[Callers] My email was hacked

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The hacker sent something weird to almost everyone I have ever wrtten an email to.  Please don't open whatever junk might have come from me in the last 48 hours.  I've taken the appropriate steps with my internet service provider.THanks,Amy**Amy Carrolla...@calleramy.com206-330-7408http://www.calleramy.com/https://youtu.be/mTd_iyi3IcI
 
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[Callers] Pre school dances

[Amy Carroll via Callers]

There isn't a lot that will work well with just preschoolers and a couple 
adults.  Holding hands in a circle and staying in a circle is challenge.  I'd 
suggest really simple singing games because you can pause the music whenever 
you need to so they can follow the next instruction.  Dusty bluebells works. 
Freeze dancing.  The noble duke of York.  

Challenging to do that age w/o lots of adults or older kids. 

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[Callers] Is there a searchable archive for this list?

[Amy Carroll via Callers]

I'm not finding one and was just hoping**Amy Carrolla...@calleramy.com206-330-7408http://www.calleramy.com/

[Callers] Weary of the same discussions

[Amy Carroll via Callers]

I'm sorry, but it really isn't enough to just ignore the posts.  They fill my inbox and become another pile of stuff to filter through trying to find the email I really need/want to read.I feel as though this discussion happened already, quite recently, and it's just the same thing again.  No one is convincing anyone.  It all started with the simple announcement about a lecture, and then some snarky comments re sparked this entire discussion. Yuck.Questions:#1) Is it possible to recieve a daily digest of this list instead of each individual message?  Like you can do with yahoo groups.  Then I wouldn't mind all the junk so much.#2) Is there a facebook equivalent of this list?  Those are nice, because when you don't have time, you don't bother to look.  If you don't comment, you don't see the whole discussion unless you really go looking for it.  I would appreciate the discussion, even the repeated discussion,  that happens here a lot more if it were not in my email.  Other solutions?yours,Amy Carrolla...@calleramy.com206-330-7408http://www.calleramy.com/

Re: [Callers] Family dance questions

[Amy Carroll via Callers]

I'm an elementary music teacher and a dance caller and I run a family dance in seattle.  I just do elbow swings with kids - no way would I bother with ballroom.  I wouldn't explain giving weight.  Children will automatically try to crack the whip and lean back.  They automatically give WAY too much weight.  You need to tell them to BEND their elbows on 2 hand turns and explain the lack of medical expertise for dealing with concussions!  (I say this with a smile, but they really will send each other flying!Emphasize 8 beat phrasing, but don't count aloud, or they will all count out with you and drown out the music.  Best source of repertoire would be the Amidons dancingmasters.com  they've published several books.  Have fun!Amy CarrollOn August 4, 2015 at 4:10 PM Claire Takemori via Callers  wrote:Thank you for all the replies so far ! One other question, What are the key elements/movements that you would emphasize teaching with kids? giving weight, hearing the music beats, swing, star, do si do, allemande.. ? And I don't think they will do ballroom swing, so which swing is easy and fun for kids? 2 hands crossed? or right elbows? Thank you so much for your help! claire___Callers mailing listCallers@lists.sharedweight.nethttp://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net206-330-7408calleramy.com

Re: [Callers] Another approach to Gender Free calling

[Amy Carroll via Callers]

I'm feeling really thick in the head in reading these discussion thread.  How do you explain to the dancers who is a first corner and who is second corner.  How do you explain swinging and who should end in which spot?Isn't 1st corner and 2nd corner the way you are using them just another substitute for gents/ladies; jets/rubies; etc etc etc?Wouldn't new dancers be confused about being a #1 or #2 couple but also a 1st or 2nd corner at the same time?This seems super confusing to newer dancers, but I haven't seen the program you called.I'd love to know more.  It's very intriguing.Amy CarrollOn June 1, 2015 at 7:27 PM Ron Blechner via Callers  wrote:Jim,I think this approach is great for adding more dances with choice. ...but at some point, people want advanced dances and/or medleys, andlimiting the move-set I don't find an acceptable compromise.-RonOn Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Jim Hemphill  wrote:> Proper Dance, gender free yet not too simple> A1 Neighbor allemande left 1 1/2> 1st corners allemande right 1 1/2> A2 Scoop your partner as you go by, star promenade then butterfly> 2nd corners swing in the center, then separate> B1 Partner balance and swing> B2 Take hands in a ring, balance and petranella> Couple 2 swing in the center, end facing up>> Dances can have variety and challenges without gender reference. In this> dance, as long as you make clear in the teaching that after the neighbor> allemande left 1 1/2 if you are facing in, you are a 1st corner so you> allemande right, if facing out you are a 2nd corner, get ready to be scooped> you can end the swings any way you want.>> Ron, you are certainly right that not all dances can be easily taught in> this manner, but in no way are all of these type of dances simple. I> struggled with translating a "choose your noun" for ladies or gents because> that is how I learned and think about the dance roles. The translation> process adds a layer of complexity for me. I am just offering a different> approach that works for me.>> Thanks> Jim> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers>  wrote: RE: Dave: Clockwise / counterclockwise - too wordy, and some people have trouble>> with this regardless. Hey: What about on the left diagonal? Along the set? I also really don't like the blaming of the dance if it's not 100%>> intuitive. Plenty of dances flow great but have a counter-intuitive>> element. Restricting dances to those without counter-intuitive moves>> is basically saying, "Sorry, if we want to be genderfree, we need to>> put a cap on how difficult a dance is. Sorry genderfree dancers, you>> aren't allowed to dance too advanced." That's a big problem. Rollaways can *not* be handled from left to right - who does the>> rolling is not indicated at all! On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Dave Casserly>>  wrote:>> > Also with regard to Ron's questions, numbers 2 and 3 (who-leads-whom and>> > who-walks-forward) can be handled by using the terms "clockwise" and>> > "counterclockwise." As to 4 (who passes whom for a hey), I agree with>> > Bob>> > that if the dance is good, it should be obvious, but even if not, "pass>> > left>> > shoulders in the middle for a hey for four" can only be interpreted one>> > way,>> > so that fixes the issue of referring to roles. Roll-aways can be>> > handled>> > with "roll away from the left to the right" or "roll away from the right>> > to>> > the left.">> >>> > I'm not saying that it's perfect, but it is actually quite doable to>> > call a>> > dance without referring to roles at all, even without resorting to first>> > or>> > second corners.>> >>> > Perry asked for an example of a dance with global terminology used.>> > Here's>> > one (just picking a common, typical dance):>> >>> > Square Affair, by Becky Hill>> >>> > A1 Long Lines, 1st corners chain (or just say "chain" if you're dealing>> > with>> > experienced dancers and don't want to use the corners terminology)>> > A2 Balance and pull by partner, pull by neighbor, balance and pull by>> > partner, pull by neighbor>> > B1 New neighbors balance and swing>> > B2 Circle 3/4, partner swing>> >>> > Perry, you also mentioned that you are trying to figure out how global>> > terminology would work for proper dances. I have always called proper>> > dances using global terminology without even thinking about it. For>> > Chorus>> > Jig, for instance, why would you ever need to use the term "gent" or>> > "lady"?>> > Down the outside, back, down the middle, back and neighbor>> > around-the-waist>> > turn, 1s turn contra corners, 1s balance and swing. Nothing that any>> > particular role does that the other role isn't doing at the same time.>> >>> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Bob Morgan via Callers>> >  wrote:>>  >> With regard to Ron's questions>>  >> 1. Would be easily covered by 1st or 2nd corners 

Re: [Callers] Another approach to Gender Free calling

[Amy Carroll via Callers]

Jim - I don't think I am alone in wondering how you managed this without 
telling the dancers. I take that to mean you didn't make it gender free by the 
terminology you used (jets or whatever) but by the kinds of dances you chose.  
I'd love to read more details about what this entailed. 

Please share more!

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> On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:37 AM, Jim Hemphill via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> The recent discussions on this topic inspired me to try an experiment in 
> gender free calling.  Last night I called the contra dance in St. Louis using 
> gender free calling without telling anyone.The experiment was a great 
> success.  I received lots of  positive feedback on the evenings dance.  At 
> the break and after the dance I made a point to ask several dancers, some 
> were callers as well, if they noticed anything different or unusual about the 
> dances or how I taught them.   One person noticed that there were more dances 
> that included a swing in the center for couple 2 than usual.  No one I talked 
> to noticed that the calls and teaching were gender free.
>  
> It took some extra time to construct a fun, diverse 3 hour program, but it is 
> certainly possible.  Re-labeling the dancers is not the only way to call 
> gender free. 
>  
> If you are interested in the program I used or the larger collection of 
> gender free dances I chose the program from, send me an email,  
> arcadia...@gmail.com.
>  
> Thanks,
> Jim Hemphill
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Re: [Callers] monkey in the middle instructions?

[Amy Carroll via Callers]

And if you like patter calling you end it with "those four, swing four; there's 
a new monkey on the dance floor!"

I don't know if I made that up or got it from sherry.   I love this dance but 
it is very hard to get kids to go pick someone who is not already swinging. 
They gravitate to those already in the action.  It's great with all adults at 
weddings and such. 

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> On May 18, 2015, at 6:40 PM, James Saxe via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> The author of "Monkey in the Middle" is Sherry Nevins of Seattle.
> Her original version is slightly different from the version
> (collected by Lynn from Carol) in Val's recent message.
> 
>  Monkey in the Middle, by Sherry Nevins
>  9-person set: circle of 8, plus 1 in the middle
> 
>  A1 Circle left (8)
> Circle right (8)
>  A2 Into the middle & back (8)
> Into the middle & back (8)
>  B1 One in the middle, swing [some]one [Ballroom,
> elbow, or 2-hand swing.  Choose fast!] (8)
> Those 2, swing 2 [The swinging pair let go of each other, and
> each swing someone new.] (8)
>  B2 Those 4, swing 4 [Each swings one of the remaining five.  The
> left-over person becomes the ...] (16)
> New monkey in the middle.  [The other eight] join hands and ...
> 
> In a message I have from Sherry, she wrote (in 2011):
> 
>> ... I found a page
>> from late December 2003 or early January 2004 headed "9 Pin Var."
>> with the dance written out ...  It appears I first called
>> it (listed as "9 Pin Var.") at the South End Square Dance on
>> 1/30/04. On 2/1/04 it was written on the set list for the Family
>> Dance as "Monkey in the Middle".
> 
> Note that Sherry considers the formation to be a "circle" of eight--
> rather than a "square"--plus one extra person.  While Sherry got her
> inspiration from traditional versions of Ninepin Reel, her dance
> has no calls directed to "heads" or "sides", and there needn't be
> any presumption that swinging pairs will be in opposite gender roles.
> 
> Another thing that distinguishes the dance from traditional versions
> on Ninepin Reel is the sequence in the B part
> 
>  One in the middle, swing [some]one
>  Those 2 swing 2
>  Those 4 swing 4
> 
> with the person left over becoming the new "Monkey in the Middle".
> This contrasts with the usual method of choosing a new "ninepin",
> in which five dancers race to dance with four potential partners.
> The result of Sherry's method is that the person not chosen in one
> round of the dance gets to be the first chooser in the next round.
> 
> The pattern of having 2, then 4, then 8 dancers swinging is
> reminiscent of a "multiplication" (a/k/a "snowball") dance of
> the sort sometimes done at wedding receptions or used as an
> ice-breaker at teen parties.  I can remember seeing such dances
> in the 1960s, and I'm sure the idea wasn't new then.  But so
> far as I know, Sherry is the first to have integrated the
> multiplication/snowball idea into a version of the ninepin
> dance.
> 
> Sherry composed her dance as a 32-bar phrased sequence (though as
> you can see, her version is just a little different from what Carol
> apparently called at RPDLW).  Some of the people who have since
> spread the dance call it unphrased, for example Michael Ismerio
> as heard in this video:
> 
>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg2xx9tkxmE
> 
> Note also that Michael only has dancers go in and back once
> before the middle person starts the series of swings.  It didn't
> take many steps of folk processing to produce these differences:
> Michael tells me he learned the dance from Sherry.  While Sherry
> understands that once a dance is released "into the wild", the
> folk process will follow its course, I believe that if the dance
> is published anywhere, she'd like her original phrased version to
> be given.
> 
> The words
> 
>  ... swing one.
>  Those 2 swing 2
>  Those 4 swing 4
> 
> are the way Sherry calls the action in the B parts.  I use those
> calls also.  But during the walk-through, I explicitly tell the
> first swinging pair to let go of each other and each swing
> someone new.  I do that because the very first time I called the
> dance, I said "Those 2 swing 2 more" during the walk-through,
> and I saw some people swinging in a basket of four.
> 
> Note, by the way, that the dance adapts very easily to a 10-person
> version.  Just have two people in the middle each time and have
> them start the sequence of swings by swinging each other.
> 
> --Jim
> 
> On May 18, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Val Medve wrote (to the SharedWeight
> callers' forum):
> 
>> Hi all. Several folks asked me off-line for the Monkey directions. Here's 
>> Lynn Ackerson's note and dance instructions, with her permission -- and our 
>> thanks. And thanks, too, to Rich Goss for his even speedier reply to my 
>> request! Val
>> 
>> From Lynn Ackerson:
>> The [RPDLW 2015]