Re: [Care2002-developers] notice

2013-09-10 Thread Gjergj Sheldija
hi David

you really did a great job with the added modules.
specially the telephony integration.. did you go with the asterisk API ?

if you want to merge your changes i'd me more than pleased to
give you write access to the main repo. just sent me a private mail.

regarding the new code. we have some scratched ideas and some
hacks. nothing serious. zf2 is still too fresh and there are no good practices
for big projects around.

regarding the orm, we did go with doctrine, and wrote all the orm classes
for the current db structure.

regards
gj.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:35 PM, David Sarmiento Q. dorphal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all!

 I was very excited when I recieved this email about the new codebase. I've
 been using care since the early 2000s and have done an improved appointment
 module (fit for a callcenter), Rheumatology EMR and a couple of
 administrative reports, and I also telephony integration.

 I think the new code base is a great idea, and I would like to know if there
 is any kind of architectural document  of the whole project.

 In my opinion,  we should this document should be the first deliverable for
 the new project,  this will not only keep us  who want to contribute
 codewise to the project aligned with the vision of the product everybody
 had, but it also will help with responsability assignment and schedule
 tracking.

 I would say we need at least a class diagram, some sequence diagrams (so the
 class diagram is validated) and all the use cases we can come up with.

 I also believe that we should not only consider ZF2, but we should also
 bring an ORM into the project, so we can have a truly database agnostic
 application (and it also helps keep the code cleaner, with less sql lying
 around). In my experience there are only two decent ORMs for PHP, Doctrine
 and Propel. Of these, Doctrine is the most widely used with ZF2.

 Please let me know when the google hangout is going to be, I'm definitely
 in.


 David S.



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Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 75, Issue 2

2013-09-10 Thread coolman coolx
Good to know that discussion is really picking up again!

David, some nice integration you did there. Is it possible you share your
code? Those with current deployment can use it till the new version comes
out. What do you think?
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 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:35:03 -0500
 From: David Sarmiento Q. dorphal...@gmail.com
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 Hi all!

 I was very excited when I recieved this email about the new codebase. I've
 been using care since the early 2000s and have done an improved appointment
 module (fit for a callcenter), Rheumatology EMR and a couple of
 administrative reports, and I also telephony integration.

 I think the new code base is a great idea, and I would like to know if
 there is any kind of architectural document  of the whole project.

 In my opinion,  we should this document should be the first deliverable for
 the new project,  this will not only keep us  who want to contribute
 codewise to the project aligned with the vision of the product everybody
 had, but it also will help with responsability assignment and schedule
 tracking.

 I would say we need at least a class diagram, some sequence diagrams (so
 the class diagram is validated) and all the use cases we can come up with.

 I also believe that we should not only consider ZF2, but we should also
 bring an ORM into the project, so we can have a truly database agnostic
 application (and it also helps keep the code cleaner, with less sql lying
 around). In my experience there are only two decent ORMs for PHP, Doctrine
 and Propel. Of these, Doctrine is the most widely used with ZF2.

 Please let me know when the google hangout is going to be, I'm definitely
 in.


 David S.
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 Hi David,

 I'm interested in Rheumatology EMR module and other adds you made at
 system.

 I'm trying to get code of functional Care2000 to install for a project I
 get now.

 ?Where do you live and where you have installed system?

 I'm in Mexico.

 TY

 Enrique


 2013/9/9 David Sarmiento Q. dorphal...@gmail.com

  Hi all!
 
  I was very excited when I recieved this email about the new codebase.
 I've
  been using care since the early 2000s and have done an improved
 appointment
  module (fit for a callcenter), Rheumatology EMR and a couple of
  administrative reports, and I also telephony integration.
 
  I think the new code base is a great idea, and I would like to know if
  there is any kind of architectural document  of the whole project.
 
  In my opinion,  we should this document should be the first deliverable
  for the new project,  this will not only keep us  who want to contribute
  codewise to the project aligned with the vision of the product everybody
  had, but it also will help with responsability assignment and schedule
  tracking.
 
  I would say we need at least a class diagram, some sequence diagrams (so
  the class diagram is validated) and all the use cases we can come up
 with.
 
  I also believe that we should not only consider ZF2, but we should also
  bring an ORM into the project, so we can have a truly database agnostic
  application (and it also helps keep the code cleaner, with less sql lying
  around). In my experience there are only two decent ORMs for PHP,
 Doctrine
  and Propel. Of these, Doctrine is the most widely used with ZF2.
 
  Please let me know when the google hangout is going to be, I'm definitely
  in.
 
 
  David S.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [Care2002-developers] notice

2013-09-10 Thread David Sarmiento Q.
Gergj,

I think it's worth our time to do the architecture of the new care, it will
save us trouble down the road.  I can start doing some use cases, and I
have a basic class diagram for the appointments module, since I was
thinking on redoing it. Let me find it and I'll share it on Google drive.

If anybody feels like helping me with the use cases, it would be greatly
appreciated.
Here's a link to an article about Use_cases
http://www.allaboutrequirements.com/2011/04/use-cases-for-beginners.html

Anyway, any dates for the hangout?

David
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Re: [Care2002-developers] notice

2013-09-10 Thread David Sarmiento Q.
Thanks Enrique !! Why don't you start modeling the EMR use cases and class
diagrams
On Sep 10, 2013 10:38 AM, Enrique Valderrama enri...@laentrada.com.mx
wrote:

 David, I can help you, I'm familiarized with UML diagrams. Tell me where
 can I start to help?

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 Gergj,

 I think it's worth our time to do the architecture of the new care, it
 will save us trouble down the road.  I can start doing some use cases, and
 I have a basic class diagram for the appointments module, since I was
 thinking on redoing it. Let me find it and I'll share it on Google drive.

 If anybody feels like helping me with the use cases, it would be greatly
 appreciated.
 Here's a link to an article about Use_cases
 http://www.allaboutrequirements.com/2011/04/use-cases-for-beginners.html

 Anyway, any dates for the hangout?

 David

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Re: [Care2002-developers] notice

2013-09-10 Thread David Sarmiento Q.
Argh. I forgot! I can upload the old code for the appointments, but its
based on care 1.x with some changes to the core classes to make them more
OO-friendly, and the code is MESSY. Since I did that when I started coding,
that's why I havent submitted it, I'd be ashamed to publish such a sloppy
code.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:29 AM, David Sarmiento Q. dorphal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gergj,

 I think it's worth our time to do the architecture of the new care, it
 will save us trouble down the road.  I can start doing some use cases, and
 I have a basic class diagram for the appointments module, since I was
 thinking on redoing it. Let me find it and I'll share it on Google drive.

 If anybody feels like helping me with the use cases, it would be greatly
 appreciated.
 Here's a link to an article about Use_cases
 http://www.allaboutrequirements.com/2011/04/use-cases-for-beginners.html

 Anyway, any dates for the hangout?

 David

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Re: [Care2002-developers] notice

2013-09-10 Thread Gjergj Sheldija
hi,
it s a bit more difficult that the use cases. if you have time for a
hangout during the week i d be pleased to have a chat on it.

regards
gj.
On Sep 10, 2013 2:30 PM, David Sarmiento Q. dorphal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gergj,

 I think it's worth our time to do the architecture of the new care, it
 will save us trouble down the road.  I can start doing some use cases, and
 I have a basic class diagram for the appointments module, since I was
 thinking on redoing it. Let me find it and I'll share it on Google drive.

 If anybody feels like helping me with the use cases, it would be greatly
 appreciated.
 Here's a link to an article about Use_cases
 http://www.allaboutrequirements.com/2011/04/use-cases-for-beginners.html

 Anyway, any dates for the hangout?

 David


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