Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
On 15/04/2009, at 10:34 PM, Ali M. wrote: Any updates on this book, i have a coupon that expires before June Hope you publish it ahead of schedule! :) Reviewing chapter 3 at the moment before it goes to copy edit. I think we're going to publish on time ... ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
First congratulation, this book is surely needed. And may i ask which Catalyst release will this book cover? On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Richard Thomas r...@mac.com wrote: KinoSearch++ We have updates to the indexes attached to CDBI triggers, and it is extremely effective. Obviously this approach wouldn't work with multiple servers but there are ways of solving that. Kino is very clearly documented, and fast. We have about 8 assorted indexes, and just iterate through the lot, bringing back all hits found. It's still as close to instantaneous as makes no odds, and much easier than constructing DB searches. RET Sent from my iPhone On 07/02/2009, at 5:14 AM, Stuart Watt sw...@infobal.com wrote: Most of my work is search in Catalyst. I'll help. We've now got a web-service remote search system, a database SQL search, and a local search using a highly tweaked KinoSearch, all working fine and more or less pluggably. I am so happy with Catalyst, and when we get through our production deliverable (Tuesday) I'll happily collaborate on a search wiki. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
On 08/02/2009, at 6:46 PM, Ali M. wrote: First congratulation, this book is surely needed. And may i ask which Catalyst release will this book cover? We'll be making sure that it's relevant to version 5.8 ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
It would be nice if the book tells us how to work with heavy loaded projects. Very cool that will be yet another book on Catalyst! It is regrettable that so far there is no translation into Russian of a book on Catalyst. At the same time as there is a lot of Russian books on RoR. -- Andrey akovbov...@gmail.com On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM, kevin montuori montu...@gmail.com wrote: KD == Kieren Diment kie...@diment.org writes: KD Oh shit, that means we've actually got to finish it :o heh. not necessarily: apress had promised an ansi common lisp reference manual for years and then one day -- poof -- any mention of it was gone from their site. i can't wait to read the catalyst book. one of the great selling points of the framework (to management types) is the idea that any programmer off the street could come in and hit the ground running in a catalyst shop ... having a second book helps further that notion significantly. k. -- kevin montuori montu...@gmail.com ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
2009/2/6 Андрей П. Ковбович akovbov...@gmail.com: It would be nice if the book tells us how to work with heavy loaded projects. I recall a thread about what would you like in the new book. If it was still possible I'd like info on implementing a search engine into Catalyst to be included. :) ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 01:57:49PM +, Dermot wrote: 2009/2/6 Андрей П. Ковбович akovbov...@gmail.com: It would be nice if the book tells us how to work with heavy loaded projects. I recall a thread about what would you like in the new book. If it was still possible I'd like info on implementing a search engine into Catalyst to be included. :) Hmm. As someone who just incorporated an external search engine into two different Cat apps, I would have loved to have had such a chapter available Jesse Sheidlower ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 12:30:03PM -0500, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: Hmm. As someone who just incorporated an external search engine into two different Cat apps, I would have loved to have had such a chapter available Quick! Write down what you did! :) -- Chisel Wright e: chi...@herlpacker.co.uk w: http://www.herlpacker.co.uk/ If I seem superhuman I have been misunderstood ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
2009/2/6 Chisel Wright chi...@herlpacker.co.uk: On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 12:30:03PM -0500, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: Hmm. As someone who just incorporated an external search engine into two different Cat apps, I would have loved to have had such a chapter available Quick! Write down what you did! :) Indeed. Wiki it here: http://dev.catalystframework.org/wiki/gettingstarted/howtos ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: =On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 01:57:49PM +, Dermot wrote: = 2009/2/6 ?? ?. akovbov...@gmail.com: = It would be nice if the book tells us how to work with heavy loaded = projects. = = I recall a thread about what would you like in the new book. If it = was still possible I'd like info on implementing a search engine into = Catalyst to be included. :) = =Hmm. As someone who just incorporated an external search =engine into two different Cat apps, I would have loved to have =had such a chapter available = Any chance you'd consider a wiki entry or similar and post the url here :) -- - Dwalu .peace -- I am an important person in this world - Now is the most important time in my life - My mistakes are my best teachers - So I will be fearless. - Student Creed ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
Most of my work is search in Catalyst. I'll help. We've now got a web-service remote search system, a database SQL search, and a local search using a highly tweaked KinoSearch, all working fine and more or less pluggably. I am so happy with Catalyst, and when we get through our production deliverable (Tuesday) I'll happily collaborate on a search wiki. --S Dwalu Z. Khasu wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: =On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 01:57:49PM +, Dermot wrote: = 2009/2/6 ?? ?. akovbov...@gmail.com: = It would be nice if the book tells us how to work with heavy loaded = projects. = = I recall a thread about what would you like in the new book. If it = was still possible I'd like info on implementing a search engine into = Catalyst to be included. :) = =Hmm. As someone who just incorporated an external search =engine into two different Cat apps, I would have loved to have =had such a chapter available = Any chance you'd consider a wiki entry or similar and post the url here :) -- Stuart Watt ARM Product Developer Information Balance ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 05:35:35PM +, Chisel Wright wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 12:30:03PM -0500, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: Hmm. As someone who just incorporated an external search engine into two different Cat apps, I would have loved to have had such a chapter available Quick! Write down what you did! :) Thanks for all the calls to share this; let me think about how to do this. I was using Sphinx Search, which is superfast and powerful and not all that well documented; at least, the docs sort of assume that you know what you're doing, so it was hard for me to work around. (I've found this to be the case with other search engines, as well--even if there are Perl bindings on CPAN, they're not detailed about how to actually use the damn thing.) (Sphinx is also covered in an appendix of the new High-Performance MySQL book from O'Reilly, but with a similar treatment--lots of details about why you should use it if you have a 2G table with 10M hits/day and need such-and-such grouping queries, but nothing about how to actually integrate it into an app.) I'm now using it in two apps, but I'm not sure that the way I'm using it is going to be of broader relevance, esp. to people who do have a good idea of what they're doing. Let me look things over, and I'll wiki it if I think there's really something useful. Jesse ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: New Catalyst Book?
KinoSearch++ We have updates to the indexes attached to CDBI triggers, and it is extremely effective. Obviously this approach wouldn't work with multiple servers but there are ways of solving that. Kino is very clearly documented, and fast. We have about 8 assorted indexes, and just iterate through the lot, bringing back all hits found. It's still as close to instantaneous as makes no odds, and much easier than constructing DB searches. RET Sent from my iPhone On 07/02/2009, at 5:14 AM, Stuart Watt sw...@infobal.com wrote: Most of my work is search in Catalyst. I'll help. We've now got a web-service remote search system, a database SQL search, and a local search using a highly tweaked KinoSearch, all working fine and more or less pluggably. I am so happy with Catalyst, and when we get through our production deliverable (Tuesday) I'll happily collaborate on a search wiki. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
