Re: [Catalyst] New design
Mark, Thanks for sharing this and for spearheading the effort! I think its a nice design, although as a few others mentioned perhaps it would be idea to not have the astronauts dancing, as that might step on the Dancer people toes a bit. My bigger concern for the website is overall long term management of it and its content. I've given this a lot of thought over the past year and not come up with a great solution, other than to say it would like be bette to have a smaller site overall, and just link to github and the main metacpan docs, and maybe a list of aggregated blogs, rather than a big central website. I just don't think we have the contribution level necessary for it (the current site was put together when the overall involvement was higher). I'd prefer a clean looking, smaller site but with up to date info and some ability to keep it freshened up. I know when I am interested in a new project and go to the website I want stuff like 'what its for which a clear use case for the problem its solving, links to the repo and news blogs so I can be sure there's actually people working on it and the project isn't dead. I think that's about the extent of my thinking on it, and I personally don't have time to make any of that happen :( John - Original Message - From: Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk To: catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:48 AM Subject: [Catalyst] New design T he nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Kind regards Mark -- Mark Keating BA (Hons), Writer, Photographer, Cat-Herder. Managing Director: http://www.shadow.cat For more that I do visit: http://www.mdk.me ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
nice! On 23/07/2013, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote: The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Kind regards Mark -- Mark Keating BA (Hons), Writer, Photographer, Cat-Herder. Managing Director: http://www.shadow.cat For more that I do visit: http://www.mdk.me ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- http://www.suretecsystems.com/services/openldap/ http://www.surevoip.co.uk ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] New design
The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Kind regards Mark -- Mark Keating BA (Hons), Writer, Photographer, Cat-Herder. Managing Director: http://www.shadow.cat For more that I do visit: http://www.mdk.me ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
It's cool indeed. Great work dude, great work! On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Chankey Pathak chankey...@gmail.comwrote: It's cool! I liked it :) Good job! On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.ukwrote: The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/**community/mocks/Catalyst.jpghttp://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Kind regards Mark -- Mark Keating BA (Hons), Writer, Photographer, Cat-Herder. Managing Director: http://www.shadow.cat For more that I do visit: http://www.mdk.me __**_ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/catalysthttp://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/** catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- Regards, Chankey Pathak http://www.linuxstall.com ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
RE: [Catalyst] New design
I'm not sure what all the weird dancing space people are all about? I'm not a graphic designer though, so what do I know! -Original Message- From: Mark Keating [mailto:m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk] Sent: 23 July 2013 09:49 To: catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Subject: [Catalyst] New design The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Kind regards Mark -- Mark Keating BA (Hons), Writer, Photographer, Cat-Herder. Managing Director: http://www.shadow.cat For more that I do visit: http://www.mdk.me ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ This Email and any attachments contain confidential information and is intended solely for the individual to whom it is addressed. If this Email has been misdirected, please notify the author as soon as possible. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on any of the information contained, and all copies must be deleted immediately. Whilst we take reasonable steps to try to identify any software viruses, any attachments to this e-mail may nevertheless contain viruses, which our anti-virus software has failed to identify. You should therefore carry out your own anti-virus checks before opening any documents. HomeLoan Partnership will not accept any liability for damage caused by computer viruses emanating from any attachment or other document supplied with this e-mail. HomeLoan Partnership reserves the right to monitor and archive all e-mail communications through its network. No representative or employee of HomeLoan Partnership has the authority to enter into any contract on behalf of HomeLoan Partnership by email. HomeLoan Partnership is a trading name of H L Partnership Limited, registered in England and Wales with Registration Number 5011722. Registered office: Pharos House, 67 High Street, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 1DN. H L Partnership Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
On 07/23/13 10:48, Mark Keating wrote: Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg I love it. Dancing people makes it seem amusing to use. Space mood makes it ready for the future. Best regards,\ferz ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
RE: [Catalyst] New design
Don't get me wrong, the site looks cool for sure. I just didn't get the dancing space people and an MVC Perl Framework connection. Ballerina, Tap Dancing, Tango / Salsa etc.. I am struggling to relate the icon to the feature. Break dancing = plug-in ? Of course YMMV! -Original Message- From: Ferruccio Zamuner [mailto:nonsolos...@diff.org] Sent: 23 July 2013 12:43 To: catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Subject: Re: [Catalyst] New design On 07/23/13 10:48, Mark Keating wrote: Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg I love it. Dancing people makes it seem amusing to use. Space mood makes it ready for the future. Best regards,\ferz ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ This Email and any attachments contain confidential information and is intended solely for the individual to whom it is addressed. If this Email has been misdirected, please notify the author as soon as possible. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on any of the information contained, and all copies must be deleted immediately. Whilst we take reasonable steps to try to identify any software viruses, any attachments to this e-mail may nevertheless contain viruses, which our anti-virus software has failed to identify. You should therefore carry out your own anti-virus checks before opening any documents. HomeLoan Partnership will not accept any liability for damage caused by computer viruses emanating from any attachment or other document supplied with this e-mail. HomeLoan Partnership reserves the right to monitor and archive all e-mail communications through its network. No representative or employee of HomeLoan Partnership has the authority to enter into any contract on behalf of HomeLoan Partnership by email. HomeLoan Partnership is a trading name of H L Partnership Limited, registered in England and Wales with Registration Number 5011722. Registered office: Pharos House, 67 High Street, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 1DN. H L Partnership Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote: http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Evozon++ mdk++ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
Mark == Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk writes: Mark The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design Mark mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a Mark fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what Mark you guys think. Mark http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg I love it! -- Eden Cardim ShadowCat Systems Ltd. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
Good good On 7/23/13, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote: The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Kind regards Mark -- Mark Keating BA (Hons), Writer, Photographer, Cat-Herder. Managing Director: http://www.shadow.cat For more that I do visit: http://www.mdk.me ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
Kind of odd. The spaceship is the lunar shuttle from 2001 a Space Odysy which is ambiguous since its now 2013, long past 2001, but still futuristic since there are no bases on the Moon. Yet. I don't get the dancers either, especially since Dancer is a competitor for Catalyst. Sort of an ambivalent vibe. I'd sort of expect something linked to the word catalyst instead, but I confess I can't think of a visual that evokes catalysis (facilitating rate of reaction by effectively lowering activation energy). The design is clean and crisp though. Maybe a bit dark. JE On 7/23/13, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote: The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Kind regards Mark -- Mark Keating BA (Hons), Writer, Photographer, Cat-Herder. Managing Director: http://www.shadow.cat For more that I do visit: http://www.mdk.me -- john edstrom edst...@teleport.com ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 09:48:43AM +0100, Mark Keating wrote: The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Whether there is a reason for space dancers or not, I don't know. But I really like it! It would be a very welcome update to the current website. Cheers, André ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
I like it overall. I'd replace the dancing astronauts with something more catalyst-y like maybe test tubes or beakers and a bunsen burner with a nice flame on top. From: Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk To: catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:48 AM Subject: [Catalyst] New design The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg Kind regards Mark -- Mark Keating BA (Hons), Writer, Photographer, Cat-Herder. Managing Director: http://www.shadow.cat For more that I do visit: http://www.mdk.me ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
On Jul 23, 2013, at 1:48 AM, Mark Keating wrote: The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. http://www.mdk.me.uk/community/mocks/Catalyst.jpg I like the layout a lot. But the Catalyst molecule logo was apparently mistaken for a planetary system, which might have inspired the space theme. Perhaps keep the layout but change the thematic elements back to the chemistry/molecular/catalysis theme. BTW, there are a lot of very cool colorful images of catalytic surfaces (for example as seen on the cover of The Definitive Guide to Catalyst). Here's a real cool image: http://www6.slac.stanford.edu/pictures/990x660-news-article-expanded/130314-surfacechem-art-big.jpg Which I found on this page: http://www6.slac.stanford.edu/news/2013-03-14-surfacechemistry.aspx That's likely copyrighted, but is perhaps a great starting place for inspiration. - Rick Bychowski ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
On 23 Jul 2013, at 9:48, Mark Keating wrote: The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. It's very pretty, I *love* the look of many of the graphics, and there are some nice ideas in there. However, it is a very wide design which is going to lead to horizontal scrolling (the red section could do with having 2 rows of 3 things instead of 1 of 5, the space between the text and the book graphic could be reduced, the two guides to getting a decent Perl environment could do with being shunted off to their own page with a choice of links instead of a choice of columns) with some very tiny fonts (really tiny, the font size could do with being a lot bigger). I like the space theme, although as other people have commented it isn't Catalyst's traditional theme. I'd carry the dotted graphic theme through to the red section though (possibly with the telescope being done in that style). The Dancing astronauts are cute but more suggestive of Dancer than Catalyst! Then we come to Man With A Brick. Putting the first brick in place is a good image for getting started … but completely breaks from the space theme from elsewhere in the page. It's also the first section that uses translucent backgrounds and it really feels like part of a different site. The list of clients is nice, very clear and good at highlighting some high profile users of Catalyst. It suffers from too-many-columns but that is easily fixed. -- David Dorward http://dorward.co.uk/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] New design
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:30 PM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: On 23 Jul 2013, at 9:48, Mark Keating wrote: The nice chaps at Evozon have recently been making design mocks for a bunch of Perl sites and they have come up with a fresh look for Catalyst. Take a look and let me know what you guys think. Concur with some recent feedback. It's done nattily but it's incohesive, seems more targeted at HR and biz dev than software developers, and 2001 was approximately when Perl died and the movie makes me think of the 1960s, killer computers, and LSD, not MVC development for the future. -Ashley ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
