Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst-Plugin-Stacktrace 0.07 dist for testing

2008-02-02 Thread Matt S Trout
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 05:12:12PM -, Carl Vincent wrote:
 http://trout.me.uk/perl/Catalyst-Plugin-StackTrace-0.07.tar.gz
 
 especially if you've seen the bug.
 
 If it all looks good, I'll upload the new version to CPAN (and 
 if it turns out to be buggy and you -don't- test it now it's 
 your fault when your application breaks :).
 
 I was having trouble with this yesterday and you helped workaround on
 #catalyst. I've tried this new version with my troublesome code of
 yesteday and now the exceptions are working with and without
 Plugin::StackTrace enabled.

The thing is, the bit that was causing it is stringification, which I'm not
sure is really that useful for debugging.

Should we turn respect_overload off on Stacktrace (or off by default with a
config option if somebody wants to write that code?) ?

I'm actually tempted now to clean the module up a bit now people are
reporting it's fixed, since with my improved understanding of just how fucking
insane SIGDIE handlers are I think I can get rid of a bunch of code that
was supposed to make things safer but aren't strictly required :)

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Re: [Catalyst] catalyst book

2008-02-02 Thread Stefan Petrea
On Friday 01 February 2008 16:20, Jonathan Rockway wrote:

some people have done similar things.
maybe take a look here http://www.greenteapress.com/
they've written free books under GNU license and they charge
only for printed copies just as you say.

 * On Fri, Feb 01 2008, Matt Rosin wrote:
  Possibly companies that wish to give back to open source could
  contribute to a professional documentation fund. In this case digital
  publication will enable the money to be used most efficiently.
 
 Yes, this is a good idea.  We were talking about this on #moose
 yesterday and the idea of having TPF fund book writing via grants might
 be a good way to get docs.  The author gets $2000 for writing a
 half-length book (say, 150 pages), the community gets a freely-licensed
 book to do whatever they want with.  If you want a printed copy, you can
 donate money (say, $10) back to TPF.
 
 I will probably look into this more seriously in the near future.  Right
 now this is pure fantasy :)
 
 Regards,
 Jonathan Rockway
 
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