Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-16 Thread Toby Corkindale
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:06:49PM -0700, Ashley wrote:
 On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
 /tag/name/name
 /tag/id/id

 The greatness of future possibilities is expanded to much happiness. 
 Chained/sub instance() make all the code behind either option JustWork.

 claco (I just like writing it) ++. This is mostly how I do it and for admin 
 functions I redirect to the id version. /tag/name/name going to its id at 
 /tag/id/id/edit as only the id is immutable for the record. Well, tags 
 are a bad example for this but an article name can certainly change.

I quite like using a regex to determine if it's a number or a word, and then
searching on the appropriate column (ie. Id vs Name). The computer does the
work so we don't have to.

Eg:
http://eventbot.dryft.net/people/view/13
==
http://eventbot.dryft.net/people/view/pir

(It's an old site of mine written in an afternoon; if/when I refactor it, those
URLs would be more REST-like, ie.
http://eventbot.dryft.net/people/(pir|13)/view
)

This has the disadvantage that you can't have tags, people, or whatever which
are numbers.. but hey, tough. I'm making my rules around here :)

Toby

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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-12 Thread Oleg Pronin
/tag/name/name
/tag/id/id

NOT name ! - transcription, because tag names might be in different
languages.

2008/4/12, Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Ashley wrote:

  On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Stephen Sykes wrote:
 
   Ashley wrote:
  
On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Stephen Sykes wrote:
   
 Chisel - What is so odd in passing the tag id to the controller
 for the by_tag feature?

   
   
I think this is the issue: Other users also tagged this 27. The
tag is the human readable part of the record. :)
   
 I'm still not getting this. :-\
  
   Once a new tag is added to the database the tag id will never change,
   only the tag weight. Tag id is unique and is primary. I suppose the tag
   description could be used with an index on that column for performance. 
   That
   would make sense, if that is your concern.
  
 
  It's that http://mysite.com/tag/1232 is meaningless to the user. Not
  that it's programatically incorrect; which, as you know, it's not.
  http://mysite.com/tag/pangolins is better UI.
 

 Well, I'm going to channel for the black part of my heart that mst is
 responsible for :-)

 This is much like the quandry:

 /users/146 for admin purposes vs.
 /users/claco   for humans on a browse

 choosing one or the other always seems to lead to problems.. so taking a
 tip from RHOX, do both...

 /tag/name/name
 /tag/id/id

 The greatness of future possibilities is expanded to much happiness.
 Chained/sub instance() make all the code behind either option JustWork.

 -=Chris


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-12 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Nigel Metheringham 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 11 Apr 2008, at 12:41, Paul Makepeace wrote:

  I'm curious, is there a compelling reason you're using one of the
  nine(!) RSS standards versus Atom?
 
  ...


   my $feed = XML::Feed-new('Atom');
 

  Going somewhat off-topic, when I was trying this I found XML::Feed was
 producing Atom feeds that caused apoplexy to the feed validators I tried,
so
 I changed to XML::Atom::SimpleFeed (which has other issues but was at
least
 producing output that the checker was happy with).

  Are you generating valid Atom with XML::Feed or did I hold the wrong end
of
 the chainsaw?

Hi Nigel,

The only non-validation I'm finding is that this module is producing dates
that don't appear to include the timezone info which is triggering a 'date
not RFC3339 compliant' error.

 DateTime::Format::W3CDTF 90
/usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/DateTime/Format/W3CDTF.pm

   86: #   $dt-hour, $dt-minute, $dt-second ) :
   87: #  sprintf( '%04d-%02d-%02d', $dt-year, $dt-month, $dt-day )
   88: #);
   89:
*   90: my $base = sprintf( '%04d-%02d-%02dT%02d:%02d:%02d',
*   91: $dt-year, $dt-month, $dt-day,
   92: $dt-hour, $dt-minute, $dt-second );
   93:
   94:


Incidentally this has shown up a bug in my code where if the author isn't
set the validation will complain about that too.

if (my @authors = $entry-authors) {
  foreach my $author (@authors) {
$feed_entry-author($author);
  }
} else {
  $feed_entry-author('Unknown');
}

Paul (apols to anyone that cares about the HTML)


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Dan Dascalescu
 http://www.catalystsites.org/

 Thanks, this looks useful, and can probably replace the sites running
 catalyst pages on the wiki.

That would be a great idea. I've been editing
http://catwiki.toeat.com/meta/tracpagestoport/liveapplications lately
and I was surprised to see only Kieren's mention of it here (and no
mention of http://www.catalystsites.org there).
1) Stephen, feel free to grab the links from catwiki and move them to
catalystsites.org
2) Is the wiki still the intended repository for documentation? I
found that scarcely any new content got added over the last few weeks.

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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Kieren Diment


On 11 Apr 2008, at 20:35, Dan Dascalescu wrote:

http://www.catalystsites.org/



Thanks, this looks useful, and can probably replace the sites running
catalyst pages on the wiki.


That would be a great idea. I've been editing
http://catwiki.toeat.com/meta/tracpagestoport/liveapplications lately
and I was surprised to see only Kieren's mention of it here (and no
mention of http://www.catalystsites.org there).
1) Stephen, feel free to grab the links from catwiki and move them to
catalystsites.org
2) Is the wiki still the intended repository for documentation? I
found that scarcely any new content got added over the last few weeks.



Oops, sorry :-º

I think the priority for catalystsites.org should be for rss support  
- one rss feed on the root should be sufficient initially.  I didn't  
see an announce to the list, so I assume that there's still no public  
svn repos, although I've noticed that *someone* has been fixing the  
code.


Once rss support is done I would strongly recommend that  
catalystsites.org becomes  the official site for sites running catalyst


Here's a moderately naive rss implementation, but apparently it's one  
of the few more reliable parts of wiab:


sub rss : Local {
my ($self, $c)= @_;
my $path = $c-req-args;
my $base = Path::Class::Dir-new($c-config-{content});
my $rss_data = $c-model('Content')-get_rss_data($base, $path);

# this is view code which is in the controller really.  It could
# be in the model, but then we would have to mess around with
# ACCEPT_CONTEXT or uglier.
my $feed = XML::Feed-new('RSS');
if (@$path) {
my $subpage = join '/', @$path;
$feed-title( $c-config-{name} . ' for ' . $subpage  .'  
page RSS Feed' );

}
else {
$feed-title( $c-config-{name} . ' RSS Feed' );
}

$feed-link( $c-uri_for(/content/) );
$feed-description( $c-config-{site_descr} );
foreach my $entry ( @$rss_data ) {
my $feed_entry = XML::Feed::Entry-new('RSS');
$feed_entry-title( $entry-{title} );
$feed_entry-link( $c-uri_for(/content/ . $entry-{link}));
$feed_entry-summary($entry-{summary});
$feed_entry-issued( DateTime-from_epoch(epoch   = $entry- 
{issued} ) );

$feed-add_entry($feed_entry);
}
$c-res-content_type('application/rss+xml');
$c-res-body( $feed-as_xml );
}


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Kieren Diment [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 11 Apr 2008, at 20:35, Dan Dascalescu wrote:

 
  
http://www.catalystsites.org/
   
  
 
 
   Thanks, this looks useful, and can probably replace the sites running
   catalyst pages on the wiki.
  
 
  That would be a great idea. I've been editing
  http://catwiki.toeat.com/meta/tracpagestoport/liveapplications lately
  and I was surprised to see only Kieren's mention of it here (and no
  mention of http://www.catalystsites.org there).
  1) Stephen, feel free to grab the links from catwiki and move them to
  catalystsites.org
  2) Is the wiki still the intended repository for documentation? I
  found that scarcely any new content got added over the last few weeks.
 
 

  Oops, sorry :-º

  I think the priority for catalystsites.org should be for rss support - one
 rss feed on the root should be sufficient initially.  I didn't see an
 announce to the list, so I assume that there's still no public svn repos,
 although I've noticed that *someone* has been fixing the code.

  Once rss support is done I would strongly recommend that catalystsites.org
 becomes  the official site for sites running catalyst

  Here's a moderately naive rss implementation, but apparently it's one of
 the few more reliable parts of wiab:

  sub rss : Local {
 my ($self, $c)= @_;
 my $path = $c-req-args;
 my $base = Path::Class::Dir-new($c-config-{content});
 my $rss_data = $c-model('Content')-get_rss_data($base, $path);

 # this is view code which is in the controller really.  It could
 # be in the model, but then we would have to mess around with
 # ACCEPT_CONTEXT or uglier.
 my $feed = XML::Feed-new('RSS');
 if (@$path) {
 my $subpage = join '/', @$path;
 $feed-title( $c-config-{name} . ' for ' . $subpage  .' page RSS
 Feed' );
 }
 else {
 $feed-title( $c-config-{name} . ' RSS Feed' );
 }

 $feed-link( $c-uri_for(/content/) );
 $feed-description( $c-config-{site_descr} );
 foreach my $entry ( @$rss_data ) {
 my $feed_entry = XML::Feed::Entry-new('RSS');
 $feed_entry-title( $entry-{title} );
 $feed_entry-link( $c-uri_for(/content/ . $entry-{link}));
 $feed_entry-summary($entry-{summary});
 $feed_entry-issued( DateTime-from_epoch(epoch   =
 $entry-{issued} ) );
 $feed-add_entry($feed_entry);
 }
 $c-res-content_type('application/rss+xml');
 $c-res-body( $feed-as_xml );


  }

I'm curious, is there a compelling reason you're using one of the
nine(!) RSS standards versus Atom?

sub atom : Path('atom.xml') {
  my ($self, $c) = @_;

  my @tags = $c-req-param('tags');
  my @news : Stashed = $c-model('DBIC::Story')-tagged_news([EMAIL PROTECTED]);

  my $feed = XML::Feed-new('Atom');
  $feed-title('Our Org Atom Feed');
  $feed-link($c-req-base); # link to the site.
  $feed-description(Our Org presents @tags news);

  foreach my $entry (@news) {
my $feed_entry = XML::Feed::Entry-new('Atom');
$feed_entry-title($entry-headline);
$feed_entry-link($c-uri_for($entry-hyperlink));
$feed_entry-content($entry-body_text);
$feed_entry-category($_-tag) for $entry-tags;
#$feed_entry-author($entry-...author...);
$feed_entry-issued($entry-date_time);
$feed-add_entry($feed_entry);
  }
  $c-res-content_type('application/atom+xml');
  $c-res-body($feed-as_xml);
}

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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Nigel Metheringham


On 11 Apr 2008, at 12:41, Paul Makepeace wrote:

I'm curious, is there a compelling reason you're using one of the
nine(!) RSS standards versus Atom?

...

 my $feed = XML::Feed-new('Atom');


Going somewhat off-topic, when I was trying this I found XML::Feed was  
producing Atom feeds that caused apoplexy to the feed validators I  
tried, so I changed to XML::Atom::SimpleFeed (which has other issues  
but was at least producing output that the checker was happy with).


Are you generating valid Atom with XML::Feed or did I hold the wrong  
end of the chainsaw?


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Stephen Sykes

Kieren Diment wrote:


On 11 Apr 2008, at 20:35, Dan Dascalescu wrote:

http://www.catalystsites.org/



Thanks, this looks useful, and can probably replace the sites running
catalyst pages on the wiki.


That would be a great idea. I've been editing
http://catwiki.toeat.com/meta/tracpagestoport/liveapplications lately
and I was surprised to see only Kieren's mention of it here (and no
mention of http://www.catalystsites.org there).
1) Stephen, feel free to grab the links from catwiki and move them to
catalystsites.org
2) Is the wiki still the intended repository for documentation? I
found that scarcely any new content got added over the last few weeks.



Oops, sorry :-º

I think the priority for catalystsites.org should be for rss support - 
one rss feed on the root should be sufficient initially.  I didn't see 
an announce to the list, so I assume that there's still no public svn 
repos, although I've noticed that *someone* has been fixing the code.


Once rss support is done I would strongly recommend that 
catalystsites.org becomes  the official site for sites running catalyst


Here's a moderately naive rss implementation, but apparently it's one 
of the few more reliable parts of wiab:


sub rss : Local {
my ($self, $c)= @_;
my $path = $c-req-args;
my $base = Path::Class::Dir-new($c-config-{content});
my $rss_data = $c-model('Content')-get_rss_data($base, $path);

# this is view code which is in the controller really.  It could
# be in the model, but then we would have to mess around with
# ACCEPT_CONTEXT or uglier.
my $feed = XML::Feed-new('RSS');
if (@$path) {
my $subpage = join '/', @$path;
$feed-title( $c-config-{name} . ' for ' . $subpage  .' page 
RSS Feed' );

}
else {
$feed-title( $c-config-{name} . ' RSS Feed' );
}

$feed-link( $c-uri_for(/content/) );
$feed-description( $c-config-{site_descr} );
foreach my $entry ( @$rss_data ) {
my $feed_entry = XML::Feed::Entry-new('RSS');
$feed_entry-title( $entry-{title} );
$feed_entry-link( $c-uri_for(/content/ . $entry-{link}));
$feed_entry-summary($entry-{summary});
$feed_entry-issued( DateTime-from_epoch(epoch   = 
$entry-{issued} ) );

$feed-add_entry($feed_entry);
}
$c-res-content_type('application/rss+xml');
$c-res-body( $feed-as_xml );
}


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That would be me. I *promise* to setup public svn repo soon, and then 
you can add in RSS to the code base if you want.


Chisel - What is so odd in passing the tag id to the controller for the 
by_tag feature?


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Ashley

On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Stephen Sykes wrote:
Chisel - What is so odd in passing the tag id to the controller for  
the by_tag feature?



I think this is the issue: Other users also tagged this 27. The tag  
is the human readable part of the record. :)


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Stephen Sykes

Ashley wrote:

On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Stephen Sykes wrote:
Chisel - What is so odd in passing the tag id to the controller for 
the by_tag feature?



I think this is the issue: Other users also tagged this 27. The tag 
is the human readable part of the record. :)


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I'm still not getting this. :-\

Once a new tag is added to the database the tag id will never change, 
only the tag weight. Tag id is unique and is primary. I suppose the tag 
description could be used with an index on that column for performance. 
That would make sense, if that is your concern.


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Ashley

On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Stephen Sykes wrote:

Ashley wrote:

On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Stephen Sykes wrote:
Chisel - What is so odd in passing the tag id to the controller  
for the by_tag feature?



I think this is the issue: Other users also tagged this 27. The  
tag is the human readable part of the record. :)



I'm still not getting this. :-\

Once a new tag is added to the database the tag id will never  
change, only the tag weight. Tag id is unique and is primary. I  
suppose the tag description could be used with an index on that  
column for performance. That would make sense, if that is your  
concern.


It's that http://mysite.com/tag/1232 is meaningless to the user. Not  
that it's programatically incorrect; which, as you know, it's not.  
http://mysite.com/tag/pangolins is better UI.



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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Ashley

On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Christopher H. Laco wrote:

/tag/name/name
/tag/id/id

The greatness of future possibilities is expanded to much  
happiness. Chained/sub instance() make all the code behind either  
option JustWork.


claco (I just like writing it) ++. This is mostly how I do it and for  
admin functions I redirect to the id version. /tag/name/name going  
to its id at /tag/id/id/edit as only the id is immutable for the  
record. Well, tags are a bad example for this but an article name can  
certainly change.



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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-11 Thread Stephen Sykes

Ashley wrote:

On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Stephen Sykes wrote:

Ashley wrote:

On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Stephen Sykes wrote:
Chisel - What is so odd in passing the tag id to the controller for 
the by_tag feature?



I think this is the issue: Other users also tagged this 27. The 
tag is the human readable part of the record. :)



I'm still not getting this. :-\

Once a new tag is added to the database the tag id will never change, 
only the tag weight. Tag id is unique and is primary. I suppose the 
tag description could be used with an index on that column for 
performance. That would make sense, if that is your concern.


It's that http://mysite.com/tag/1232 is meaningless to the user. Not 
that it's programatically incorrect; which, as you know, it's not. 
http://mysite.com/tag/pangolins is better UI.



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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-08 Thread Kieren Diment


On 8 Apr 2008, at 20:25, Carl Johnstone wrote:

Is the Guardian run on Catalyst?


No, not exactly sure what they're using but I believe they've gone  
down the Java route.




I believe that they're trying but they're finding java a bit of a  
pain to work with.  Their blogging in on movable type, and the parent  
companies' regional newspaper network is running on catalyst ISTR.


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-07 Thread Stephen Sykes

Carl Johnstone wrote:
The site looks nice, but I find it a little bloatware to talk of 
40+ sites, when it's obvious that a good part of them share the same 
layout and codebase and only differ in the content.


That would actually be my fault, as I added those sites.

The aim is to create a list of public facing web sites running on Cat 
- we (currently) run 20 newspaper sites that do run on Cat. The fact 
they share a lot of code and have some design consistency could be 
seen as a bonus for the framework.


For reference I work for the Regional division of the Guardian Media 
Group (our most known publication is The Guardian newspaper 
www.guardian.co.uk ) - the sites I listed served around 10 million 
pages last month to around a million different people.


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Is the Guardian run on Catalyst?

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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Oleg Pronin
Cause for now i see URLs like
*URL:* http://test.bytabok.com
:)

2008/4/6, Oleg Pronin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 It would be good to sort sites basing on alexa.com's popularity rating.
 The best sites will be on top ! :)

 2008/4/6, Stephen Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Markus Holzer wrote:
 
   Hi Stephen.
  
Well, today I would like to announce the site launch.
   
   The site looks nice, but I find it a little bloatware to talk of 40+
   sites, when it's obvious that a good part of them share the same layout 
   and
   codebase and only differ in the content.
  
  It's just a feature that shows the total count. I didn't know there
  would be 20 news portal listings with similar design, it just happened. I
  don't think the feature should be removed just because of that. Besides, to
  call it bloatware is a bit extreme, is it not?
 
   I hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the time
to register and post their Catalyst driven websites.
   
   I will, as soon as I have EmPiDri in a presentable state :)
  
  Excellent. :-)
 
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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Oleg Pronin
It would be good to sort sites basing on alexa.com's popularity rating. The
best sites will be on top ! :)

2008/4/6, Stephen Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Markus Holzer wrote:

  Hi Stephen.
 
   Well, today I would like to announce the site launch.
  
  The site looks nice, but I find it a little bloatware to talk of 40+
  sites, when it's obvious that a good part of them share the same layout and
  codebase and only differ in the content.
 
 It's just a feature that shows the total count. I didn't know there would
 be 20 news portal listings with similar design, it just happened. I don't
 think the feature should be removed just because of that. Besides, to call
 it bloatware is a bit extreme, is it not?

  I hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the time to
   register and post their Catalyst driven websites.
  
  I will, as soon as I have EmPiDri in a presentable state :)
 
 Excellent. :-)

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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Marcus Ramberg

ty chego raspizdelsia po-russki, suka? :D

Marcus

On 2. april. 2008, at 19.17, Oleg Pronin wrote:

ti che raspizdilsya po-nemetski, suka ?

2008/4/2, Ulf Lenski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hallo Ulrich,
ich habe, dein Einverständnis vorausgesetzt, unsere pspf-app mal  
auf der

unten genannten Seite veröffentlicht.
http://drs.dife.de/ könnte dort doch auch gelistet werden?

Wollen wir uns bei Gelegenheit mal wieder treffen?

bis bald - ulf.


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Hello Friends,

For the past few days I have been putting together a site for  
listings

of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea was
born out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago  
regarding a

lack of any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC
framework. Well, today I would like to announce the site launch. I
hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the time  
to

register and post their Catalyst driven websites.

Note: I am also planning to release the source code for the site via
subversion/trac as soon as I get a couple more admin features
finished. So if anyone is interested in helping with the site code  
we
can do this under version control, a sort of community driven  
project

if you will.

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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Ali M.
أنا بكلم عربي كويس عشان أنا مصري
:P

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Marcus Ramberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ty chego raspizdelsia po-russki, suka? :D

 Marcus



 On 2. april. 2008, at 19.17, Oleg Pronin wrote:
  ti che raspizdilsya po-nemetski, suka ?
 
  2008/4/2, Ulf Lenski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
   Hallo Ulrich,
   ich habe, dein Einverständnis vorausgesetzt, unsere pspf-app mal auf der
   unten genannten Seite veröffentlicht.
   http://drs.dife.de/ könnte dort doch auch gelistet werden?
  
   Wollen wir uns bei Gelegenheit mal wieder treffen?
  
   bis bald - ulf.
  
  
   Stephen Sykes schrieb:
  
  
Hello Friends,
   
For the past few days I have been putting together a site for listings
of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea was
born out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago regarding a
lack of any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC
framework. Well, today I would like to announce the site launch. I
hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the time to
register and post their Catalyst driven websites.
   
Note: I am also planning to release the source code for the site via
subversion/trac as soon as I get a couple more admin features
finished. So if anyone is interested in helping with the site code we
can do this under version control, a sort of community driven project
if you will.
   
URL: http://www.catalystsites.org
   
Kind Regards,
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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Oleg Pronin
5 ballov :

2008/4/6, Marcus Ramberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 ty chego raspizdelsia po-russki, suka? :D

 Marcus

 On 2. april. 2008, at 19.17, Oleg Pronin wrote:

  ti che raspizdilsya po-nemetski, suka ?
 
  2008/4/2, Ulf Lenski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
   Hallo Ulrich,
   ich habe, dein Einverständnis vorausgesetzt, unsere pspf-app mal auf
   der
   unten genannten Seite veröffentlicht.
   http://drs.dife.de/ könnte dort doch auch gelistet werden?
  
   Wollen wir uns bei Gelegenheit mal wieder treffen?
  
   bis bald - ulf.
  
  
   Stephen Sykes schrieb:
  
Hello Friends,
   
For the past few days I have been putting together a site for
listings
of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea was
born out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago regarding
a
lack of any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC
framework. Well, today I would like to announce the site launch. I
hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the time
to
register and post their Catalyst driven websites.
   
Note: I am also planning to release the source code for the site via
subversion/trac as soon as I get a couple more admin features
finished. So if anyone is interested in helping with the site code
we
can do this under version control, a sort of community driven
project
if you will.
   
URL: http://www.catalystsites.org
   
Kind Regards,
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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Martin Ellison
我看没懂。。。

On 06/04/2008, Oleg Pronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 5 ballov :

 2008/4/6, Marcus Ramberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  ty chego raspizdelsia po-russki, suka? :D
 
  Marcus
 
  On 2. april. 2008, at 19.17, Oleg Pronin wrote:
 
   ti che raspizdilsya po-nemetski, suka ?
  
   2008/4/2, Ulf Lenski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   
Hallo Ulrich,
ich habe, dein Einverständnis vorausgesetzt, unsere pspf-app mal auf
der
unten genannten Seite veröffentlicht.
http://drs.dife.de/ könnte dort doch auch gelistet werden?
   
Wollen wir uns bei Gelegenheit mal wieder treffen?
   
bis bald - ulf.
   
   
Stephen Sykes schrieb:
   
 Hello Friends,

 For the past few days I have been putting together a site for
 listings
 of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea
 was
 born out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago
 regarding a
 lack of any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC
 framework. Well, today I would like to announce the site launch. I
 hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the time
 to
 register and post their Catalyst driven websites.

 Note: I am also planning to release the source code for the site
 via
 subversion/trac as soon as I get a couple more admin features
 finished. So if anyone is interested in helping with the site code
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 can do this under version control, a sort of community driven
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 if you will.

 URL: http://www.catalystsites.org

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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Oleg Pronin
So what about:
It would be good to sort sites basing on alexa.com's popularity rating. The
best sites will be on top ! :)

2008/4/6, Oleg Pronin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 It would be good to sort sites basing on alexa.com's popularity rating.
 The best sites will be on top ! :)

 2008/4/6, Stephen Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Markus Holzer wrote:
 
   Hi Stephen.
  
Well, today I would like to announce the site launch.
   
   The site looks nice, but I find it a little bloatware to talk of 40+
   sites, when it's obvious that a good part of them share the same layout 
   and
   codebase and only differ in the content.
  
  It's just a feature that shows the total count. I didn't know there
  would be 20 news portal listings with similar design, it just happened. I
  don't think the feature should be removed just because of that. Besides, to
  call it bloatware is a bit extreme, is it not?
 
   I hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the time
to register and post their Catalyst driven websites.
   
   I will, as soon as I have EmPiDri in a presentable state :)
  
  Excellent. :-)
 
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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Oleg Pronin
Soon, the face of Rambler Media (one of 3 giants in russian internet, like
yahoo in US) will move to catalyst (i would say tuned catalyst because of
extremely high load). It will definetly be a massive argument for russian
developers to use catalyst / dbic, etc. So it would not be great if this
preview will be on 261 page.

2008/4/7, Oleg Pronin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 It's definitely better than sites that are on top currently :) Especially
 first :)
 Also i meant 'most popular sites', not 'best sites', sorry :)

 What are all of these need for ? The CS site is not only site for catalyst
 developer's interest.
 Many other developers are in doubt which language/framework to use. They
 are often search the network for such
 listing sites to discover what popular and huge portals use such
 framework, etc.


 2008/4/6, Marcus Ramberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Alexa.com's popularity rating isn't really representative for the whole
  net, as they only get data from people who use the alexa toolbar. Also, I'm
  not sure if most-used == best :)
 
  Marcus
 
  On 6. april. 2008, at 19.00, Oleg Pronin wrote:
 
   So what about:
   It would be good to sort sites basing on alexa.com's popularity
   rating. The
   best sites will be on top ! :)
  
   2008/4/6, Oleg Pronin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   
It would be good to sort sites basing on alexa.com's popularity
rating.
The best sites will be on top ! :)
   
2008/4/6, Stephen Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   

 Markus Holzer wrote:

  Hi Stephen.
 
   Well, today I would like to announce the site launch.
  
The site looks nice, but I find it a little bloatware to
  talk of 40+
  sites, when it's obvious that a good part of them share the same
  layout and
  codebase and only differ in the content.
 
   It's just a feature that shows the total count. I didn't know
 there
 would be 20 news portal listings with similar design, it just
 happened. I
 don't think the feature should be removed just because of that.
 Besides, to
 call it bloatware is a bit extreme, is it not?

  I hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the
  time
 
   to register and post their Catalyst driven websites.
  
I will, as soon as I have EmPiDri in a presentable state :)
 
   Excellent. :-)

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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Stephen Sykes

Oleg Pronin wrote:
It's definitely better than sites that are on top currently :) 
Especially first :)

Also i meant 'most popular sites', not 'best sites', sorry :)


If you want to produce the code required, I am willing to implement. I 
just don't have time at the moment. Or, everyone could visit the site 
and vote to change the results! :-P


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Ashley

On Apr 6, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Stephen Sykes wrote:

Oleg Pronin wrote:
It's definitely better than sites that are on top currently :)  
Especially first :)

Also i meant 'most popular sites', not 'best sites', sorry :)


If you want to produce the code required, I am willing to  
implement. I just don't have time at the moment. Or, everyone could  
visit the site and vote to change the results! :-P


Alexa is definitely *not* the way to go for reasons stated (their  
toolbar client feeds their stats). I don't know if these guys have an  
API or a way to use their data with their TOS but I was very  
impressed by their ranking/traffic guestimates -- http:// 
www.quantcast.com/ -- which were extremely close to the Urchin/Google  
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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-06 Thread Stephen Sykes

Ashley wrote:

On Apr 6, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Stephen Sykes wrote:

Oleg Pronin wrote:
It's definitely better than sites that are on top currently :) 
Especially first :)

Also i meant 'most popular sites', not 'best sites', sorry :)


If you want to produce the code required, I am willing to implement. 
I just don't have time at the moment. Or, everyone could visit the 
site and vote to change the results! :-P


Alexa is definitely *not* the way to go for reasons stated (their 
toolbar client feeds their stats). I don't know if these guys have an 
API or a way to use their data with their TOS but I was very impressed 
by their ranking/traffic guestimates -- http://www.quantcast.com/ -- 
which were extremely close to the Urchin/Google stats for sites of mine.




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I think you need to pay for the api, but I could be wrong as I'm not 
that familiar with their system. Isn't Quantcast basically the same 
setup? You need to signup and add their javascript code to your pages.


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-05 Thread Markus Holzer

Hi Stephen.

Well, today I would like to announce the site launch.
The site looks nice, but I find it a little bloatware to talk of 40+ 
sites, when it's obvious that a good part of them share the same layout 
and codebase and only differ in the content.
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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-03 Thread Stephen Sykes

Carl Johnstone wrote:
I'm not sure what the 50%/51% good bit means - this isn't clear.   
Maybe replace this with X users marked this as a favourite - no  
point in allowing people to vote down ;)


Would probably work better displayed Digg style (plus_votes - 
minus_votes) rather than having 50% as the default.


If you're going to use a % then I would use 
(plus_votes/total_votes)*100 with a nobody has voted yet fallback.


In any case, a good idea - I've added all our (public facing) sites at 
work to the site.


Carl


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I've changed it to just show and only allow positive votes. Are you the 
one who added all the news portals? Damn, gave me a good bit of work 
this morning! :-P


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-02 Thread Ulf Lenski
Hallo Ulrich,
ich habe, dein Einverständnis vorausgesetzt, unsere pspf-app mal auf der
unten genannten Seite veröffentlicht.
http://drs.dife.de/ könnte dort doch auch gelistet werden?

Wollen wir uns bei Gelegenheit mal wieder treffen?

bis bald - ulf.


Stephen Sykes schrieb:
 Hello Friends,

 For the past few days I have been putting together a site for listings
 of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea was
 born out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago regarding a
 lack of any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC
 framework. Well, today I would like to announce the site launch. I
 hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the time to
 register and post their Catalyst driven websites.

 Note: I am also planning to release the source code for the site via
 subversion/trac as soon as I get a couple more admin features
 finished. So if anyone is interested in helping with the site code we
 can do this under version control, a sort of community driven project
 if you will.

 URL: http://www.catalystsites.org

 Kind Regards,
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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-02 Thread Oleg Pronin
ti che raspizdilsya po-nemetski, suka ?

2008/4/2, Ulf Lenski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hallo Ulrich,
 ich habe, dein Einverständnis vorausgesetzt, unsere pspf-app mal auf der
 unten genannten Seite veröffentlicht.
 http://drs.dife.de/ könnte dort doch auch gelistet werden?

 Wollen wir uns bei Gelegenheit mal wieder treffen?

 bis bald - ulf.


 Stephen Sykes schrieb:

  Hello Friends,
 
  For the past few days I have been putting together a site for listings
  of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea was
  born out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago regarding a
  lack of any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC
  framework. Well, today I would like to announce the site launch. I
  hope everyone finds the site to their liking and can find the time to
  register and post their Catalyst driven websites.
 
  Note: I am also planning to release the source code for the site via
  subversion/trac as soon as I get a couple more admin features
  finished. So if anyone is interested in helping with the site code we
  can do this under version control, a sort of community driven project
  if you will.
 
  URL: http://www.catalystsites.org
 
  Kind Regards,
  Stephen Sykes
 
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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Wed, Apr 02 2008, Oleg Pronin wrote:
 ti che raspizdilsya po-nemetski, suka ?

 2008/4/2, Ulf Lenski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hallo Ulrich,
 ich habe, dein Einverständnis vorausgesetzt, unsere pspf-app mal auf der
 unten genannten Seite veröffentlicht.
 http://drs.dife.de/ könnte dort doch auch gelistet werden?

 Wollen wir uns bei Gelegenheit mal wieder treffen?

 bis bald - ulf.

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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-02 Thread Oleg Pronin
I posted 'games.rambler.ru' a week ago. Why didnt you add it? :)

2008/3/27, Stephen Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello Friends,

 For the past few days I have been putting together a site for listings
 of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea was born
 out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago regarding a lack of
 any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC framework. Well,
 today I would like to announce the site launch. I hope everyone finds
 the site to their liking and can find the time to register and post
 their Catalyst driven websites.

 Note: I am also planning to release the source code for the site via
 subversion/trac as soon as I get a couple more admin features finished.
 So if anyone is interested in helping with the site code we can do this
 under version control, a sort of community driven project if you will.

 URL: http://www.catalystsites.org

 Kind Regards,
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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-02 Thread Stephen Sykes

Oleg Pronin wrote:
I posted 'games.rambler.ru http://games.rambler.ru' a week ago. Why 
didnt you add it? :)


2008/3/27, Stephen Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello Friends,

For the past few days I have been putting together a site for listings
of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea
was born
out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago regarding a
lack of
any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC framework.
Well,
today I would like to announce the site launch. I hope everyone finds
the site to their liking and can find the time to register and post
their Catalyst driven websites.

Note: I am also planning to release the source code for the site via
subversion/trac as soon as I get a couple more admin features
finished.
So if anyone is interested in helping with the site code we can do
this
under version control, a sort of community driven project if you will.

URL: http://www.catalystsites.org

Kind Regards,
Stephen Sykes

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Site added on 03-29-2008 - 
http://www.catalystsites.org/sites/view_details/11


It's not on the home page now because others have been listed recently. 
You have to click View All Sites link on bottom of home page, then go 
to page 2. I'm working on adding more links to the main navigation area, 
just got some other projects to finish first. Anyone interested in 
helping with the site code, let me know. I have svn and trac setup for 
collaboration. :-)


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-02 Thread Kieren Diment

On 3 Apr 2008, at 09:29, Stephen Sykes wrote:

Oleg Pronin wrote:
I posted 'games.rambler.ru http://games.rambler.ru' a week ago.  
Why didnt you add it? :)


2008/3/27, Stephen Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello Friends,

For the past few days I have been putting together a site for  
listings

of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea
was born
out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago regarding a
lack of
any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC framework.



Thanks, this looks useful, and can probably replace the sites running  
catalyst pages on the wiki.


I see a couple of rendering bugs - the list of sites is appearing too  
low down (firefox 2, os x).


Also an RSS  feed of newest apps would be handy, that way we can get  
you on planet catalyst (pop a link to add further apps in the rss  
feed so that the site visibility improves).


I'm not sure what the 50%/51% good bit means - this isn't clear.   
Maybe replace this with X users marked this as a favourite - no  
point in allowing people to vote down ;)


Any chance you can post a link to the svn url to here please so we  
can all look at the code ;)



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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-04-02 Thread Stephen Sykes

Kieren Diment wrote:

On 3 Apr 2008, at 09:29, Stephen Sykes wrote:

Oleg Pronin wrote:
I posted 'games.rambler.ru http://games.rambler.ru' a week ago. 
Why didnt you add it? :)


2008/3/27, Stephen Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello Friends,

For the past few days I have been putting together a site for listings
of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea
was born
out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago regarding a
lack of
any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC framework.



Thanks, this looks useful, and can probably replace the sites running 
catalyst pages on the wiki.


I see a couple of rendering bugs - the list of sites is appearing too 
low down (firefox 2, os x).


Also an RSS feed of newest apps would be handy, that way we can get 
you on planet catalyst (pop a link to add further apps in the rss feed 
so that the site visibility improves).


I'm not sure what the 50%/51% good bit means - this isn't clear. Maybe 
replace this with X users marked this as a favourite - no point in 
allowing people to vote down ;)


Any chance you can post a link to the svn url to here please so we can 
all look at the code ;)



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Thanks. I can setup the svn for public co, just give me a bit of time. 
I'll try to post a link later this evening. The code is very basic at 
the moment as I have had some contract work come down the pipeline 
recently, so if anyone has some free time to add new features, like RSS 
feeds, that would be awesome. The percentage feature is for votes, 
similar to kde-apps.org. Perhaps we need just a count of positive votes. 
But these features can be discussed by adding new tickets to 
http://trac.catalystsites.org. As I said, if anyone is interested in 
collaborating on the project I will setup a group user account for trac 
as well.


I know about the ff rendering issue, I've not been able to find a fix 
yet. If anyone here can take a look at the html source and post a fix, I 
would be very happy! :-*


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Re: [Catalyst] CatalystSites.org

2008-03-28 Thread Emmanuel Quevillon

Stephen Sykes wrote:

Hello Friends,

For the past few days I have been putting together a site for listings 
of websites driven by the Catalyst MVC framework. The site idea was born 
out of a discussion on the list here a few weeks ago regarding a lack of 
any definitive list of sites based on the Catalyst MVC framework. Well, 
today I would like to announce the site launch. I hope everyone finds 
the site to their liking and can find the time to register and post 
their Catalyst driven websites.


Note: I am also planning to release the source code for the site via 
subversion/trac as soon as I get a couple more admin features finished. 
So if anyone is interested in helping with the site code we can do this 
under version control, a sort of community driven project if you will.


URL: http://www.catalystsites.org

Kind Regards,
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Hi Stephen,

Nice website you put on line!
I just wondered how did you do to know that such websites 
where running under Catalyst? There is no tag(s) like 
'Catalyst powered' in the footer of the page.
BTW, wouldn't it be nice to have an image/icon like other 
platforms have saying 'Catalyst powered', as we can see for 
PHP, mySQL, Hibernate, Apache, 
Just a though, maybe a good point to make catalyst known for 
 more and more people?


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