Re: [cayugabirds-l] No hunting reminder in paper today

[Nancy Cusumano]

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Sandy  wrote:

> There is a nice reminder in the IThaca Times today, page 14. Thanks to the
> person who was behind this!  (Karen Edelstein?)
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[cayugabirds-l] Partially leucistic Canada Goose McGovern Fields

[Jeff Gerbracht]

I'd seen this bird at CLO a few days ago and at lunch today, I decided to
look over the large goose flock in the corn fields.   Pics embedded in the
eBird list for those interested

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park birds, plus OT comments

[Linda K Tuyn]

I appreciate all the information you have posted, and find it eloquently
stated.

Linda Tuyn

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:

> Late this morning I visited Stewart Park with binoculars and observed the
> following birds:
>
> Canada Goose - 27 on the lake near shore
> Mallard - 28 in the lake, both near shore and farther out, some mixed with
> Coots
> Mallard (domestic variety) - 1 continuing brown male with white breast
> Lesser Scaup - 1 female in flight low over lake off Stewart Park after jet
> ski activity
> COMMON GOLDENEYE - 2 females, the first of this species I have seen at the
> south end of the lake this fall
> Bufflehead - 7 males, 17 females, diving frequently. There were several
> times more last Thursday
> Hooded Merganser - 2 females & 1 male together on Fall Creek just upstream
> of suspension bridge
> small duck sp - 65 estimated, flushed from southwest corner of lake by
> person on fast jet ski
> Double-crested Cormorant - 4 immatures on log in lake
> American Coot - 14 in the lake both near shore and farther out near the
> southeast corner
> Ring-billed Gull - dozens spread out on lake, probably more on red
> lighthouse breakwater
> Herring Gull - a few (juveniles) spread out on lake, probably more on red
> lighthouse breakwater
> Great Black-backed Gull - several adults among other gulls on red
> lighthouse breakwater
> Pileated Woodpecker - heard giving intermittent "kek" calls from Jetty
> Woods, maybe upset at Merlin
> MERLIN - perched high in trees along north shore of Jetty Woods, changed
> perch twice
> Blue Jay - 2 heard in separate parts of park
> Black-capped Chickadee - 2 or 3 in vegetation near southwest corner of
> Fuertes Sanctuary pond
> European Starling - 30 etimated in southbound flyover flock
>
> If previous discussions I initiated in the last week or two affected your
> blood pressure, stop here.
>
> I feel more comfortable sharing lists of waterfowl in the south end of
> Cayuga Lake now that the City of Ithaca has declared it will enforce its
> prohibitions on hunting and discharging firearms within the city limits,
> including its portion of the lake. I think some people may use
> CayugaBirds-L and eBird reports to decide where to try to shoot them. The
> south end of Cayuga Lake is a premier place for the public to view a
> diversity of water birds, but that is greatly hampered when the birds are
> deliberately disturbed. I think most readers of this list are aware of the
> birding value of Stewart Park (and Treman Marine State Park), so I didn’t
> feel I needed to add that to an already lengthy post about my encounter a
> week ago. Anyway, for the record, that is why I felt a discussion of what
> happened between myself and a few other people on land was appropriate for
> the CayugaBirds listserv. Since I only mentioned Buffleheads (which were
> closest and most numerous), not the 2 first-of-season male Redheads among
> the Coot flock that day, nor the Common Loon I saw farther out, I concede
> that I probably should have prefaced the subject line with “OT” for "off
> topic", to warn away people who only want to read lists of birds.
>
> On the subject of deliberate disturbance of birds, during my visit today I
> saw someone on a red jet ski drive at high speed out of Cayuga Inlet
> between the lighthouses and into the lake, and shortly afterward also at
> high speed drive into the southwest corner of the lake, flushing an
> estimated 65 waterfowl - small ducks, I believe - northward. After resting
> a couple minutes this same person went back up Cayuga Inlet again at
> considerable speed without having done anything else which caught my eye.
> This activity was within the portion of the lake where the City of Ithaca
> has declared shooting ducks to be illegal. If this was done in order to
> flush waterfowl to where they could be legally shot, I believe it would be
> an illegal act.
>
> To the couple people who said my post last week was political, yes it was.
> It was about government policy, what our laws are, how they are
> interpreted, whether people obey them, and how to get them enforced. That’s
> practically the definition of politics. The particular policy and law i
> brought up affect park users and birding. That’s us. I also sent that post
> to the head of Friends of Stewart Park. Many people on this listserv may
> think duck-hunting is a fine thing to do, but how many also think this is a
> reasonable version: “Let’s go down to the city park and shoot the ducks.” I
> suspect that such a suggestion is not very popular among residents of the
> City of Ithaca, so I support my government making the rules I have
> mentioned, and enforcing them. Now add these twists: "Let’s go shoot ducks
> alongside an afterschool activity, and let’s set up our ambush right next
> to the mouth of Fall Creek where rowers quietly enter the lake.*” That’s
> where I’ve seen those guys set up before, and I have every reason to
> believe 

[cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park birds, plus OT comments

[Dave Nutter]

Late this morning I visited Stewart Park with binoculars and observed the 
following birds:

Canada Goose - 27 on the lake near shore
Mallard - 28 in the lake, both near shore and farther out, some mixed with Coots
Mallard (domestic variety) - 1 continuing brown male with white breast 
Lesser Scaup - 1 female in flight low over lake off Stewart Park after jet ski 
activity
COMMON GOLDENEYE - 2 females, the first of this species I have seen at the 
south end of the lake this fall
Bufflehead - 7 males, 17 females, diving frequently. There were several times 
more last Thursday
Hooded Merganser - 2 females & 1 male together on Fall Creek just upstream of 
suspension bridge 
small duck sp - 65 estimated, flushed from southwest corner of lake by person 
on fast jet ski
Double-crested Cormorant - 4 immatures on log in lake
American Coot - 14 in the lake both near shore and farther out near the 
southeast corner
Ring-billed Gull - dozens spread out on lake, probably more on red lighthouse 
breakwater
Herring Gull - a few (juveniles) spread out on lake, probably more on red 
lighthouse breakwater
Great Black-backed Gull - several adults among other gulls on red lighthouse 
breakwater
Pileated Woodpecker - heard giving intermittent "kek" calls from Jetty Woods, 
maybe upset at Merlin
MERLIN - perched high in trees along north shore of Jetty Woods, changed perch 
twice
Blue Jay - 2 heard in separate parts of park
Black-capped Chickadee - 2 or 3 in vegetation near southwest corner of Fuertes 
Sanctuary pond
European Starling - 30 etimated in southbound flyover flock

If previous discussions I initiated in the last week or two affected your blood 
pressure, stop here.

I feel more comfortable sharing lists of waterfowl in the south end of Cayuga 
Lake now that the City of Ithaca has declared it will enforce its prohibitions 
on hunting and discharging firearms within the city limits, including its 
portion of the lake. I think some people may use CayugaBirds-L and eBird 
reports to decide where to try to shoot them. The south end of Cayuga Lake is a 
premier place for the public to view a diversity of water birds, but that is 
greatly hampered when the birds are deliberately disturbed. I think most 
readers of this list are aware of the birding value of Stewart Park (and Treman 
Marine State Park), so I didn’t feel I needed to add that to an already lengthy 
post about my encounter a week ago. Anyway, for the record, that is why I felt 
a discussion of what happened between myself and a few other people on land was 
appropriate for the CayugaBirds listserv. Since I only mentioned Buffleheads 
(which were closest and most numerous), not the 2 first-of-season male Redheads 
among the Coot flock that day, nor the Common Loon I saw farther out, I concede 
that I probably should have prefaced the subject line with “OT” for "off 
topic", to warn away people who only want to read lists of birds.

On the subject of deliberate disturbance of birds, during my visit today I saw 
someone on a red jet ski drive at high speed out of Cayuga Inlet between the 
lighthouses and into the lake, and shortly afterward also at high speed drive 
into the southwest corner of the lake, flushing an estimated 65 waterfowl - 
small ducks, I believe - northward. After resting a couple minutes this same 
person went back up Cayuga Inlet again at considerable speed without having 
done anything else which caught my eye. This activity was within the portion of 
the lake where the City of Ithaca has declared shooting ducks to be illegal. If 
this was done in order to flush waterfowl to where they could be legally shot, 
I believe it would be an illegal act.  

To the couple people who said my post last week was political, yes it was. It 
was about government policy, what our laws are, how they are interpreted, 
whether people obey them, and how to get them enforced. That’s practically the 
definition of politics. The particular policy and law i brought up affect park 
users and birding. That’s us. I also sent that post to the head of Friends of 
Stewart Park. Many people on this listserv may think duck-hunting is a fine 
thing to do, but how many also think this is a reasonable version: “Let’s go 
down to the city park and shoot the ducks.” I suspect that such a suggestion is 
not very popular among residents of the City of Ithaca, so I support my 
government making the rules I have mentioned, and enforcing them. Now add these 
twists: "Let’s go shoot ducks alongside an afterschool activity, and let’s set 
up our ambush right next to the mouth of Fall Creek where rowers quietly enter 
the lake.*” That’s where I’ve seen those guys set up before, and I have every 
reason to believe that’s exactly what they were about to do. If their own 
judgement doesn’t stop them from doing that, I think it’s time for the police 
to do so. As to taking offense at my mention of the kids gathering nearby, 
those were the facts of the situation. Elaina’s photo showed a 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] No hunting reminder in paper today

[Geo Kloppel]

Yes, Karen's map. The rest is just a word-for-word repeat of the police notice 
that Ken gave us a few days ago.

I can't quite tell from the map  whether the isolated cluster of lighted 
pilings that marks the city's wastewater outfall is in or out. (I think that's 
what it marks, anyway, and I suspect it's out beyond the city line. Anybody 
know?)

-Geo Kloppel

On Nov 19, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Nancy Cusumano  wrote:

> It's Karen's map I believe, she is a local GIS specialist
> 
> Cayuga Dog Rescue has saved more than 500! dogs since 2005!
> Learn more at cayugadogrescue.org
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Sandy  wrote:
>> There is a nice reminder in the IThaca Times today, page 14. Thanks to the 
>> person who was behind this!  (Karen Edelstein?)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] No hunting reminder in paper today

[Geo Kloppel]

Per NOAA navigation chart #14791 I've come to believe that the far pilings are 
OUT, well beyond the city's cross-lake boundary.

-Geo 

> I can't quite tell from the map  whether the isolated cluster of lighted 
> pilings that marks the city's wastewater outfall is in or out.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park birds, plus OT comments

[John and Fritzie Blizzard]

Brief & to the point but I agree with Linda Tuyn. I wish I could write 
as well as has Dave.


Fritzie Blizzard.

On 11/19/2015 8:50 PM, Linda K Tuyn wrote:

I appreciate all the information you have posted, and find it eloquently 
stated.



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[cayugabirds-l] No hunting reminder in paper today

[Sandy]

There is a nice reminder in the IThaca Times today, page 14. Thanks to the 
person who was behind this!  (Karen Edelstein?)

Sent from my iPhone
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