Re: [Callers] Four face fours

[Martha Wild via Callers]

I wrote this one (after some discussions with Chris Page about disorientation 
at the finish of an earlier version), and it works pretty well.

Diving Ducks Redux  4 face 4

A1  Lines forward and back
Dip and dive around the square*

A2  Continue the dip and dive
Women chain up and down the set

B1  Across the set, women allemande right 1 1/2 times^
Swing neighbor

B2  Men star left 1/2 way
Swing partner

*On the dip and dive, facing up and down, the couple on the right dives, and 
the couple on the left arches with the people they are facing. After the first 
dip and dive all face across the set and if you dove you arch and vv. 
Continue the dip and dive back to place. It is easier to think of it as if you 
are just dipping and diving around a circle, not straight up and down and 
straight across. 
^ The allemande is always done by the women in the same line.




FBL/DIP//CHW/ARW/SWN/STLM/SWP/
> On Jan 7, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Don Veino via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Below is one of mine from a similar series - the one of those I've called so 
> far. I'm going to test the other [B1 variation] shown here next time I get a 
> chance.
> 
> On your other questions, Lynne Ackerson's Coconut Cream Pie is a fave as it's 
> interesting yet bulletproof with mixed crowds (and I use it so much, I wrote 
> another dance leveraged from it to have some variation - Boston Cream Pie). I 
> also share your fondness for Rick's dance so I swapped bits of Up All Night 
> to generate one to pair for an alternating dance - Insomniac's Delight (Gents 
> Left Star, Grand L & R, See Saw).
> 
> Oceans 4 (DRAFT) - 4 Face 4 - Don Veino 20161204
> 
> Note this dance never converts to a square formation. Tune suggestion: Thomas 
> Shrug's March.
> 
> A1
> Give & Take (Up/Down), Gent take Neighbor Lady back and Swing
> 
> A2
> (4,4) Pass the Ocean (Up/Down), Wave Balance Fwd/Back
> [NOTE all Gents are on outside oval facing clockwise, Ladies are inside 
> facing CCW]
> (8) Simultaneously:
> Ladies in center (across) Half Hey (Ladies facing center start passing Right)
> *WHILE*
> Gents Circulate 2 Places (wrap around ends) [I TEACH/CALL THIS AS AN ORBIT 
> 1/2 to stay with more typical contra language for dancers]
> [Form similar Ocean Waves aligned up/down with Right Hand to same G 
> Neighbor]
> 
> B1
> Wave Balance Right (toward N) & Left, Neighbor Box the Gnat
> [Not yet tested variation: Balance Fwd/Back, N Allemande Rt 1/2x]
> Gents Allemande Left 1+1/2 (to P)
> 
> B2
> Partner Balance & Swing, end facing progression
> 
> First called at the Monday Contras dance in Concord, MA on Dec. 19, 2016
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Re: [Callers] Four face fours

[Colin Hume via Callers]

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 00:11:36 -0800, Martha Wild via Callers wrote:
> A1 Lines forward and back
> Dip and dive around the square*
> A2 Continue the dip and dive
> Women chain up and down the set

I'd prefer the ladies' chain after the forward and back.  That means the dip 
and dive fits into A2 instead of being the second
half of A1 and the first half of A2.  It also means you get to do the dip and 
dive with a different person each time instead of
with your partner every time - I don't know whether Americans would consider 
this a good thing or a bad thing.

Colin Hume

Email co...@colinhume.com  Web site http://colinhume.com

Re: [Callers] Four face fours

[Luke Donforth via Callers]

Andrea kindly pointed out that half hey where you're about to pass by the
left into a swing isn't the smoothest transition (without a balance);
something I missed.

I see a couple ways of shifting that, like replacing the chain with a women
allemande left 1.5; which is unfortunately their "non-standard" hand for
that. Another way to avoid a left shoulder to swing would be ditch the
lines of four and go straight into chain to facing neighbor then half hey,
with a balance and swing neighbor in A2.

My sense is that accessible 4x4s really benefit from the lines of 4 to
establish the set every time. Do folks have 4x4s that succeed smoothly
without that?

Thank you all for sharing thoughts and dances.

Revised version, with allemande:

A1 ---
(8) Lines of four, forward and back
(8) Women left allemande 1.5x (with one on slight left in facing couple)
A2 ---
(8) 1/2 Hey up & down, women passing right shoulders
(8) Neighbor swing (end facing partner, Women's line of direction; men
opposite initial facing.)
B1 ---
(8) Women's Chain up and down to partner, power turn to face trail buddy
couple
(8) 1/2 Hey across, women passing right shoulders
B2 ---
(16) Partner balance and swing

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Luke Donforth  wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> It's been a while since I've had enough folks at a house party to really
> walk through a 4x4 dance, so I'm sending this out for comment: I'm trying
> to increase my repertoire of accessible and entertaining 4x4s (my double
> reverse progression 4x4, etc, not qualifying)
>
> This one is in the "Midwestern Folklore" and "Will You Mary Me?" tradition
> of being two nearly identical halves.
>
> Plow and Cross Stitch
> by Luke Donforth
> Contra/Four Facing Four
>
> A1 ---
> (8) Lines of four, forward and back
> (8) Women's Chain up & down to facing neighbor
> A2 ---
> (8) 1/2 Hey up & down, women passing right shoulders
> (8) Neighbor swing (end facing partner, Women's line of direction; men
> opposite initial facing.)
> B1 ---
> (8) Women's Chain up and down to partner, power turn to face trail buddy
> couple
> (8) 1/2 Hey across, women passing right shoulders
> B2 ---
> (16) Partner balance and swing
>
> It could go lines of four again in B1, then the chain and power turn, with
> B2 being half hey and just a swing; but I figured try for the partner
> balance and longer swing.
>
> I'd appreciate hearing folks thoughts (too repetitive? too disorienting?
> basically X's dance Y), as well as your own favorite 4x4s; and why. My
> personal favorite is Rick Mohr's "Dance All Night", because you get a grand
> right and left in a contra.
>
> Take care,
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> luke.donfo...@gmail.com 
>



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Re: [Callers] Four face fours

[Bob Green via Callers]

Here is the one that you inspired, Luke:

 *Luke, Your Not My Father*   4X4 by Bob Green

A1 Long lines forward and back
 Swing your corner
A2 Sides face, Grand square (no reverse)
B1 With the one you swung, balance and box the Gnat and Pull by right,
 Pull by left, pul by right
B2 Balance and Swing your partner(end facing original direction -new corner)

http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/491-luke-you-re-not-my-father-by-bob-green-4x4

Bob Green
bobgr...@swbell.net
St. Louis


On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> It's been a while since I've had enough folks at a house party to really
> walk through a 4x4 dance, so I'm sending this out for comment: I'm trying
> to increase my repertoire of accessible and entertaining 4x4s (my double
> reverse progression 4x4, etc, not qualifying)
>
> This one is in the "Midwestern Folklore" and "Will You Mary Me?" tradition
> of being two nearly identical halves.
>
> Plow and Cross Stitch
> by Luke Donforth
> Contra/Four Facing Four
>
> A1 ---
> (8) Lines of four, forward and back
> (8) Women's Chain up & down to facing neighbor
> A2 ---
> (8) 1/2 Hey up & down, women passing right shoulders
> (8) Neighbor swing (end facing partner, Women's line of direction; men
> opposite initial facing.)
> B1 ---
> (8) Women's Chain up and down to partner, power turn to face trail buddy
> couple
> (8) 1/2 Hey across, women passing right shoulders
> B2 ---
> (16) Partner balance and swing
>
> It could go lines of four again in B1, then the chain and power turn, with
> B2 being half hey and just a swing; but I figured try for the partner
> balance and longer swing.
>
> I'd appreciate hearing folks thoughts (too repetitive? too disorienting?
> basically X's dance Y), as well as your own favorite 4x4s; and why. My
> personal favorite is Rick Mohr's "Dance All Night", because you get a grand
> right and left in a contra.
>
> Take care,
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> luke.donfo...@gmail.com 
>
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