[Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i

2003-03-15 Thread Andrey Donchev
Hi, I'm new in large format photography and camera making. Actually now I'm
starting to build my first 4x5 folding camera. My question is:
Can I use a normal 4x5 sheet film with the Polaroid 545 or 545i film
holders?
Thank you in advance!
Andrey Donchev

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Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i

2003-03-15 Thread John Cremati
Why would you? Polaroid film holders are used for Polaroid film..(you would
wear it out prematurely using everything and anything.)  Standard film
holders are generally used for film or paper negatives..
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 Hi, I'm new in large format photography and camera making. Actually now
I'm
 starting to build my first 4x5 folding camera. My question is:
 Can I use a normal 4x5 sheet film with the Polaroid 545 or 545i film
 holders?
 Thank you in advance!
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Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i

2003-03-15 Thread Andrey Donchev
I'm asking because I do not know witch one film holder to buy, but someone
offer me a Polaroid one. I do not want to use instant film and I'm asking if
I can use this Polaroid  holder with a normal negative sheet film. I saw in
the Kodak ReadyLoad WEB page that the Polaroid 545i can use the Kodak
ReadyLoad sheet film but I readed bad reports about the Kodak system.
Andy


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 Why would you? Polaroid film holders are used for Polaroid film..(you
would
 wear it out prematurely using everything and anything.)  Standard film
 holders are generally used for film or paper negatives..
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 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:19 AM
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  Hi, I'm new in large format photography and camera making. Actually now
 I'm
  starting to build my first 4x5 folding camera. My question is:
  Can I use a normal 4x5 sheet film with the Polaroid 545 or 545i film
  holders?
  Thank you in advance!
  Andrey Donchev
 
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Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i

2003-03-15 Thread Robert Mueller
As was suggested in an earlier posting, there is no reason to use the 
Polaroid holder for normal film.  There is a standard type of holder which 
you should be able to obtain in any shop knowing anything about large 
format photography.  You should have several of these because each holds 
only two films until you can get back to a darkroom to remove the exposed 
film and replace it with unexposed film.  I do not even know how you would 
prevent premature exposure with normal sheet film because the Polaroid 
holders I know have no dark slide; the latter is part of the film.

They are often available used and can cost much less when used, but be 
careful to check for good condition (especially the light seals and traps.)
You may want to consider 9x12 cm holders, which externally have the same 
dimensions as 4x5.  Depending on traditions in your country, you may find 
one or the other more easily available, though in many places you can buy 
either one (though you may find a wider choice of emulsions in one or the 
other.)  You can more or less mix them because they both fit the same 
camera; you just want to be composing according to the film you plan to 
insert at the time of exposure!

Bob



At 17:10 15.03.03 +0200, you wrote:
I'm asking because I do not know witch one film holder to buy, but someone
offer me a Polaroid one. I do not want to use instant film and I'm asking if
I can use this Polaroid  holder with a normal negative sheet film. I saw in
the Kodak ReadyLoad WEB page that the Polaroid 545i can use the Kodak
ReadyLoad sheet film but I readed bad reports about the Kodak system.
Andy
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Subject: Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i
 Why would you? Polaroid film holders are used for Polaroid film..(you
would
 wear it out prematurely using everything and anything.)  Standard film
 holders are generally used for film or paper negatives..
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 From: Andrey Donchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:19 AM
 Subject: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i


  Hi, I'm new in large format photography and camera making. Actually now
 I'm
  starting to build my first 4x5 folding camera. My question is:
  Can I use a normal 4x5 sheet film with the Polaroid 545 or 545i film
  holders?
  Thank you in advance!
  Andrey Donchev
 
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Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i

2003-03-15 Thread Andrey Donchev
I'm from Bulgaria, and the large format Photography is not quite popular
here. I must purchase even the sheet film from Internet. So I'm just
searching for the best (easiest to manage) decision.
Something like Fidelity or Lisko film holders,
Kodak ReadyLoad (bad),
Fuji QuickLoad or ?
Can you give me an advice what to choose!
Andy



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Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i


 As was suggested in an earlier posting, there is no reason to use the
 Polaroid holder for normal film.  There is a standard type of holder which
 you should be able to obtain in any shop knowing anything about large
 format photography.  You should have several of these because each holds
 only two films until you can get back to a darkroom to remove the exposed
 film and replace it with unexposed film.  I do not even know how you would
 prevent premature exposure with normal sheet film because the Polaroid
 holders I know have no dark slide; the latter is part of the film.

 They are often available used and can cost much less when used, but be
 careful to check for good condition (especially the light seals and
traps.)
 You may want to consider 9x12 cm holders, which externally have the same
 dimensions as 4x5.  Depending on traditions in your country, you may find
 one or the other more easily available, though in many places you can buy
 either one (though you may find a wider choice of emulsions in one or the
 other.)  You can more or less mix them because they both fit the same
 camera; you just want to be composing according to the film you plan to
 insert at the time of exposure!

 Bob



 At 17:10 15.03.03 +0200, you wrote:
 I'm asking because I do not know witch one film holder to buy, but
someone
 offer me a Polaroid one. I do not want to use instant film and I'm asking
if
 I can use this Polaroid  holder with a normal negative sheet film. I saw
in
 the Kodak ReadyLoad WEB page that the Polaroid 545i can use the Kodak
 ReadyLoad sheet film but I readed bad reports about the Kodak system.
 Andy
 
 
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 From: John Cremati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 4:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i
 
 
   Why would you? Polaroid film holders are used for Polaroid film..(you
 would
   wear it out prematurely using everything and anything.)  Standard film
   holders are generally used for film or paper negatives..
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   From: Andrey Donchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:19 AM
   Subject: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i
  
  
Hi, I'm new in large format photography and camera making. Actually
now
   I'm
starting to build my first 4x5 folding camera. My question is:
Can I use a normal 4x5 sheet film with the Polaroid 545 or 545i film
holders?
Thank you in advance!
Andrey Donchev
   
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Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i

2003-03-15 Thread Robert Mueller
Fidelity or Lisco should be fine.   If you can easily enough pay, you might 
look at ebay, though I don't follow this item and can offer no assurance 
you will find any of those film holders.  My feeling is that with patience 
you have an excellent chance.  There are also stores selling used items and 
some offer Internet listings.  You might try 
Teamwork(www.teamworkphoto.com/)   or Mr. Cad (www.mrcad.co.uk/ ), both in 
London.  I have never dealt with either by mail and do not follow their 
Internet offerings except very infrequently so it is best for you to follow 
what they have for awhile, until what you want appears.   I believe I have 
seen used film holders in the Teamwork store, not cheap but well below the 
price of new ones.

I feel confident you can find other suppliers in other countries.

Bob

At 17:59 15.03.03 +0200, you wrote:
I'm from Bulgaria, and the large format Photography is not quite popular
here. I must purchase even the sheet film from Internet. So I'm just
searching for the best (easiest to manage) decision.
Something like Fidelity or Lisko film holders,
Kodak ReadyLoad (bad),
Fuji QuickLoad or ?
Can you give me an advice what to choose!
Andy


- Original Message -
From: Robert Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i
 As was suggested in an earlier posting, there is no reason to use the
 Polaroid holder for normal film.  There is a standard type of holder which
 you should be able to obtain in any shop knowing anything about large
 format photography.  You should have several of these because each holds
 only two films until you can get back to a darkroom to remove the exposed
 film and replace it with unexposed film.  I do not even know how you would
 prevent premature exposure with normal sheet film because the Polaroid
 holders I know have no dark slide; the latter is part of the film.

 They are often available used and can cost much less when used, but be
 careful to check for good condition (especially the light seals and
traps.)
 You may want to consider 9x12 cm holders, which externally have the same
 dimensions as 4x5.  Depending on traditions in your country, you may find
 one or the other more easily available, though in many places you can buy
 either one (though you may find a wider choice of emulsions in one or the
 other.)  You can more or less mix them because they both fit the same
 camera; you just want to be composing according to the film you plan to
 insert at the time of exposure!

 Bob



 At 17:10 15.03.03 +0200, you wrote:
 I'm asking because I do not know witch one film holder to buy, but
someone
 offer me a Polaroid one. I do not want to use instant film and I'm asking
if
 I can use this Polaroid  holder with a normal negative sheet film. I saw
in
 the Kodak ReadyLoad WEB page that the Polaroid 545i can use the Kodak
 ReadyLoad sheet film but I readed bad reports about the Kodak system.
 Andy
 
 
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 From: John Cremati [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 4:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i
 
 
   Why would you? Polaroid film holders are used for Polaroid film..(you
 would
   wear it out prematurely using everything and anything.)  Standard film
   holders are generally used for film or paper negatives..
   - Original Message -
   From: Andrey Donchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:19 AM
   Subject: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i
  
  
Hi, I'm new in large format photography and camera making. Actually
now
   I'm
starting to build my first 4x5 folding camera. My question is:
Can I use a normal 4x5 sheet film with the Polaroid 545 or 545i film
holders?
Thank you in advance!
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Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i

2003-03-15 Thread Marv Soloff




However, under certain circumstances you can use the Polaroid 545 and 545i
for Kodak single shot Readyloads and Fuji Quickload films. ?See the View
Camera Magazine website for more concrete information.

Regards,

Marv

John Cremati wrote:

  Why would you? Polaroid film holders are used for Polaroid film..(you would
wear it out prematurely using everything and anything.)  Standard film
holders are generally used for film or paper negatives..
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Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545 or 545i


  
  
Hi, I'm new in large format photography and camera making. Actually now

  
  I'm
  
  
starting to build my first 4x5 folding camera. My question is:
Can I use a normal 4x5 sheet film with the Polaroid 545 or 545i film
holders?
Thank you in advance!
Andrey Donchev

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Re: [Cameramakers] Polaroid 545

2003-03-15 Thread Samuel Tang
Hi Larry,

I often wonder if I am the only person left on this planet still using the
original Mido system, which is best described as a modern version of the
McKenzie-Wishart; even with a small camera bag I can carry my MPP, lenses and
enough loaded film for 12 pictures with ease.

Best,

Sam.

Larry  Pat Nieland wrote:

 I have not shot 4X5 for a while but when I was I always wished I had
 a 545 holder to go with the Fuji readyload films. - Carrying around about a
 dozen film holders and loading and unloading them is NOT my idea of fun!
 Properly utilized, the 545/readyload system makes for  lite weight and time
 savings!
 Regards,

 LARRY

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Re: [Cameramakers] Re: Cameramakers digest, Vol 1 #652 - 8 msgs

2003-03-15 Thread Marv Soloff




You can use them for the Kodak Readyload and Fuji Quickloads .

Regards,

Marv

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A quick note on the Polaroid holders use for standard film
You cannot use the Polaroid holders for standard sheet film. The holders
do not have the channels to slide the standard sheet film in. The holders
can be used with some quick load films.
 
 I have picked up several 4x5 sheet film on E-bay and I advise you to be
careful. Several were not in usable shape and were cracked. I advise buying
the plastic ones over the wood ones. The tape on the ends can be replaced
and make most plastic ones good as new.





[Cameramakers] McKenzie-Wishart

2003-03-15 Thread MMagid3005
What is it?

Marty
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Re: [Cameramakers] McKenzie-Wishart

2003-03-15 Thread Samuel Tang
Hi Marty,

The McKenzie-Wishart system was an alternative to double darkslides in
the dry plate era. Each dry plate was put into a light-tight envelope,
and instead of the darkslide, a special holder was used. The envelope is
inserted into the holder, where it is opened and the plate put into
position ready for exposure, then the envelope can be closed up and
withdrawn.

The original Mido system was pretty much the same, of course the
envelopes were made for sheet films and were double-sided.

Best,

Sam.


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 What is it?

 Marty

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