Re: [Catalyst] Beginner question: View directory
On 8 Nov 2007, at 20:22, Ash Berlin wrote: Similarly, I setup subs that I always want available in the TT stash, such as format_datetime (which formats a DateTime object according do the currently logged in user's preference.) I also accessing VMethods to $Template::Whatever::SCALAR_OPS here, since this seems like the place that such code belongs. a ha! which is the kind of issue where I was conflating with setting stash and session. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Beginner question: View directory
Dave Rolsky wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Kieren Diment wrote: Good call, my mistake. Goes to show that there's not usually much (or any) extra stuff that needs to be done in the View class. I was actually struggling to think of code related things (rather than config) which you might want to put in there. Personally I've always munged headers in the sub end : ActionClass(’RenderView’) {} subs (see perldoc Catalyst::Action::RenderView for details). I have a few bits of code in my view class, but not much. For the Mason view, I had subclass new() and chown() all the files created by the Mason Interp object to make things happy under mod_perl. Mason has this built-in to its mod_perl integration, but that doesn't get used with Catalyst. I also have a method has_template_for_path() which does what it says. I call this from some controller auto() methods where the URI in question is basically static content that doesn't need a separate controller method. -dave Similarly, I setup subs that I always want aviabale in the TT stash, such as format_datetime (which formats a DateTime object according do the currently logged in user's prefernce.) I also assing VMethods to $Template::Whatever::SCALAR_OPS here, since this seems like the place that such code belonds. -ash ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] [OT] Search Solution
Hi, On Nov 8, 2007, at 8:23 AM, Fayland Lam wrote: Sorry for a bit off topic. I just wonder how to build a search engine for a heavy traffic site? use KinoSearch or Plunce? or just get result from MySQL? If you are using MySQL, checkout Sphinx also. They have some interesting numbers on their site. Also check the http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/ site for Sphinx-related posts. Best regards, -- Pedro Melo Blog: http://www.simplicidade.org/notes/ XMPP ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use XMPP! ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] [OT] Search Solution
Other solution is Xapian Catalyst::Model::Xapian Pedro Melo schrieb: Hi, On Nov 8, 2007, at 8:23 AM, Fayland Lam wrote: Sorry for a bit off topic. I just wonder how to build a search engine for a heavy traffic site? use KinoSearch or Plunce? or just get result from MySQL? If you are using MySQL, checkout Sphinx also. They have some interesting numbers on their site. Also check the http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/ site for Sphinx-related posts. Best regards, -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Felix Antonius Wilhelm Ostmann -- Websuche Search Technology GmbH Co. KG Martinistraße 3 - D-49080 Osnabrück - Germany Tel.: +49 541 40666-0 - Fax:+49 541 40666-22 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Website: www.websuche.de -- AG Osnabrück - HRA 200252 - Ust-Ident: DE814737310 Komplementärin: Websuche Search Technology Verwaltungs GmbH - AG Osnabrück - HRB 200359 Geschäftsführer: Diplom Kaufmann Martin Steinkamp -- ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] [OT] Search Solution
Sorry for a bit off topic. I just wonder how to build a search engine for a heavy traffic site? use KinoSearch or Plunce? or just get result from MySQL? how those big sites build their search engine? like facebook, hi5, digg? use SQL to get results instead of build a file index like KinoSearch? anyone have any idea? Thanks. -- Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] [OT] Search Solution
Le 8 nov. 07 à 10:25, Felix Antonius Wilhelm Ostmann a écrit : Other solution is Xapian Catalyst::Model::Xapian There was a discussion on this topic not so long ago. I suggest to have a look at the list archive, some interesting discussion went on at that time David Morel ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] Directory layout
Thanks for the responses to my question about the View Directory. I'm still trying to figure out the reasons for the rest of the directory layout. The templates are not in the View directory, because the lib hierarchy is just for Perl code. Is that right? Is root kind of the equivalent of htdocs? What else would go in the static subdirectory besides images? Would you put css files in here? Does javascript go in static, or does it get a directory underneath root? Are any parts of the layout created by catalyst.pl changeable, or would it break Catalyst to rename them? If, for example, root was changed to htdocs, or you didn't use the static directory? Sorry for all the questions. I've been studying the documentation, but haven't had much like finding explanations for these things, and I'm not sure where to look in the code. Thanks, Gerda Shank ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Directory layout
On Nov 8, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Gerda Shank wrote: The templates are not in the View directory, because the lib hierarchy is just for Perl code. Is that right? Yes. The Model, Controller and View directories house the respective perl classes that handle those functions. Is root kind of the equivalent of htdocs? What else would go in the static subdirectory besides images? Would you put css files in here? Does javascript go in static, or does it get a directory underneath root? Before I say anything, let me say: The short answer is that you can set things up however you want. The 'static' directory is similar to htdocs. The TT view is configured by default to use the 'root' directory as it's path for templates. The static directory is a best practice, I usually put 'css', 'javascript' and 'images' in there. It's a good idea to put all your static files under a common directory when using mod_perl because then you can tell apache to use the default handler for all files under that path. Using mod_perl to serve images is Bad Mojo. It's probably also a good idea for a bunch of other reasons. Are any parts of the layout created by catalyst.pl changeable, or would it break Catalyst to rename them? If, for example, root was changed to htdocs, or you didn't use the static directory? You probably could to this, but the default layouts are sort of a best practice. I'd use the defaults until you understand them better. Sorry for all the questions. I've been studying the documentation, but haven't had much like finding explanations for these things, and I'm not sure where to look in the code. No worries. It's better than doing things wrong and then complaining. ;) -- Cory 'G Watson http://www.onemogin.com ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Beginner question: View directory
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Ash Berlin wrote: Similarly, I setup subs that I always want aviabale in the TT stash, such as format_datetime (which formats a DateTime object according do the currently logged in user's prefernce.) I also assing VMethods to $Template::Whatever::SCALAR_OPS here, since this seems like the place that such code belonds. For Mason, this just involves importing subs that I want into the relevant package, but it's a similar thing. Yes, this obviously belongs in the view as well. Of course, if you had enough of this for TT you might want to put it in separate modules. -dave /*=== VegGuide.Orgwww.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===*/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Directory layout
On 11/8/07, Gerda Shank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the responses to my question about the View Directory. I'm still trying to figure out the reasons for the rest of the directory layout. The templates are not in the View directory, because the lib hierarchy is just for Perl code. Is that right? Is root kind of the equivalent of htdocs? What else would go in the static subdirectory besides images? Would you put css files in here? Does javascript go in static, or does it get a directory underneath root? Are any parts of the layout created by catalyst.pl changeable, or would it break Catalyst to rename them? If, for example, root was changed to htdocs, or you didn't use the static directory? Sorry for all the questions. I've been studying the documentation, but haven't had much like finding explanations for these things, and I'm not sure where to look in the code. Thanks, Gerda Shank I put all my static files under static. Usually I have a directory structure like this: root/static/ root/static/js root/static/css root/static/images -- Jonas ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] loading modules before the server forks
Ok, thank you. I know how to load the modules, but I just wanted to know if all dependencies are loaded before server fork. Octavian - Original Message - From: Andy Grundman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The elegant MVC web framework catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] loading modules before the server forks On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: Hi, If I have a Catalyst application and I use PerlResponseHandler Application::Name in httpd.conf and I load that module in a startup.pl file, what happends with the modules that might be loaded by that Catalyst app? Are they also loaded before the server forks? Or I will need to load them manually one by one in the startup.pl? All you have to load is your application, i.e.: PerlModule MyApp Everything is then loaded before Apache forks any children. See the config example here: http://search.cpan.org/~agrundma/Catalyst-Engine-Apache-1.11/lib/Catalyst/Engine/Apache2/MP20.pm -Andy ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
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Re: [Catalyst] loading modules before the server forks
On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: Hi, If I have a Catalyst application and I use PerlResponseHandler Application::Name in httpd.conf and I load that module in a startup.pl file, what happends with the modules that might be loaded by that Catalyst app? Are they also loaded before the server forks? Or I will need to load them manually one by one in the startup.pl? All you have to load is your application, i.e.: PerlModule MyApp Everything is then loaded before Apache forks any children. See the config example here: http://search.cpan.org/~agrundma/Catalyst-Engine-Apache-1.11/lib/Catalyst/Engine/Apache2/MP20.pm -Andy ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] loading modules before the server forks
Hi, If I have a Catalyst application and I use PerlResponseHandler Application::Name in httpd.conf and I load that module in a startup.pl file, what happends with the modules that might be loaded by that Catalyst app? Are they also loaded before the server forks? Or I will need to load them manually one by one in the startup.pl? Thanks. Octavian ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] loading modules before the server forks
On Nov 8, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: Ok, thank you. I know how to load the modules, but I just wanted to know if all dependencies are loaded before server fork. Yeah, they are. Catalyst will load all your controllers, models, etc, and those will load all their modules, and so on. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Directory layout
On 9 Nov 2007, at 01:47, Gerda Shank wrote: Thanks for the responses to my question about the View Directory. I'm still trying to figure out the reasons for the rest of the directory layout. The templates are not in the View directory, because the lib hierarchy is just for Perl code. Is that right? Is root kind of the equivalent of htdocs? What else would go in the static subdirectory besides images? Would you put css files in here? Does javascript go in static, or does it get a directory underneath root? Are any parts of the layout created by catalyst.pl changeable, or would it break Catalyst to rename them? If, for example, root was changed to htdocs, or you didn't use the static directory? Sorry for all the questions. I've been studying the documentation, but haven't had much like finding explanations for these things, and I'm not sure where to look in the code. One slightly more exotic thing I've done is: in Controller::Root sub index : Private { my ($self, $c) = @_; $c-res-redirect('/static/ index.html');} sub ajax_method : Local { # do stuff for handling ajax calls from the static page above } So the answer is whatever you like :-) ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] Re: [OT] Search Solution
David Morel wrote: Le 8 nov. 07 à 10:25, Felix Antonius Wilhelm Ostmann a écrit : Other solution is Xapian Catalyst::Model::Xapian There was a discussion on this topic not so long ago. I suggest to have a look at the list archive, some interesting discussion went on at that time I searched http://lists.scsys.co.uk/pipermail/catalyst/, but don't find anything. could u tell me which month is it talked? Thanks. David Morel ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/