow #1 by left, Shadow #2 by
> right, LEFT shoulder round Shadow #3, RETURN pass #2 by right, #1 by left
> B2: (8) Circle Left with partner and current neighbors 3/4, CA twirl and
> (8) Circle Right 1x around (move it!)
>
> Would love comments...thanks, Dan Veino for sharing the jersey twirl...
>
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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

Hi Esther,
   If anyone has not mentioned it, I feel there is a kink in the flow trying to 
go from a petronella to a chain.  As you spin R, it is the left hand which 
feels available as you face the set because your body has been rotating 
clockwise, even as it move CCW around the minor set. So there will be this 
washing machine action to get into the chain.  You might be counting on the 
claps to arrest that movement, but I still feel it's not an especially 
satisfying entry into the chain.  A gents chain, otoh, would be peachy.

What, to you, is the hook in this dance? What were you going for?  

Best,
Andrea

Sent from my external brain

> On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> Has anyone seen this dance already?
> 
> A1: Balance the ring & petronella
>Ladies Chain
> A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
> B1: Ladies Chain
>   P Allemande L
> B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
>Balance the ring & California twirl
> 
> Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande 
> Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it 
> somewhere, but I can't remember where.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [Callers] How do you organize your Dance Card Boxes ? Categories or Other Suggestions ?

[JD Erskine via Callers]

On 2017-04-07 1820, Cheryl Joyal via Callers wrote:

I am at the point that I want to reorganize my dance box to be able to
better program an evening.   I plan to go to “categories of dance
features”, and have listed what I am thinking for possible categories
below.

I am wondering how others organize their boxes - if categories, what do
you include ?  Do you file Becket and/or Double Progression separately
from “dance categories”, or just note on card ?

Or do you have another suggestion ?

snip


Appreciate your suggestions !!   Thanks - Cheryl

Cheryl Joyal


Hi Cheryl,

Most responses seem to follow the categorisation ideas you've started 
with or alternates. So I suppose I'll chip in with this as I haven't 
seen anyone else mention it.


I don't categorise mine, not to that degree.

Nor do I use cards, too small to see.

I often have one-side-used paper available so I simply use binders with 
letter size print outs. I stand a chance of seeing what I need from the 
music stand if I require a reminder at all during the dance.


Also I can put the Calling version of text at page top and if I do a 
Teaching version of text I'll place that below, on the lower half the 
page. That's usually for ECD. That keeps the Calling portion clean, with 
minimal text.


I do keep one binder for ECD/Playford and that ilk, and another which 
tends to house Contra, Barn/Community/Easy, and eCeilidh, Scottish 
Ceilidh. Each binder is alphabetically sorted.


(Kalia: Just a _handful_ of dances do have a copy in the other binder. 
Others I know where to find them, and mark them up if they migrate to a 
collection for an event, so they may find their way "home".)


Occasionally I'll pull most of a type out for a gig, or a gig's worth 
and spares. i.e. overnight travel for a Scottish ceilidh.


I tag such items as Becket, Double Progression, Easy and such in text 
and underline or bold that. Occasionally I'll mark it up with another 
term or characteristic if it seems useful along the way.


I've tried Colin Hume's program and enjoyed it, however I can't really 
afford it so haven't carried on using it (shareware honour and all 
that.) I don't always have a computer along running MS Windows either. 
The one I own is a 10" netbook so not as much real estate for viewing.


I'd really enjoy a cross platform application, however don't expect one 
to show up any time soon. (In Java perhaps?) I'm also loath to enter 
then re-enter loads of dance and event data with the adoption of new 
devices or operating systems. So, for now, this works.


If I really desire a dance or to include a move/figure for an event, 
then at initial program planning time I'll do some text searches on the 
desktop computer, gather some titles and pull them. Not a big deal.


Other good go-to dances are known to me, or I somewhat automatically 
recognise dances for certain characteristics as I review the collection 
titles or body manually (computer or binder.) Again no big deal.


Going beyond the collection and heading to programming - at a dance (or 
before) I'll often pull the "cards" I might use, maybe do a physical 
sort by perceived overall difficulty (for the event audience) or 
possible sequence (then spares). Then I hand-print a program page with a 
pick-list of titles in a right-hand column. I tend to code them to 
remind me of the set formation (for non-MUC), significant 
characteristic(s) or figure(s). Then when I've called them (and entered 
them in the main body) I'll stroke them out in that column.


Works for me, both for a record, and a program planning aid for before 
and during.


So much of all this kind of breakdown relates to how one approaches 
things, how we perceive or see them, our own organisation style, how 
much of what kind of work we wish to do, or how much chaos we'll 
tolerate, etc.


Enjoy learning about your own process.

Cheers, John
- not a luddite
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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Don Veino via Callers]

Hi Esther,

Such a move is in my Greenfield Tornado dance. Choreo and a video link is
on my blog post . I'm not aware of any other
dance until now which used this combination, but would be happy to give
credit to a prior pioneer.

-Don

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into
> Allemande Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen
> it somewhere, but I can't remember where.

[Callers] I think this might work....

[Kelsey Hartman via Callers]

Hi! Had an idea and wanted to share it with y'all!

Venturing Vortices
Improper by Kelsey Hartman 3.18.2017
{Started out as a dance written for the Ides of March (called Berkeley
dance 3.15.2017) called "Take a Stab at It,"
​
(Sharon Gavin suggested the title)
​
but the B1's timing didn't quite work. Loved the flow of the A1 and A2 so
re-wrote the ending and renamed it.}
A1: (16) Balance the ring and jersey twirl to swing neighbor
A2: (16) Gents start 1/2 hey and ladies ricochet back to partner SWING
B1: (16) (eFace away from partner) pass Shadow #1 by left, Shadow #2 by
right, LEFT shoulder round Shadow #3, RETURN pass #2 by right, #1 by left
B2: (8) Circle Left with partner and current neighbors 3/4, CA twirl and
(8) Circle Right 1x around (move it!)

Would love comments...thanks, Dan Veino for sharing the jersey twirl...

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[Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Esther Fraser via Callers]

Hey folks,

Has anyone seen this dance already?

A1: Balance the ring & petronella
   Ladies Chain
A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
B1: Ladies Chain
  P Allemande L
B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
   Balance the ring & California twirl

Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande
Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it
somewhere, but I can't remember where.

Thanks,
Esther Fraser

Re: [Callers] How do you organize your Dance Card Boxes ? Categories or Other Suggestions ?

[April Blum via Callers]

As you know, contra dancers on this side of the pond have little or no patience 
for dances without at least a partner swing. In fact I hear complaints if there 
are too many dances in an evening that don't also include a neighbor swing. 
Dances like Illegal in Most States, with a neighbor, shadow, and partner swing, 
are much more popular and well received. A dance with no swings, or with a 
neighbor only swing, would prompt immediate unhappy feedback from the floor. 
Just a different set of expectations. 

Chorus Jig is the only familiar dance I can think of that doesn't leave you 
next to your partner on the side of the set at any point. Many younger dancers 
I know don't consider it a "real" contra, and find its lack of swings 
frustrating. (When it's called at Glen Echo [rarely], many 2s add a swing in 
the middle of the set while the 1s go down the outside, and often a second 
swing while the 1s swing in B2.) On Apr 10, 2017 4:25 AM, John Sweeney via 
Callers  wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
> My categories are a little different: 
> Dances I want to try once I am calling for a group that can handle them 
> Dances for beginners 
> My current set of favourite dances which I will use for most gigs 
> Dances to fall back on when something doesn't work 
> Chestnuts and other traditional dances 
> Contra style dances in other formations (Triple Minor, Double Contra, Hex, 
> etc.) 
> Everything else is in alphabetical order - otherwise how can you find them? 
> - I work out which ones I want from my database 
> Then there are lots more categories for all the other genres I call 
>
> The stuff in alphabetical order doesn't get used as much.  I would rather 
> use great dances.  Most dancers are very happy to dance the favourites 
> regularly. 
>
> I get very bored with dances which go "swing, circle 3/4, swing" or "swing, 
> someone Allemande 1 & 1/2, swing" and very rarely use them now unless the 
> other half of the dance is stunning. 
>
> April said, "I believe that at some point in every dance, you and your 
> partner are on the same side, usually swinging, so from that perspective all 
> dances can start in Becket". 
>
> But dances can be: 
> Partner Swing only 
> Neighbour Swing only 
> Partner & Neighbour Swing 
> No Swing 
>
> And the Partner Swing doesn't have to be on the side - it could be #1s 
> swinging in the middle (or in an old dance everyone swinging in the middle) 
>
> So, no, they are not all Becket! 
>
> I use quite a few No Swing dances and everyone seems happy to do them - 
> though attitudes are somewhat different on this side of the pond. 
>
> Does anyone use No Swing contras at American contra dances? 
>
> Happy dancing, 
> John 
>
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Re: [Callers] How do you organize your Dance Card Boxes ? Categories or Other Suggestions ?

[April Blum via Callers]

Tom's classic The Tease. Anything with a dolphin hey. Many chestnuts. On Apr 
10, 2017 9:29 AM, Harold Watson via Callers  
wrote:
>
> Interesting. Would you please define unequal dances, maybe give an example? 
>
> Harold Watson 
> Fayetteville Traditional Dance Society 
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Callers [mailto:callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of 
> Tom Hinds via Callers 
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:58 AM 
> To: April Blum  
> Cc: Cheryl Joyal via Callers  
> Subject: Re: [Callers] How do you organize your Dance Card Boxes ? 
> Categories or Other Suggestions ? 
>
>
> On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:32 PM, April Blum via Callers wrote: 
>
> > I believe that at some point in every dance, you and your partner are 
> > on the same side, usually swinging, so from that perspective all 
> > dances can start in Becket, just depends on where you decide A1 is. So 
> > I would not find dances that begin in Becket a useful category. 
> > 
>
> Actually not all can start in Becket. 
>
> How about a category for unequal dances?  They can serve a purpose from time 
> to time. 
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Re: [Callers] How do you organize your Dance Card Boxes ? Categories or Other Suggestions ?

[Harold Watson via Callers]

Interesting. Would you please define unequal dances, maybe give an example?

Harold Watson
Fayetteville Traditional Dance Society

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From: Callers [mailto:callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of
Tom Hinds via Callers
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:58 AM
To: April Blum 
Cc: Cheryl Joyal via Callers 
Subject: Re: [Callers] How do you organize your Dance Card Boxes ?
Categories or Other Suggestions ?


On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:32 PM, April Blum via Callers wrote:

> I believe that at some point in every dance, you and your partner are 
> on the same side, usually swinging, so from that perspective all 
> dances can start in Becket, just depends on where you decide A1 is. So 
> I would not find dances that begin in Becket a useful category.
>

Actually not all can start in Becket.

How about a category for unequal dances?  They can serve a purpose from time
to time.

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Re: [Callers] How do you organize your Dance Card Boxes ? Categories or Other Suggestions ?

[Tom Hinds via Callers]

On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:32 PM, April Blum via Callers wrote:

I believe that at some point in every dance, you and your partner  
are on the same side, usually swinging, so from that perspective  
all dances can start in Becket, just depends on where you decide A1  
is. So I would not find dances that begin in Becket a useful category.




Actually not all can start in Becket.

How about a category for unequal dances?  They can serve a purpose  
from time to time.

Re: [Callers] How do you organize your Dance Card Boxes ? Categories or Other Suggestions ?

[John Sweeney via Callers]

Hi all,
My categories are a little different:
Dances I want to try once I am calling for a group that can handle them
Dances for beginners
My current set of favourite dances which I will use for most gigs
Dances to fall back on when something doesn't work
Chestnuts and other traditional dances
Contra style dances in other formations (Triple Minor, Double Contra, Hex,
etc.)
Everything else is in alphabetical order - otherwise how can you find them?
- I work out which ones I want from my database
Then there are lots more categories for all the other genres I call

The stuff in alphabetical order doesn't get used as much.  I would rather
use great dances.  Most dancers are very happy to dance the favourites
regularly.

I get very bored with dances which go "swing, circle 3/4, swing" or "swing,
someone Allemande 1 & 1/2, swing" and very rarely use them now unless the
other half of the dance is stunning.

April said, "I believe that at some point in every dance, you and your
partner are on the same side, usually swinging, so from that perspective all
dances can start in Becket".

But dances can be:
Partner Swing only
Neighbour Swing only
Partner & Neighbour Swing
No Swing

And the Partner Swing doesn't have to be on the side - it could be #1s
swinging in the middle (or in an old dance everyone swinging in the middle)

So, no, they are not all Becket!

I use quite a few No Swing dances and everyone seems happy to do them -
though attitudes are somewhat different on this side of the pond.

Does anyone use No Swing contras at American contra dances?

Happy dancing,
John

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