Re: [Cameramakers] re: crackpot medievalists or creative endeavors?

2001-10-03 Thread J. Wayde Allen

On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 10/2/01 5:47:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 What is ABS plastic? 

Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene it is the stuff usually used to make black
plastic sewer pipe as opposed to the translucent white Poly-Vinyl-Chloride
(PVC) water pipe.

 Can I use that to build a lightweight super-large
 format pinhole camera?

I don't see why not.  You'd probably want to cut and glue sheets of the
material.  Best bet is to call a local plastic supply company and see what
they have to offer.  There are a LOT of options when it comes to plastics.

 ABS is the same plastic used in motorcycle helmets. It requires complex and 
 expensive molds to formand is not practical for a one off camera.

That is only true if you figure that you must work with injection molded
material.  You can always work with sheets of plastic much the same as you
would a piece of wood.

 I use a Walker Titan 4x5 camera that is made of ABS and love it.  I
 don't have to worry about rain or snow and can shoot when many other
 (probably smarter)  people have gone indoors.  Look at A
 HREF=http://www.walkercameras.com/index.htm;Walker Cameras/A for
 more information.

Yes, the Walker camera sounds pretty cool!  View Camera magazine had a
good review of this camera some time back.  

- Wayde
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Re: [Cameramakers] re: crackpot medievalists or creative endeavors?

2001-10-03 Thread lva

 Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene it is the stuff usually used to make
 black plastic sewer pipe as opposed to the translucent white
 Poly-Vinyl-Chloride (PVC) water pipe.

  Can I use that to build a lightweight super-large
  format pinhole camera?

 I don't see why not.  You'd probably want to cut and glue sheets of
 the material.  Best bet is to call a local plastic supply company and
 see what they have to offer.  There are a LOT of options when it comes
 to plastics.


Thanks, Wade!

Greetings

Brahma
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[Cameramakers] RE: Kydex

2001-10-03 Thread ken watson

Sid,

I took the bait and looked around for Kydex.

It looks like you are in New York, which distributor do you buy this stuff
from?
Is the one in CO?
Is this material opaque, even when very thinAs could I thermoform this
into a bellows?
Can I get this material with a metallic coating?

I have more questions but this should do for the moment.

I also ran across Kydex wall paper, NOW I find the stuff after my kids are
grown!!

..
..Message: 7 another excellent material is
..Kydex. It a PVC/acrylic alloy that comes in sheets in a useful range of
..colours
..

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Re: [Cameramakers] re: crackpot medievalists or creative endeavors?

2001-10-03 Thread Robert Stoddard

If you were to use a wide-angle (i.e., short focus) lens, wouldn't you have 
to use much less than 1/2 a sphere in order to have the lens close enough to 
the film to focus?  RKS


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In a message dated 10/3/01 6:07:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  You might also consider a
hemisphere;  

Bob -- This intrigues me.  How would you do it?  I am thinking of 8 X 10 
with
a wide angle lens.

Marty
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Re: [Cameramakers] Buy or build a viewfinder

2001-10-03 Thread Gene Johnson

Manuel,

The 5x7 aspect ratio is real close to 6x9.  I'm guessing that a
viewfinder from an old Kodak folder or something might work o.k. for a
cheapie.

Gene

 Manuel Estébanez wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 Where I can buy a viewfinder (cheap if possible) for my portable 5 x
 7' Zone Plate camera (under construction)?
 Zone Plate Focal Length (mm) = 180
 
 It is possible build it?. ¿How?.
 
 Thanks.
 Best regards,
 
 Manuel Estebanez
 Spain
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[Cameramakers] re: crackpot medievalists or creative endeavors?

2001-10-03 Thread Dave Robertson

I've been thinking about using my skills in building fiberglass/carbon fiber 
R/C sailplanes in this arena, having done this from scratch, including 
making the mold to cast a hollow FG/CF/Kevlar fuselage.  These materials 
provide for very lightweight and strong construction.  It seems much simpler 
to build the boxes for a field camera than a sleek, streamlined sailplane 
and all its compound curves.

I figure a carbon fiber, or a CF/kevlar weave, laminate would provide a very 
lightweight and rigid housing.  The mold would be simple to build as well, 
if you decided use one.  Maybe a CF/foam/CF laminate could be used to 
lighten things up even more.

If you oven cured it (which would not be difficult compared to the long wing 
spans of R/C sailplanes) then you wouldn't have to worry about undue heat 
absorption and could leave it unpainted if you like.

Granted it wouldn't have the natural beauty of wood, but I think you could 
possible shave a few pounds off an 8x10, and even more off larger formats.

Anyone out there given this a try?  Seems that I ran across a company that 
makes a composite LF camera somewhere, Ebony maybe?

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Re: [Cameramakers] Buy or build a viewfinder

2001-10-03 Thread Robert Stoddard

Hi Manuel:
  Why not build a metal-frame viewfinder similar to the ones which used to 
be used on Speed Graphic press cameras.  These simple finders were 
remarkably effective since they had parallax compensation and even 
field-size compensation, since the front frame was mounted on the moving 
lens panel and the angle of view was reduced as the lens was racked out to 
focus close. RKS


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Subject: [Cameramakers] Buy or build a viewfinder
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:27:36 +0200

Hi all:
Where I can buy a viewfinder (cheap if possible) for my portable 5 x 7' 
Zone Plate camera (under construction)?
Zone Plate Focal Length (mm) = 180

It is possible build it?. ¿How?.

Thanks.
Best regards,

Manuel Estebanez
Spain


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Re: [Cameramakers] Buy or build a viewfinder

2001-10-03 Thread Sam Wang
Title: Re: [Cameramakers] Buy or build a
viewfinder


I would use a one element lens, such as the ones from Edmund
Scientific, as long as it is close to the same focal length, as a
viewing lens. That is, put it on a lensboard and frame your image on
the groundglass. Then change it to your zoneplate and shoot.

Actually you might try stacking a couple of cheap reading glasses
lenses to achieve the approximate focal length, and if they are a
little off, the softness might resemble the zoneplate image. Reading
glasses are available here for a dollar a pair. This is a good way to
frame pinhole cameras shots too.

Other possibilities:
- masking down a cheap door-peephole viewer till it matches your
ZP angle
- using the viewfinder off a disposable camera, especially a
slight wide-angle
- the discontinued Kodak DISC cameras had very neat
viewfinders
- using a cardboard frame with a string to measure the correct
distance
- or best yet, use ZEN viewfinder by imagining the camera's point
of view. Don't laugh, I do that all the time.

Good luck.

Sam Wang


Hi
all:
Where I can
buy a viewfinder (cheap if possible) for my portable 5 x 7' Zone Plate
camera (under construction)?
Zone
PlateFocal Length (mm) = 180

It is
possible build it?. ¿How?.

Thanks.
Best
regards,

Manuel
Estebanez
Spain




Re: [Cameramakers] re: crackpot medievalists or creative endeavors?

2001-10-03 Thread MMagid3005

I'm sure you are right. -- Marty
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