Re: [Catalyst] OT: YUI v Ext JS
I've visited, but I saw that it doesn't create an html table, but just some data arranged to look like a table. So it is not very accessible for those who use screen readers. The World Wide Web Consortium recommends not to use a table for layout, but to use a table for tabular data, and not other ways. Octavian - Original Message - From: Moritz Onken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The elegant MVC web framework catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] OT: YUI v Ext JS If you have a big table to display i'd recommend the ext extension live grid. You can see an example here: http://www.siteartwork.de/livegrid_demo/ it only retrieves the data you are seeing. Just scroll through the example and you'll see. I like ext pretty much. There are some issues with scrollbars on a mac with firefox, but thats a firefox bug and not ext. So I guess YUI might have the same problem on macs. -- Moritz Onken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schützenstraße 81 76137 Karlsruhe Festnetz: +49 (721) 2048842 Mobil:+49 (176) 24436493 Am 26.01.2008 um 03:14 schrieb Ashley: On Jan 25, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Peter Karman wrote: Ashley wrote on 1/25/08 6:44 PM: * Does Ext JS's grid have all the same goodies as YUI's DataTable? I haven't used Ext yet. But have you looked at: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/datatable/dt_cellediting.html ? Yes. Unless I'm missing something those changes are purely client- side. It took *a lot* of searching to discover someone asking on a YUI list the same basic question about server-side data updates and being told, you have to update your own data store however you feel like. * Is Ext JS completely stable across IE, FF, and Safari (Opera is sort of out of scope for this). * Do YUI's considerable other offerings (I'm looking for a site- wide library, not just grids) outweigh the positive aspects of Ext JS? * Would anyone, knowing *both*, pick YUI over Ext JS? I have used the YUI history manager to good effect (see http://catalyst.perl.org/calendar/2007/7) so if Ext had some widget I really wanted, I would just use both together. This is good advice. My only dilemma in the choosing for this part of the app is that the manager might say, WTF? I thought we were gonna use YUI? :) ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] OT: YUI v Ext JS
On Jan 25, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Peter Karman wrote: Ashley wrote on 1/25/08 6:44 PM: * Does Ext JS's grid have all the same goodies as YUI's DataTable? I haven't used Ext yet. But have you looked at: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/datatable/dt_cellediting.html ? Yes. Unless I'm missing something those changes are purely client- side. It took *a lot* of searching to discover someone asking on a YUI list the same basic question about server-side data updates and being told, you have to update your own data store however you feel like. * Is Ext JS completely stable across IE, FF, and Safari (Opera is sort of out of scope for this). * Do YUI's considerable other offerings (I'm looking for a site- wide library, not just grids) outweigh the positive aspects of Ext JS? * Would anyone, knowing *both*, pick YUI over Ext JS? I have used the YUI history manager to good effect (see http:// catalyst.perl.org/calendar/2007/7) so if Ext had some widget I really wanted, I would just use both together. This is good advice. My only dilemma in the choosing for this part of the app is that the manager might say, WTF? I thought we were gonna use YUI? :) ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] OT: YUI v Ext JS
Ashley wrote on 1/25/08 6:44 PM: * Does Ext JS's grid have all the same goodies as YUI's DataTable? I haven't used Ext yet. But have you looked at: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/datatable/dt_cellediting.html ? * Is Ext JS completely stable across IE, FF, and Safari (Opera is sort of out of scope for this). * Do YUI's considerable other offerings (I'm looking for a site-wide library, not just grids) outweigh the positive aspects of Ext JS? * Would anyone, knowing *both*, pick YUI over Ext JS? I can't speak to Ext's stability (though I imagine it's fine considering its origins) but it seems like a false dilemma. Can't you use both together? Ext started out as an extension to YUI and still maintains compatability AFAIK. From the Ext FAQ: Your choice of base libraries/adapters will most likely be driven by whether or not you already use an external library for something that Ext does not provide. For example, YUI includes some components like a history manager that Ext does not provide. In that case, you may want to include the YUI adapter.[...] I have used the YUI history manager to good effect (see http://catalyst.perl.org/calendar/2007/7) so if Ext had some widget I really wanted, I would just use both together. -- Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
