Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x

[Tim Schofield]

Too much emphasis is placed on roles within open source projects. The
reality of open source is that the person who does the most work in
each part of the project is the real head of that role.

To be honest it came as a surprise to me that Elpidio was still
considered to be the project manager of care2x. In recent years the de
facto project manager of care2x has been Gjergj, with assistance from
Robert. It is great that Mauri is now putting energy and work into the
project, and that is why people are now regarding him as project
manager.

There is really no such thing as promotion or demotion within a
project, just those who do a lot of work, and those who do a little.

Thanks
Tim


On 27 May 2010 12:02, Claudio Torbinio  wrote:
> Hi Elpidio and carers
>
> As I can read, the team is done; well, I can see that , all the work
> spent by me, the IT localization and the three installation I have in
> Italy have zero weight in the decision process...
> What does it mean, never mind, I disagree, as IT professional and as
> Nurse prescriber, with this current Prj settings.
> Probably it' s time for me to leave the project, due to my demotion, I
> will go ahead with a legal GPL forking
>
> BR
>
> Claudio
>
>> Hi Elpidio,
>>
>> Kudos for the job well done up to the current version. I also want to
>> embark on enhancing the care 2002 version that I downloaded some years back.
>>
>> Folks anyone with both users and developers manuals in pdf will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Elpidio Latorilla
>> mailto:elpidio.latori...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hello all,
>>
>>     thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of
>>     care2x domains.
>>
>>     I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done
>>     any development work
>>     on this project in the last few years  and I don't see me working on
>>     it in the coming years.
>>     Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project.  I
>>     will still be listening to
>>     the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not
>>     be active anymore.
>>
>>     Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri
>>     Niemi. He is a doctor working
>>     for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the
>>     project since its beginning
>>     in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian
>>     version. In fact, their
>>     Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the
>>     project.  I believe that
>>     Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take
>>     over the task.
>>
>>     The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and
>>     maintenance of the
>>     websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert
>>     Meggle.
>>
>>     Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase.
>>
>>     Thank you.
>>
>>     Elpidio
>>
>>
>>
>>     
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>>
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>>     Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>>     
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Box 7741-00100
>> Nairobi-Kenya
>> Alt Email: chacha...@yahoo.com  /
>> jcha...@anu.ac.ke 
>> Cell: +254721994351 / +254733653109
>> Office Tel: +254 20 2527071
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x

[Mauri Niemi]

Hi Claudio,

I think one of the weaknesses of Care2x has been too many forking out and
customizing their own version. We need critical mass of developers to have a
competitive quality and people for support. Hope you would be among them
like I hope all others whom I have contacted in this list and privately.
Another is the focus. I believe Care2x has not so good market in richer
countries, where they have money to buy commercial software and support for
it. There are much less options in poor countries and more interest in this
software. It is also seen in all contacts in this list. They come from South
and Central America, Africa and some Asian countries. Most interested people
from Western countries drop out sooner or later. The progress of the project
is not fast enough for them.
I have shared with some developers a very common swahili word: pole-pole,
which means slowly. The good thing with that attitude is that we tolerate
more delays and problems. We need that attitude with the small resources we
have. We cannot make wonders quickly. But with persistance we get results.

Mauri



2010/5/27 Claudio Torbinio 

> Hi Elpidio and carers
>
> As I can read, the team is done; well, I can see that , all the work
> spent by me, the IT localization and the three installation I have in
> Italy have zero weight in the decision process...
> What does it mean, never mind, I disagree, as IT professional and as
> Nurse prescriber, with this current Prj settings.
> Probably it' s time for me to leave the project, due to my demotion, I
> will go ahead with a legal GPL forking
>
> BR
>
> Claudio
>
> > Hi Elpidio,
> >
> > Kudos for the job well done up to the current version. I also want to
> > embark on enhancing the care 2002 version that I downloaded some years
> back.
> >
> > Folks anyone with both users and developers manuals in pdf will be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Elpidio Latorilla
> > mailto:elpidio.latori...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of
> > care2x domains.
> >
> > I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done
> > any development work
> > on this project in the last few years  and I don't see me working on
> > it in the coming years.
> > Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project.  I
> > will still be listening to
> > the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not
> > be active anymore.
> >
> > Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri
> > Niemi. He is a doctor working
> > for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the
> > project since its beginning
> > in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian
> > version. In fact, their
> > Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the
> > project.  I believe that
> > Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take
> > over the task.
> >
> > The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and
> > maintenance of the
> > websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert
> > Meggle.
> >
> > Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Elpidio
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> > 
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Joseph M. Chacha
> > Box 7741-00100
> > Nairobi-Kenya
> > Alt Email: chacha...@yahoo.com  /
> > jcha...@anu.ac.ke 
> > Cell: +254721994351 / +254733653109
> > Office Tel: +254 20 2527071
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --
> >
> >
> >
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> > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>
>
> --
> Dott Claudio Giulio Torbinio
>
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x

[Claudio Torbinio]

Hi Elpidio and carers

As I can read, the team is done; well, I can see that , all the work 
spent by me, the IT localization and the three installation I have in 
Italy have zero weight in the decision process...
What does it mean, never mind, I disagree, as IT professional and as 
Nurse prescriber, with this current Prj settings.
Probably it' s time for me to leave the project, due to my demotion, I 
will go ahead with a legal GPL forking

BR

Claudio

> Hi Elpidio,
>
> Kudos for the job well done up to the current version. I also want to
> embark on enhancing the care 2002 version that I downloaded some years back.
>
> Folks anyone with both users and developers manuals in pdf will be
> appreciated.
>
> Regards.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Elpidio Latorilla
> mailto:elpidio.latori...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of
> care2x domains.
>
> I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done
> any development work
> on this project in the last few years  and I don't see me working on
> it in the coming years.
> Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project.  I
> will still be listening to
> the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not
> be active anymore.
>
> Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri
> Niemi. He is a doctor working
> for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the
> project since its beginning
> in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian
> version. In fact, their
> Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the
> project.  I believe that
> Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take
> over the task.
>
> The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and
> maintenance of the
> websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert
> Meggle.
>
> Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Elpidio
>
>
>
> 
> --
>
> ___
> Care2002-developers mailing list
> Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> 
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>
>
>
>
> --
> Joseph M. Chacha
> Box 7741-00100
> Nairobi-Kenya
> Alt Email: chacha...@yahoo.com  /
> jcha...@anu.ac.ke 
> Cell: +254721994351 / +254733653109
> Office Tel: +254 20 2527071
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x

[Joseph Chacha]

Hi Elpidio,

Kudos for the job well done up to the current version. I also want to embark
on enhancing the care 2002 version that I downloaded some years back.

Folks anyone with both users and developers manuals in pdf will be
appreciated.

Regards.


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Elpidio Latorilla <
elpidio.latori...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of care2x
> domains.
>
> I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done any
> development work
> on this project in the last few years  and I don't see me working on it in
> the coming years.
> Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project.  I will
> still be listening to
> the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not be
> active anymore.
>
> Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. He
> is a doctor working
> for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the project since
> its beginning
> in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian version. In
> fact, their
> Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the project.  I
> believe that
> Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take over the
> task.
>
> The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and
> maintenance of the
> websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert
> Meggle.
>
> Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Elpidio
>
>
>
>
> --
>
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>


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Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x

[Jess Pepito]

Hello All,

Thanks for all the information about care2x project status, im a php developer 
from philippines and I really interested project im willing to work on the 
development but unfortunately I just set aside the testing and development of 
this project because of the reason that Im not earning on this project, and 
that's the reason also for other developer who monitor this project, hopefully 
there are big hospital or organization who can fund this project that would be 
good... lots of developer will be able focus working on this project.  





From: Elpidio Latorilla 
To: care2002-developers 
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 9:56:51 AM
Subject: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x

Hello all,

thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of care2x 
domains.

I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done any 
development work
on this project in the last few years  and I don't see me working on it in the 
coming years.
Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project.  I will still 
be listening to
the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not be active 
anymore.

Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. He is a 
doctor working
for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the project since its 
beginning
in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian version. In 
fact, their
Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the project.  I 
believe that 
Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take over the 
task. 

The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and 
maintenance of the
websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert Meggle.

Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase.

Thank you.

Elpidio


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[Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x

[Elpidio Latorilla]

Hello all,

thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of care2x
domains.

I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done any
development work
on this project in the last few years  and I don't see me working on it in
the coming years.
Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project.  I will
still be listening to
the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not be
active anymore.

Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. He
is a doctor working
for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the project since
its beginning
in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian version. In
fact, their
Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the project.  I
believe that
Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take over the
task.

The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and
maintenance of the
websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert Meggle.

Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase.

Thank you.

Elpidio
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