Re: [Care2002-developers] xml-rpc libraries
Am Dienstag, den 22.07.2014, 16:26 +0100 schrieb t...@weberpafrica.com: Thanks Robert, any chance you can find some time to look at my other recent queries? I will. :) The issue here is that we might have to change care2x its workflow a bit. There is an overlap between medical processing and financial processing. Out of the perspective of an HIS (or MRS) I do see here processing what has to be filled with measurements for later reporting and analysis - out of the ERP part it representing values describing values on an invoice. For the East African version there was a so called front side billing implemented. It picked out the values of such services and linked it to an price list, result was an invoice to the OPD patient. On care2x 2.7 if ecombill is been used all these values has to be re-entered again (by an user role called billing officer). There are some different workflows what has to be checked out. As well as the processing that the patient will be transferred to another hospital and the (e.g.) CT-Scan will be done there, just results will be entered to care2x. Out of care2x perspective: No problem at all. Out of ERP/Billing perspective we do have quite another case. Maybe? I will make some ideas how that can be done. Robert -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] xml-rpc libraries
Hi Robert, Thanks for your reply. The system we currently have works well and is based on the great work you and your team did on the Care2x East African version. The problem is that the EA version has become somewhat disconnected from the main project and also has bugs that have been fixed in the main line. The work I am doing at the moment is an attempt to follow up on our previous discussions at Med-e-Tel etc on unifying the code base. To achieve this, functionality we have in the EA version must be brought in, and central to that is the ERP integration. It should be said that this ERP integration is entirely optional and is switched on and off by a configuration switch so those not wanting it don't have to use it. Also there is nothing stopping people from integrating any other ERP and our work should considerably help them in doing that. The code changes are not very intrusive. As far as billing an item goes the ERP doesn't care what the item is, just that an item is there that needs billing. What the ERP needs is a unique code that defines the item prescribed to the patient so that it can be matched up with the correct price list and the correct costing. Without this unique code I am not sure how any invoicing/costing can happen though I am open to persuasion if there is a way to do it. Your example of an outsourced CT-scan (where the patient pays the hospital doing the scan directly) would be solved by having a unique code shared with the ERP for an item that is not to be billed. That's all the ERP cares about. However it would be flexible enough to have a CT-scan code for the scan being done at the prescribing hospital. Yes there are workflow issues and my experience is that each hospital has its own unique work flow issues. A one size fits all solution will never happen. Where the implementer earns their money is moulding these workflows and the software together to form a system that works for that hospital. However without the software as a base this becomes impossible. The reason I am sending these messages to the list is to try and create discussion around this so that we can get the best result possible. It is also a requirement that those hospitals currently using care2x in one form or another should be able to easily transition to the new version. Thanks tim On 23 July 2014 08:25, Robert Meggle robert.meg...@care2x.org wrote: Am Dienstag, den 22.07.2014, 16:26 +0100 schrieb t...@weberpafrica.com: Thanks Robert, any chance you can find some time to look at my other recent queries? I will. :) The issue here is that we might have to change care2x its workflow a bit. There is an overlap between medical processing and financial processing. Out of the perspective of an HIS (or MRS) I do see here processing what has to be filled with measurements for later reporting and analysis - out of the ERP part it representing values describing values on an invoice. For the East African version there was a so called front side billing implemented. It picked out the values of such services and linked it to an price list, result was an invoice to the OPD patient. On care2x 2.7 if ecombill is been used all these values has to be re-entered again (by an user role called billing officer). There are some different workflows what has to be checked out. As well as the processing that the patient will be transferred to another hospital and the (e.g.) CT-Scan will be done there, just results will be entered to care2x. Out of care2x perspective: No problem at all. Out of ERP/Billing perspective we do have quite another case. Maybe? I will make some ideas how that can be done. Robert -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Course View Towers, Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road, Kampala T +256 (0) 312 314 418 M +256 (0) 752 963 325 www.weberpafrica.com @TimSchofield2 Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] xml-rpc libraries
The alternative to using the xml-rpc api is to update the databases directly and move towards having one database and one application, and idea I have suggested before. Tim On 22 July 2014 13:48, Tim Schofield tim.schofield1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have committed the xml-rpc libraries we used in the old East African version to the 2.7 branch and issued a pull request. I have put them in the same place under include/care_api_classes/ if this is wrong feel free to move them :) Thanks Tim -- Course View Towers, Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road, Kampala T +256 (0) 312 314 418 M +256 (0) 752 963 325 www.weberpafrica.com Twitter: @TimSchofield2 Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/ -- Course View Towers, Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road, Kampala T +256 (0) 312 314 418 M +256 (0) 752 963 325 www.weberpafrica.com @TimSchofield2 Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] xml-rpc libraries
Hi Tim, Am Mittwoch, den 23.07.2014, 14:53 +0100 schrieb t...@weberpafrica.com: The alternative to using the xml-rpc api is to update the databases directly and move towards having one database and one application, and idea I have suggested before. Mhm... I think I got the point. However, when I came back to the main question: How to declare generic/dynamical values on care2x with an unique ERP code that it can be assigned on ERP perspective. And other way round as well. I guess the real scenario might be that e.g. an lab test will be added on laboratory, but laboratory will not take care about the pricing at all. And that is the motivation of having one db and talking about one application. There is no longer any difference between care2x HIS and KwaMoja as ERP. There isn't much fear of that - it is a really complex step and I think it will be better when a HIS will do his job and an ERP should do its job ;-) But it is actually an option and a logically consequence given by reality we should think about, that is correct. I will try to describe another idea I do have in my mind. Send a message and move on day business. Having a 3rd instance, something in the middle? Let's call it service broker... just to have an imagination what is going on in my mind. No matter where a new element is been created, Service Broker will ensure that it is correctly created/updated/deleted on the other side or give a warning back. So I indeed pick up the idea of xml-rpc again, but on a new instance. We have always transparency - and even the conceptual model of a distributed system (if the accounting is decentralized and administrate several hospitals - like it is been called in East Africa dispencery). As well as that a lab could assign a new test or service or disable it. Like now it is in real time on his screen. Pricing is another story what will be decided by another group of person. If you - basically - feel comfortable with this vision, we might could go one step ahead and think about its concept. Just an idea. Cheers Robert -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
[Care2002-developers] xml-rpc libraries
Hi, I have committed the xml-rpc libraries we used in the old East African version to the 2.7 branch and issued a pull request. I have put them in the same place under include/care_api_classes/ if this is wrong feel free to move them :) Thanks Tim -- Course View Towers, Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road, Kampala T +256 (0) 312 314 418 M +256 (0) 752 963 325 www.weberpafrica.com @TimSchofield2 Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] xml-rpc libraries
Hi Tim, Am Dienstag, den 22.07.2014, 13:58 +0100 schrieb t...@weberpafrica.com: Hi, I have committed the xml-rpc libraries we used in the old East African version to the 2.7 branch and issued a pull request. I have put them in the same place under include/care_api_classes/ if this is wrong feel free to move them :) Great! Thanks! I will check it Robert -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] xml-rpc libraries
Thanks Robert, any chance you can find some time to look at my other recent queries? Thanks Tim On 22 July 2014 14:15, Robert Meggle robert.meg...@care2x.org wrote: Hi Tim, Am Dienstag, den 22.07.2014, 13:58 +0100 schrieb t...@weberpafrica.com: Hi, I have committed the xml-rpc libraries we used in the old East African version to the 2.7 branch and issued a pull request. I have put them in the same place under include/care_api_classes/ if this is wrong feel free to move them :) Great! Thanks! I will check it Robert -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Course View Towers, Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road, Kampala T +256 (0) 312 314 418 M +256 (0) 752 963 325 www.weberpafrica.com @TimSchofield2 Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
