Re: [Catalyst] Alternatives to Catalyst ?

2010-04-23 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Kee Hinckley naz...@somewhere.com wrote:
 No argument there. I dearly wish the effort that had gone into Perl6 had gone 
 into [blah blah].

You're subscribing to the fallacy that volunteer time is a resource
you can allocate as you see fit. That's not how it works.

chromatic has written at length about this subject, so I'm not going
to delve further into it.
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Re: [Catalyst] Building complex layouts

2009-12-30 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Pavel O. Karoukin pa...@yepcorp.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I wonder what is a best practice to build complex layouts (sidebars, forms
 in 'em, list of latest news in sidebar, etc)?
 Right now I see it in chaining several actions and each one adding content
 into stash. Is there any other dry approaches?
 May be there is a way to separate each element of layout into it's own
 action + template and call this from base template?

Definitely split sidebars etc. into separate actions.  Then have
nginx, varnish or equiv. combine them with SSI/ESI.  This also helps
caching across pages.
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Re: [Catalyst] Building complex layouts

2009-12-30 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote:
 On 30 Dec 2009, at 10:11, Lars Balker Rasmussen wrote:
 [...]

 Definitely split sidebars etc. into separate actions.  Then have nginx,
 varnish or equiv. combine them with SSI/ESI.  This also helps caching across
 pages.

 Does Catalyst's built-in web server support either technology yet? If not,
 you're going to find it harder to debug your site if you use them.

Meh, it'd be a trivial plugin to write, if nobody hasn't already.
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Re: [Catalyst] Why load modules two times?

2009-08-04 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Malloyjackwor...@gmail.com wrote:
 I find the modules  were loaded two times?
 [info] myapp powered by Catalyst 5.7014
 [Tue Aug 04 01:05:18 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.5.1
 mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0 configured -- resuming normal operations

That's how mod_perl rolls.  I think you'll find that the standalone
server doesn't load the modules twice.

http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/handlers/server.html

Best way to avoid this: don't use mod_perl.
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Re: [Catalyst] Why load modules two times?

2009-08-04 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Malloyjackwor...@gmail.com wrote:
 But Apache2 has not ServerType option, how to set standalone?

Standalone server = perl script/myapp_server.pl

Check http://dev.catalystframework.org/wiki/deployment for
alternatives to mod_perl.
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Re: [Catalyst] so many 'sleep' process in mysql.

2009-04-25 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Malloy jackwor...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use 'Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema'.

 But i find so many 'sleep' process in mysql.

 Is it normal? If not, why and how to avoid it?

It's perfectly normal for a process to sleep when it doesn't have anything
to do.  It would be a problem if it didn't!
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Re: [Catalyst] [PATCH] Catalyst::DispatchType::Chained (5.7101, 5.80001)

2009-04-20 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Oleg Kostyuk cub.ua...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think that was what Matt asked for. Anyways,
 1) Why can't your changes be a patch to Text::SimpleTable?
 I think that new module will be better in this case, because someone
 else can be needed unchanged Text::SimpleTable.

May I suggest:

   my $t1 = Text::SimpleTable-new( 5, 10 );
   my $t2 = Text::SimpleTable-new( [ 5, 'Foo' ], [ 10, 'Bar' ] );
   my $t3 = Text::SimpleTable::AutoWidth-new( {
   max_width = 40,
   captions= [qw/Foo Bar Baz/],
   } );

Backwards compatible, easy to test for.
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Re: [Catalyst] [PATCH] Catalyst::DispatchType::Chained (5.7101, 5.80001)

2009-04-20 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Oleg Kostyuk cub.ua...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/4/20 Lars Balker Rasmussen l...@balker.dk:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Oleg Kostyuk cub.ua...@gmail.com wrote:

 May I suggest:

           my $t1 = Text::SimpleTable-new( 5, 10 );
           my $t2 = Text::SimpleTable-new( [ 5, 'Foo' ], [ 10, 'Bar' ] );
           my $t3 = Text::SimpleTable::AutoWidth-new( {
               max_width = 40,
               captions    = [qw/Foo Bar Baz/],
           } );

 Backwards compatible, easy to test for.

 Not sure that understood what you mean here.
 Please, explain little bit more.

Bah, cut'n'paste'n'user error:

   my $t3 = Text::SimpleTable-new( {
   max_width = 40,
   captions= [qw/Foo Bar Baz/],
   } );

I meant, it's easy to extend the Text::SimpleTable API without breaking
backwards compatibility.
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Re: [Catalyst] stripping path parts and then redispatch?

2009-02-22 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Larry Leszczynski
lar...@emailplus.org wrote:
 I have an existing site, and want to add the page language to the URLs
 so that caching will work correctly, e.g. /foo/bar would now look like
 /en/foo/bar or /fr/foo/bar.  (The language is user-selected, not
 from browser prefs, so setting the Vary: Accept-Language response
 header won't help.)

Apart from the missing true return value from auto, this works:

http://lists.scsys.co.uk/pipermail/catalyst/2009-February/021072.html
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Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::CHI

2009-02-09 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Ashley a...@sedition.com wrote:
 Actually, replying to myself already; and top posting to boot.

 Alternatively: would it be a good idea to make the ::Store automatically
 discover the cache if it's there already? I might try a patch for that but I
 doubt it's as easy as a new store. I'd like it better though.

There's always my slightly flawed Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::Cache?

Flawed, since it doesn't update session-expiry on read.  I expect to
solve this for memcached when I get some tuits, maybe CHI supports
something similar to memcached's cas?
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Re: [Catalyst] now() in insert

2009-02-06 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Devin Austin devin.aus...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Christian Lackas christ...@lackas.net wrote:
dt = \'now()'

 DateTime also has a -now method.

Careful now, they may not be identical:

% perl -MDateTime -E 'say DateTime-now'
2009-02-06T16:47:48

postgresql= select now();
  now
---
 2009-02-06 17:48:00.240287+01

No timezone in DateTime unless you explicitly ask for it.

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Re: [Catalyst] Detach won't detach?

2009-01-26 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 07:56:53PM +0100, koniczynek wrote:
 sub auto :Private {
   my ( $self, $c ) = @_;
 
   $c-log-debug('action start');
   if ( ! user_logged_in) {
 $c-redirect( $c-req-base );
   } else {
 $c-detach( $c-action-{name} );
   } 
   $c-log-debug('action end');
 }

auto relies on a return value to tell the dispatcher whether to continue or not.
Doing the normal action is the default, detaching to it is redundant, hence:

sub auto :Private {
  my ( $self, $c ) = @_;

  if ( ! user_logged_in) {
$c-redirect( $c-req-base );
return 0;
  }

  return 1;
}

This example is pretty much exactly the same as in the main Catalyst pod.
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Re: [Catalyst] installing catalyst on mac os

2008-12-25 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 06:51:08AM -0500, Filippo A. Salustri wrote:
 Just FYI, I'm a catalyst beginner, but I wrote my first perl script in 
 1986.  So you can use big words and I'll very likely get it.

Wow.  Larry released 1.000 in december 1987, so you must have worked with
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Re: [Catalyst] Any alternatives to generating thumbnails aside from Catalyst::Plugin::Upload::Image::Magick::Thumbnail

2008-12-23 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 07:49:50PM +1100, kakim...@tpg.com.au wrote:
   Yes i have heard of Imager. Anyone else used it extensively ?

Extremely heavily for all image-related tasks for years.

And remember the 1st rule of thumbnails:  cache.
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Re: [Catalyst] OT: Use the CPAN, Luke? (was: Catalyst install failure due to Mouse.pm on Debian Etch)

2008-11-28 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 03:55:54AM +0100, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
 Case in point, Mouse is essentially Moose Light. Since Catalyst
 itself is becoming Moose-based, is there *any* reason to use
 Mouse instead? I suppose if it automatically stubs itself into
 a Moose loader where Moose is available, that would be not *too*
 bad, but it???s still a pointlessly added dependency.

While Data::Visitor depends on Mouse, it actually uses Squirrel (which
is in the Mouse dist), which will fall back to the Moose already loaded
by Catalyst.  I assume most Mouse-users are smart enough to do this.

And Data::Visitor isn't just for Catalyst-use, so our problem isn't theirs.
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Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst and Perl on Google App Engine

2008-06-29 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 01:47:02PM +0400, Oleg Pronin wrote:
 everything in other languages sucks compared to catalyst  DBIC.

What's your point?  I asume Stephen is talking about running Cat+DBIC on
app-engine (albeit a slightly neutered DBIC, but DBIC nevertheless).

 what is the goal to adapt more powerful system to less powerful?

So, where is your hypothetical system that is more powerful than
app-engine?  Have you ever tried scaling an app beyond a single box?
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Re: [Catalyst] Distributed session storage problems/questions

2008-02-20 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 01:08:08PM -0500, Matt Pitts wrote:
 1. What is the acceptable way to use memcached for session storage? Is
 it using C::P::Session::Store::Memcached or is it
 C::P::Session::Store::Cache in conjunction with C::P::Cache::Memcached?

Well, either, really, they do much the same thing.  I wrote CPS::Store::Cache
to avoid the silliness of having two connections to memcached per backend, 
using two different Cache:: modules.

So, if you have the cache working, it should be very easy to set up 
sessions.

 2. Is memcached even a good way to store sessions? DBIC seems to be a
 popular option, but I figured memcached's considerable speed would make
 it the preferred choice.

How important are sessions to you?  If dropping a session once in a bluemoon
is acceptable, memcached is perfectly fine.  In fact, the memcached process
is about as stable as the rest of the machine it runs on, which should 
hopefully be very stable. 

 3. When using memcached to store sessions, is it OK to have more than
 one backend?

YES!  Definitely.  Silly not to.

 At first I didn't think anything about adding another
 backend, but then I thought that the 2 memcached instances wouldn't have
 the same set of data which would cause problems with sessions, unless of
 course the session writes get distributed to all the backends. I've
 looked into the source of C::P::Session::Store::Memcached,
 Cache::Memcached::Managed and Cache::Memcached and cannot tell if the
 writes are spread across all backends. Does anyone know the answer to
 this?

As long as you specify the servers in the same order on all memcached-
clients, they will hash the keys the exact same way, and a set() on
server B will cause a get() on server A to just work(tm).

 4. Is it just crazy to run a load balanced setup without some type of
 sticky session setup on the proxy? If so, any implementations of this
 using Apache 2.x mod_proxy(_balancer) as the frontend would be greatly
 appreciated.

Sticky sessions are annoying.
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Re: [Catalyst] Status of Reaction - ready for new projects?

2008-01-01 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 03:00:57PM -0800, John Napiorkowski wrote:
 I remember reading somewhere about a Winter of Code
 perl project to use Reaction but I can't seem to find
 it, so I might have heard incorrectly.

You haven't.

http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/resources/woc_todo/
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Re: [Catalyst] difficulty in assigning an array to a stash

2007-11-11 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:58:04PM +0530, jagdish eashwar wrote:
 Hi,
 I am trying to retrieve into an array a list of values from a column
 in a table using dbic and have it displayed in a drop down list in a
 tt2 template. I am able to do the retrieval part, but the tt2 template
 is displaying only the last value from the array. With further
 experimentation, I found that if I explicitly assign an array to a
 stash ( like '$c-stash-{myoptions} = [qw/1 2 3 4 5 6 7/];' ), I am
 getting all the 7 values in the tt2 template drop down. But if I
 define the array first and then assign it to the stash, ( like 'my
 @options = qw/1 2 3 4 5 6 7/; $c-stash-{myoptions} = @options;) I am
 getting only the last value in the tt2 template. How can I get all the
 values in the array into the stash without having to do it explicitly?

 $c-stash-{myoptions} = [EMAIL PROTECTED];

 perldoc perlreftut
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Re: [Catalyst] Preventing Catalyst from loading a Controller pm module

2007-10-30 Thread Lars Balker Rasmussen
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 03:19:48PM +0200, Valentin Tumarkin wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was wondering if there's a standard way for preventing Catalyst from
 loading a Controller module. I would like to keep my base Controller modules
 in the MyApp/Controller directory, but do not want Catalyst treating them as
 http-client accessible modules.
 
 For example:
 MyApp/Controller/BaseController.pm
 MyApp/Controller/AdvancedBaseControllerClass.pm (uses BaseController)
 MyApp/Controller/ActualController.pm (uses AdvancedBaseController)
 
 At this time I'm putting my base classes in the MyApp/Base/.. directories,
 but this method just doesn't seem as clean to me.

This isn't clean(!) per se, but you could simply do
   sub auto { 0 }
in the virtual bases and 
   sub auto { 1 }
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