Re: [Catalyst] Success stories please

2008-10-06 Thread Zbigniew Lukasiak
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:01 AM, J. Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Andy apparently just wanted to start a flamewar.  This "article" is
> idiotic, the reasons more so.  I'm disappointed in perlbuzz in general
> as it now holds the same amount of respect as getting my news from The
> National Inquirer.

Nearly all the comments talk about Catalyst - looks like it is the
number one player here - I don't see any reason to be defensive.


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Re: [Catalyst] Success stories please

2008-10-06 Thread Bruno
2008/10/6 Mark Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> opinion of any sort. If someone were to do a frank and open blog post on the
> state of MVCs and where Cat stands in that, that'd be cool. It would be

Wasn't claco doing something like this?

http://chrislaco.com/articles/mvc-marathon/
http://chrislaco.com/articles/mvc-marathon-part-1-creating-a-new-application/
http://chrislaco.com/articles/mvc-marathon-part-2-creating-a-database-and-model/
http://chrislaco.com/articles/mvc-marathon-part-3-creating-a-restaurants-controller-and-view/

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Re: [Catalyst] Success stories please

2008-10-05 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Sun, Oct 05 2008, Andrew Rodland wrote:
> On Sunday 05 October 2008 06:16:57 pm Mark Keating wrote:
>> On 6 Oct 2008, at 00:01, J. Shirley wrote:
>> > Andy apparently just wanted to start a flamewar.  This "article" is
>> > idiotic, the reasons more so.  I'm disappointed in perlbuzz in general
>> > as it now holds the same amount of respect as getting my news from The
>> > National Inquirer.
>> >
>> > I'd encourage people to rather blog about finding the article to be in
>> > poor taste, then post their success stories.  Commenting here or on
>> > that blog entry is going to be buried.
>>
>> ++ to this
>
> Thirdeded. The best cure for Andy is to ignore him.

BTW, I have to mention one of Andy's talks at OSCON:

http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/detail/3001

It's called "People for Geeks", i.e. "how to be nice to people".

If it's possible to die from an irony attack, you might not be seeing
much more of me :)

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Re: [Catalyst] Success stories please

2008-10-05 Thread Andrew Rodland
On Sunday 05 October 2008 06:16:57 pm Mark Keating wrote:
> On 6 Oct 2008, at 00:01, J. Shirley wrote:
> > Andy apparently just wanted to start a flamewar.  This "article" is
> > idiotic, the reasons more so.  I'm disappointed in perlbuzz in general
> > as it now holds the same amount of respect as getting my news from The
> > National Inquirer.
> >
> > I'd encourage people to rather blog about finding the article to be in
> > poor taste, then post their success stories.  Commenting here or on
> > that blog entry is going to be buried.
>
> ++ to this

Thirdeded. The best cure for Andy is to ignore him.

Andrew

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Re: [Catalyst] Success stories please

2008-10-05 Thread Matt S Trout
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 03:08:22PM -0600, Devin Austin wrote:
> http://yourspace.codedright.net

On the blog dammit!

Or add it to catalystsites.org or something ...

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Re: [Catalyst] Success stories please

2008-10-05 Thread Mark Keating

On 6 Oct 2008, at 00:01, J. Shirley wrote:

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://perlbuzz.com/2008/10/whats-the-state-of-perl-web-frameworks.html

Shout out your support please, let's show the wider world that  
we're -the-
real MVC option right now. And be honest - I don't think anybody  
thinks the
docs are perfect or the learning curve's as shallow as it could be,  
but that

doesn't mean Catalyst isn't still awesome.



Andy apparently just wanted to start a flamewar.  This "article" is
idiotic, the reasons more so.  I'm disappointed in perlbuzz in general
as it now holds the same amount of respect as getting my news from The
National Inquirer.

I'd encourage people to rather blog about finding the article to be in
poor taste, then post their success stories.  Commenting here or on
that blog entry is going to be buried.

++ to this

Ignore the arsey blog post with a conversation that had no value as an  
opinion of any sort. If someone were to do a frank and open blog post  
on the state of MVCs and where Cat stands in that, that'd be cool. It  
would be pointless to indicate the guy was being a provocative idiot.  
Destructive arguments and comments are easy (ask his partner) we  
should be constructive.






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Re: [Catalyst] Success stories please

2008-10-05 Thread J. Shirley
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Matt S Trout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://perlbuzz.com/2008/10/whats-the-state-of-perl-web-frameworks.html
>
> Shout out your support please, let's show the wider world that we're -the-
> real MVC option right now. And be honest - I don't think anybody thinks the
> docs are perfect or the learning curve's as shallow as it could be, but that
> doesn't mean Catalyst isn't still awesome.
>

Andy apparently just wanted to start a flamewar.  This "article" is
idiotic, the reasons more so.  I'm disappointed in perlbuzz in general
as it now holds the same amount of respect as getting my news from The
National Inquirer.

I'd encourage people to rather blog about finding the article to be in
poor taste, then post their success stories.  Commenting here or on
that blog entry is going to be buried.

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[Catalyst] Success stories please

2008-10-05 Thread Matt S Trout
http://perlbuzz.com/2008/10/whats-the-state-of-perl-web-frameworks.html

Shout out your support please, let's show the wider world that we're -the-
real MVC option right now. And be honest - I don't think anybody thinks the
docs are perfect or the learning curve's as shallow as it could be, but that
doesn't mean Catalyst isn't still awesome.

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Re: [Catalyst] Success stories please

2008-10-05 Thread Devin Austin
http://yourspace.codedright.net

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Matt S Trout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://perlbuzz.com/2008/10/whats-the-state-of-perl-web-frameworks.html
>
> Shout out your support please, let's show the wider world that we're -the-
> real MVC option right now. And be honest - I don't think anybody thinks the
> docs are perfect or the learning curve's as shallow as it could be, but
> that
> doesn't mean Catalyst isn't still awesome.
>
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