Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x
Too much emphasis is placed on roles within open source projects. The reality of open source is that the person who does the most work in each part of the project is the real head of that role. To be honest it came as a surprise to me that Elpidio was still considered to be the project manager of care2x. In recent years the de facto project manager of care2x has been Gjergj, with assistance from Robert. It is great that Mauri is now putting energy and work into the project, and that is why people are now regarding him as project manager. There is really no such thing as promotion or demotion within a project, just those who do a lot of work, and those who do a little. Thanks Tim On 27 May 2010 12:02, Claudio Torbinio claudiogiu...@email.it wrote: Hi Elpidio and carers As I can read, the team is done; well, I can see that , all the work spent by me, the IT localization and the three installation I have in Italy have zero weight in the decision process... What does it mean, never mind, I disagree, as IT professional and as Nurse prescriber, with this current Prj settings. Probably it' s time for me to leave the project, due to my demotion, I will go ahead with a legal GPL forking BR Claudio Hi Elpidio, Kudos for the job well done up to the current version. I also want to embark on enhancing the care 2002 version that I downloaded some years back. Folks anyone with both users and developers manuals in pdf will be appreciated. Regards. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Elpidio Latorilla elpidio.latori...@gmail.com mailto:elpidio.latori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of care2x domains. I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done any development work on this project in the last few years and I don't see me working on it in the coming years. Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project. I will still be listening to the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not be active anymore. Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. He is a doctor working for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the project since its beginning in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian version. In fact, their Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the project. I believe that Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take over the task. The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and maintenance of the websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert Meggle. Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase. Thank you. Elpidio -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Joseph M. Chacha Box 7741-00100 Nairobi-Kenya Alt Email: chacha...@yahoo.com mailto:chacha...@yahoo.com / jcha...@anu.ac.ke mailto:jcha...@anu.ac.ke Cell: +254721994351 / +254733653109 Office Tel: +254 20 2527071 -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Dott Claudio Giulio Torbinio I-CGCT // VAR532 http://status.ivao.aero/313392.png --- http://cgt.altervista.org http://www.wix.com/holyghostpro/CGT http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudiotorbinio http://www.digitalhealthcare.info http://www.keysolution.es --- c...@keysolution.es claudiogiu...@email.it --- callto://claudio.giulio.torbinio mobile: +393339925580 --- Riservatezza In ottemperanza al D.Lgs. n. 196 del 30/6/2003 in materia di protezione dei dati personali,le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono strettamente riservate ed esclusivamente indirizzate al destinatario indicato (oppure alla persona responsabile di rimetterlo al destinatario). Vogliate tener presente che qualsiasi uso, riproduzione o divulgazione di questo messaggio è vietato. Nel caso in cui aveste ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, vogliate cortesemente avvertire il mittente inviando una email a claudiogiu...@email.it o telefonando al n. +393339925580 e distruggere il presente messaggio. Confidentiality According to Italian law D.Lgs. 196/2003 concerning
Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x
Hi Elpidio, Kudos for the job well done up to the current version. I also want to embark on enhancing the care 2002 version that I downloaded some years back. Folks anyone with both users and developers manuals in pdf will be appreciated. Regards. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Elpidio Latorilla elpidio.latori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of care2x domains. I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done any development work on this project in the last few years and I don't see me working on it in the coming years. Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project. I will still be listening to the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not be active anymore. Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. He is a doctor working for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the project since its beginning in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian version. In fact, their Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the project. I believe that Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take over the task. The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and maintenance of the websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert Meggle. Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase. Thank you. Elpidio -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Joseph M. Chacha Box 7741-00100 Nairobi-Kenya Alt Email: chacha...@yahoo.com / jcha...@anu.ac.ke Cell: +254721994351 / +254733653109 Office Tel: +254 20 2527071 -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x
Hi Elpidio and carers As I can read, the team is done; well, I can see that , all the work spent by me, the IT localization and the three installation I have in Italy have zero weight in the decision process... What does it mean, never mind, I disagree, as IT professional and as Nurse prescriber, with this current Prj settings. Probably it' s time for me to leave the project, due to my demotion, I will go ahead with a legal GPL forking BR Claudio Hi Elpidio, Kudos for the job well done up to the current version. I also want to embark on enhancing the care 2002 version that I downloaded some years back. Folks anyone with both users and developers manuals in pdf will be appreciated. Regards. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Elpidio Latorilla elpidio.latori...@gmail.com mailto:elpidio.latori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of care2x domains. I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done any development work on this project in the last few years and I don't see me working on it in the coming years. Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project. I will still be listening to the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not be active anymore. Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. He is a doctor working for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the project since its beginning in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian version. In fact, their Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the project. I believe that Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take over the task. The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and maintenance of the websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert Meggle. Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase. Thank you. Elpidio -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Joseph M. Chacha Box 7741-00100 Nairobi-Kenya Alt Email: chacha...@yahoo.com mailto:chacha...@yahoo.com / jcha...@anu.ac.ke mailto:jcha...@anu.ac.ke Cell: +254721994351 / +254733653109 Office Tel: +254 20 2527071 -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Dott Claudio Giulio Torbinio I-CGCT // VAR532 http://status.ivao.aero/313392.png --- http://cgt.altervista.org http://www.wix.com/holyghostpro/CGT http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudiotorbinio http://www.digitalhealthcare.info http://www.keysolution.es --- c...@keysolution.es claudiogiu...@email.it --- callto://claudio.giulio.torbinio mobile: +393339925580 --- Riservatezza In ottemperanza al D.Lgs. n. 196 del 30/6/2003 in materia di protezione dei dati personali,le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono strettamente riservate ed esclusivamente indirizzate al destinatario indicato (oppure alla persona responsabile di rimetterlo al destinatario). Vogliate tener presente che qualsiasi uso, riproduzione o divulgazione di questo messaggio è vietato. Nel caso in cui aveste ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, vogliate cortesemente avvertire il mittente inviando una email a claudiogiu...@email.it o telefonando al n. +393339925580 e distruggere il presente messaggio. Confidentiality According to Italian law D.Lgs. 196/2003 concerning privacy, if you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please send email to claudiogiu...@email.it or call n. +393339925580 and destroy it. -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x
Hi Claudio, I think one of the weaknesses of Care2x has been too many forking out and customizing their own version. We need critical mass of developers to have a competitive quality and people for support. Hope you would be among them like I hope all others whom I have contacted in this list and privately. Another is the focus. I believe Care2x has not so good market in richer countries, where they have money to buy commercial software and support for it. There are much less options in poor countries and more interest in this software. It is also seen in all contacts in this list. They come from South and Central America, Africa and some Asian countries. Most interested people from Western countries drop out sooner or later. The progress of the project is not fast enough for them. I have shared with some developers a very common swahili word: pole-pole, which means slowly. The good thing with that attitude is that we tolerate more delays and problems. We need that attitude with the small resources we have. We cannot make wonders quickly. But with persistance we get results. Mauri 2010/5/27 Claudio Torbinio claudiogiu...@email.it Hi Elpidio and carers As I can read, the team is done; well, I can see that , all the work spent by me, the IT localization and the three installation I have in Italy have zero weight in the decision process... What does it mean, never mind, I disagree, as IT professional and as Nurse prescriber, with this current Prj settings. Probably it' s time for me to leave the project, due to my demotion, I will go ahead with a legal GPL forking BR Claudio Hi Elpidio, Kudos for the job well done up to the current version. I also want to embark on enhancing the care 2002 version that I downloaded some years back. Folks anyone with both users and developers manuals in pdf will be appreciated. Regards. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Elpidio Latorilla elpidio.latori...@gmail.com mailto:elpidio.latori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of care2x domains. I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done any development work on this project in the last few years and I don't see me working on it in the coming years. Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project. I will still be listening to the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not be active anymore. Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. He is a doctor working for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the project since its beginning in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian version. In fact, their Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the project. I believe that Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take over the task. The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and maintenance of the websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert Meggle. Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase. Thank you. Elpidio -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Joseph M. Chacha Box 7741-00100 Nairobi-Kenya Alt Email: chacha...@yahoo.com mailto:chacha...@yahoo.com / jcha...@anu.ac.ke mailto:jcha...@anu.ac.ke Cell: +254721994351 / +254733653109 Office Tel: +254 20 2527071 -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Dott Claudio Giulio Torbinio I-CGCT // VAR532 http://status.ivao.aero/313392.png --- http://cgt.altervista.org http://www.wix.com/holyghostpro/CGT http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudiotorbinio http://www.digitalhealthcare.info http://www.keysolution.es --- c...@keysolution.es claudiogiu...@email.it --- callto://claudio.giulio.torbinio mobile: +393339925580 --- Riservatezza In ottemperanza al D.Lgs. n. 196 del 30/6/2003 in materia di protezione dei dati personali,le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono strettamente riservate ed esclusivamente indirizzate al destinatario indicato
Re: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x
Hello All, Thanks for all the information about care2x project status, im a php developer from philippines and I really interested project im willing to work on the development but unfortunately I just set aside the testing and development of this project because of the reason that Im not earning on this project, and that's the reason also for other developer who monitor this project, hopefully there are big hospital or organization who can fund this project that would be good... lots of developer will be able focus working on this project. From: Elpidio Latorilla elpidio.latori...@gmail.com To: care2002-developers care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 9:56:51 AM Subject: [Care2002-developers] Domain names and future of care2x Hello all, thanks to all who expressed interest in taking over the ownership of care2x domains. I owe you all an explanation for the recent changes. I have not done any development work on this project in the last few years and I don't see me working on it in the coming years. Because of that I have decided to retire from the Care2x project. I will still be listening to the list and other communication lines of the project but I will not be active anymore. Furthermore, the project leadership will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. He is a doctor working for missionary hospitals in Tanzania. Mauri has been with the project since its beginning in 2002 and has been active in the development of the tanzanian version. In fact, their Care2x version is one of the most successful application of the project. I believe that Mauri will be the right project leader. He already agreed to take over the task. The domain names will be transferred to Mauri Niemi. The hosting and maintenance of the websites and other technical tasks will be done by Gjergj and Robert Meggle. Please excuse any disruptions during the transition phase. Thank you. Elpidio -- ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers