Re: [Cameramakers] Movements vs. back dimensions for a field camera

2001-11-14 Thread Steve Goldstein

Yes, you're right about the movements.  After my last note
yesterday I went home and built a little mockup with cardboard,
tacks, and string, and realized just how much movement it would
take to cause the problem I had envisioned!  I should have
done that first, it would have saved a lot of bandwidth.

Lesson learned.  Now to start building that camera, a little
smaller now than I had at first thought it would need to be!

steve
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[Cameramakers] On-line Gallery Update

2001-11-14 Thread J. Wayde Allen


Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:56:28 -0700 (MST) Jodie Allen Wrote:

 The RMP Online Gallery has been updated.  You me see the new pictures
 at http://rmp.opusis.com/members/gallery.html or follow the links
 from the RMP page http://rmp.opusis.com.  Thank you to the people
 you contributed new pictures.

 Also, Neal Ulevich's pictures which were in the previous gallery have
 been moved to the Featured Artist Gallery
 http://rmp.opusis.com/feature/gallery.html.  If you haven't seen
 Neal's panoramics, go check them out.

I think Jodie only notified the specific list that supports each gallery.  
Figured that it might be worth letting all of the rmp lists now that both
the rmp and carbon 

   http://rmp.opusis.com/members/gallery.html
   http://rmp.opusis.com/carbon/gallery.html

galleries have been updated.  The general gallery page is
http://rmp.opusis.com/galleries.html.

- Wayde
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Re: [Cameramakers] optical glass

2001-11-14 Thread Joseph O'Neil

At 18:02 14/11/01 -0500, you wrote:
Does anyone know a good source for optical glass suitable for making
negative holders for 8x10 film?. Also need a opal piece for making the
light box.

 Sometimes, not always, but sometimes you can find such things at:
http;//www.surplusshed.com


joe





http://www.oneilphoto.on.ca
http://www.multiboard.com/~joneil

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Re: [Cameramakers] Idea for bellows support

2001-11-14 Thread george jiri loun

Wayde,
I remember my father, an inventor with ca 25 patents in several countries,
once saying to me - you will never replace bellows with someting else...
it's so old and yet the best.   Me too, I tried with balloons... no way! The
best I made  were telescopic antennas in the corners of the standards,
covered with black plastic. It worked surprisingly well, very elastic ...
but what advantage it gave in comparison to bellows?? It was havier, of
course, (because of the metal in it) and bulkier because of the irregular
folding of the plastic...
The reason, why bellows is the best solution is simple - it best imitates
the nature! Look at your wrist, the skin folding when you move it - and you
understand. You will never replace bellows with something else... George


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From: J. Wayde Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Cameramakers] Idea for bellows support


 On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, TSHACK wrote:

  I've been brainstorming on what I can use as an alternative to a folded
  bellows structure.

 I think that there may be several interesting possibilities.  I was
 talking with a fellow sometime back who supposedly knew one of the members
 of the Deardorf familly, and claimed that they had figured out a way to
 work pleats inside of pleats.  This allowed for good bellows movements in
 a compressed state while still allowing for relatively long bellows
 extension.  I wasn't able to get any more details, but it sounded like a
 sort of combination between a bag bellows with a compressible pleated
 section.

 Nothing saying that you have to use square or rectangular bellows (tapered
 or not).  There are always the bellows folds used for the construction of
 concertinas for instance
 http://www.concertinas.com/herrington_bros.htm#Bellows.  That would give
 you something akin to a round or hexagonal bellows design.

  One idea I had was to use these little retractable keychains, or id card
  holders.  The little plastic ones that have a somewhat strong return.

 That is pretty clever!  The one thing that comes to mind here would be
 that the material has to go somewhere as the structure collapes.  This
 might be prone to the material clumping up.

 A variation on this idea would be to make the side stiffeners using a
 piece of spring steel (piano wire or maybe those metal bands used to close
 boxes).  If you designed the structure so that the spring wall stiffener
 curves away from the center of the bellows it would compress and push the
 fabric out at the same time.

 Hmmm ... the guys talking about pressurizing their camera chambers could
 simply let the air push the bellows material out.  It'd be kind of like
 smushing a balloon.

 One could build a series of telescoping boxes or tubes in place of a
 bellows ...

 There are probably several other possibilities.  Those are just what comes
 to mind as I'm typing.

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Re: [Cameramakers] Idea for bellows support

2001-11-14 Thread MMagid3005
Wasn't it on this list a while back that someone suggested using flexible dryer vent tubing, the kind that is a spring covered with shiny metallic material? I was intrigued with that idea and bought some at a dollar store, but haven't tried it yet.

Marty