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Re: [cayugabirds-l] RUFF location- made easy E-bird!!!

2017-07-11 Thread Dave Nutter

Yes, all those methods of finding a site work... for some people... at some 
times. But for folks who are traveling and do not have internet but do have 
text messaging, and I am in that category, it makes sense to me to add a bit of 
traffic to the text rare bird alert system to clarify the location, thus making 
the alert more functional. To me, this is not the same as unnecessary replies, 
small talk, or off-topic messages on the rare bird alert which also get sent to 
everyone. Theoretically, complete directions would be best given as part of the 
initial alert, but I like to keep my eye on the rare bird as much as possible, 
not on my phone, because more than once rare birds have used the opportunity to 
leave while I am distracted sending out the alert. In practice, when someone 
asks for directions, I think that's also a very good time to give them, rather 
than adding traffic by giving someone a hard time.
--Dave Nutter

> On Jul 11, 2017, at 7:15 PM, David Nicosia  wrote:
> 
> You don't need a smartphone to look at ebird. A computer with internet access 
> is all you need. You don't even need an ebird account. 
> Just gotoebird.org   and click "explore data" and then you have a choice  
>  "explore a region"   "explore hotspots" or "species maps."
> There are multiple ways to find where birds are being seen. 
>  
> Here is one waygo to "species maps" and type in RUFF or whatever specie 
> you want. Change the date to the current year etc, and zoom
> into central NY. You will see markers where the bird of interest is being 
> seen. Change the map to the satellite view and zoom way in. You 
> could see where the parking area is in many instances. If the bird is being 
> seen at a hotspot there are directions via google maps.  
> They are other ways too.
> 
> I know there are folks who know far more about ebird than I and we are 
> fortunate that they are at the Lab of O. I am sure there are
> many people that can assist you. If you get an account, you can set up rare 
> bird alerts, needs alerts per county or state etc. You will
> get emailed daily or even  hourly if you so choose. It has revolutionized how 
> I bird over the past dozen years or so. 
> 
> Sorry if I sounded a little harsh but I hate to see people struggling to get 
> the info they need that is so readily available. 
> 
> thanks
> Dave Nicosia 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Donna Lee Scott  wrote:
>> As others on this bird list have pointed out in the past, it would be 
>> helpful to all listers if people who provide a bird alert would take an 
>> extra minute to write briefly the route # or street name & approximate 
>> location, if possible. If one is already taking time to alert people, why 
>> not give enuf info so people know where bird actually is?
>> 
>> "Ruff at 'Kipp I. South' off NYS Rt. 90 next to south side of Thruway 
>> between US Rt. 20 & village of Montezuma" , for instance. 
>> 
>> Two cents from a retired dispenser of all sorts of info from Cornell 
>> Cooperative Extension. 
>> 
>> Donna Scott
>> Who bought a smart phone so she could get bird apps , but hasn't learned 
>> enuf about what else phone can do, OR about eBird use. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Jody Enck  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dave and all,
>>> 
>>> thanks for the info, but I do not have a smart phone.  My little trac-fone 
>>> does not even save phone numbers.  I can reply to text message I receive 
>>> from RBA, but I have no GPS on it.  And, I cannot access eBird on it.
>>> 
>>> Please remember that more than half (52% according to most recent research 
>>> I have seen) of ebird users (much higher for birders in general) still do 
>>> not have a smart phone.  
>>> 
>>> Also, just so everyone knows how mysterious the location is -- I stopped at 
>>> the Montezuma village post office and the town office building, and nobody 
>>> at either location had ever heard of it.  
>>> 
>>> Sorry to all for clogging the RBA with questions about where the location 
>>> was, but what good is an RBA if the majority of the people who might be 
>>> interested in seeing a bird have no idea where the location is?  Seems to 
>>> me that asking for a location is a legitimate follow-up use of the RBA text 
>>> system.  But that is just my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for providing some help, but please don't assume that we can't find 
>>> locations because we don't use eBird.  I enter all my sightings from my 
>>> laptop at home.
>>> 
>>> take care,
>>> Jody
>>> 
 On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:00 PM, David Nicosia  
 wrote:
 If you use ebird, they have maps and locations in a format
 that you can zoom in so far to see exactly where the bird
 of interest is. I never even heard of Kipps Island before but I found
 the hotspot  on ebird and it was very easy to find. Often, if a bird
 is not seen in a hotspot, a "stakeout" hotspot is created,
 like the one for the Dickcissel on Kingdom Road for
 exa

Re: [cayugabirds-l] RUFF location- made easy E-bird!!!

2017-07-11 Thread David Nicosia

You *don't need a smartphone* to look at ebird. A computer with internet
access is all you need. You don't even need an ebird account.
Just gotoebird.org   and click "explore data" and then you have a
choice   "explore a region"   "explore hotspots" or "species maps."
There are multiple ways to find where birds are being seen.

Here is one waygo to "species maps" and type in RUFF or whatever specie
you want. Change the date to the current year etc, and zoom
into central NY. You will see markers where the bird of interest is being
seen. Change the map to the satellite view and zoom way in. You
could see where the parking area is in many instances. If the bird is being
seen at a hotspot there are directions via google maps.
They are other ways too.

I know there are folks who know far more about ebird than I and we are
fortunate that they are at the Lab of O. I am sure there are
many people that can assist you. If you get an account, you can set up rare
bird alerts, needs alerts per county or state etc. You will
get emailed daily or even  hourly if you so choose. It has revolutionized
how I bird over the past dozen years or so.

Sorry if I sounded a little harsh but I hate to see people struggling to
get the info they need that is so readily available.

thanks
Dave Nicosia

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Donna Lee Scott  wrote:

> As others on this bird list have pointed out in the past, it would be
> helpful to all listers if people who provide a bird alert would take an
> extra minute to write briefly the route # or street name & approximate
> location, if possible. If one is already taking time to alert people, why
> not give enuf info so people know where bird actually is?
>
> "Ruff at 'Kipp I. South' off NYS Rt. 90 next to south side of Thruway
> between US Rt. 20 & village of Montezuma" , for instance.
>
> Two cents from a retired dispenser of all sorts of info from Cornell
> Cooperative Extension.
>
> Donna Scott
> Who bought a smart phone so she could get bird apps , but hasn't learned
> enuf about what else phone can do, OR about eBird use.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Jody Enck  wrote:
>
> Hi Dave and all,
>
> thanks for the info, but I do not have a smart phone.  My little trac-fone
> does not even save phone numbers.  I can reply to text message I receive
> from RBA, but I have no GPS on it.  And, I cannot access eBird on it.
>
> Please remember that more than half (52% according to most recent research
> I have seen) of ebird users (much higher for birders in general) still do
> not have a smart phone.
>
> Also, just so everyone knows how mysterious the location is -- I stopped
> at the Montezuma village post office and the town office building, and
> nobody at either location had ever heard of it.
>
> Sorry to all for clogging the RBA with questions about where the location
> was, but what good is an RBA if the majority of the people who might be
> interested in seeing a bird have no idea where the location is?  Seems to
> me that asking for a location is a legitimate follow-up use of the RBA text
> system.  But that is just my opinion.
>
> Thanks for providing some help, but please don't assume that we can't find
> locations because we don't use eBird.  I enter all my sightings from my
> laptop at home.
>
> take care,
> Jody
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:00 PM, David Nicosia 
> wrote:
>
>> If you use ebird, they have maps and locations in a format
>> that you can zoom in so far to see exactly where the bird
>> of interest is. I never even heard of Kipps Island before but I found
>> the hotspot  on ebird and it was very easy to find. Often, if a bird
>> is not seen in a hotspot, a "stakeout" hotspot is created,
>> like the one for the Dickcissel on Kingdom Road for
>> example in Seneca Falls.
>>
>> I highly recommend folks learn and use ebird. Makes life
>> very easy when chasing rare birds reported by others...
>>
>> Dave Nicosia
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] RUFF location- made easy E-bird!!!

2017-07-11 Thread Donna Lee Scott

I was going to add that about Kipp not being an actual island anymore, but i 
was already being chatty enuf!

Donna Scott
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Donna Lee Scott 
mailto:d...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

As others on this bird list have pointed out in the past, it would be helpful 
to all listers if people who provide a bird alert would take an extra minute to 
write briefly the route # or street name & approximate location, if possible. 
If one is already taking time to alert people, why not give enuf info so people 
know where bird actually is?

"Ruff at 'Kipp I. South' off NYS Rt. 90 next to south side of Thruway between 
US Rt. 20 & village of Montezuma" , for instance.

Two cents from a retired dispenser of all sorts of info from Cornell 
Cooperative Extension.

Donna Scott
Who bought a smart phone so she could get bird apps , but hasn't learned enuf 
about what else phone can do, OR about eBird use.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Jody Enck 
mailto:jodye...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Dave and all,

thanks for the info, but I do not have a smart phone.  My little trac-fone does 
not even save phone numbers.  I can reply to text message I receive from RBA, 
but I have no GPS on it.  And, I cannot access eBird on it.

Please remember that more than half (52% according to most recent research I 
have seen) of ebird users (much higher for birders in general) still do not 
have a smart phone.

Also, just so everyone knows how mysterious the location is -- I stopped at the 
Montezuma village post office and the town office building, and nobody at 
either location had ever heard of it.

Sorry to all for clogging the RBA with questions about where the location was, 
but what good is an RBA if the majority of the people who might be interested 
in seeing a bird have no idea where the location is?  Seems to me that asking 
for a location is a legitimate follow-up use of the RBA text system.  But that 
is just my opinion.

Thanks for providing some help, but please don't assume that we can't find 
locations because we don't use eBird.  I enter all my sightings from my laptop 
at home.

take care,
Jody

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:00 PM, David Nicosia 
mailto:daven102...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If you use ebird, they have maps and locations in a format
that you can zoom in so far to see exactly where the bird
of interest is. I never even heard of Kipps Island before but I found
the hotspot  on ebird and it was very easy to find. Often, if a bird
is not seen in a hotspot, a "stakeout" hotspot is created,
like the one for the Dickcissel on Kingdom Road for
example in Seneca Falls.

I highly recommend folks learn and use ebird. Makes life
very easy when chasing rare birds reported by others...

Dave Nicosia
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] RUFF location- made easy E-bird!!!

2017-07-11 Thread Suan Hsi Yong

And it doesn't help that Kipp Island isn't even an island (anymore). :-)

Suan

PS. I posted on Facebook a couple of digiscoped videos of the ruff form
Sunday. Should be viewable without a Facebook account:

https://www.facebook.com/suan.yong/videos/pcb.1382246361813175/10213924592766922/
https://www.facebook.com/suan.yong/videos/pcb.1382246361813175/10213924593126931/

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] RUFF location- made easy E-bird!!!

2017-07-11 Thread Donna Lee Scott

As others on this bird list have pointed out in the past, it would be helpful 
to all listers if people who provide a bird alert would take an extra minute to 
write briefly the route # or street name & approximate location, if possible. 
If one is already taking time to alert people, why not give enuf info so people 
know where bird actually is?

"Ruff at 'Kipp I. South' off NYS Rt. 90 next to south side of Thruway between 
US Rt. 20 & village of Montezuma" , for instance.

Two cents from a retired dispenser of all sorts of info from Cornell 
Cooperative Extension.

Donna Scott
Who bought a smart phone so she could get bird apps , but hasn't learned enuf 
about what else phone can do, OR about eBird use.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Jody Enck 
mailto:jodye...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Dave and all,

thanks for the info, but I do not have a smart phone.  My little trac-fone does 
not even save phone numbers.  I can reply to text message I receive from RBA, 
but I have no GPS on it.  And, I cannot access eBird on it.

Please remember that more than half (52% according to most recent research I 
have seen) of ebird users (much higher for birders in general) still do not 
have a smart phone.

Also, just so everyone knows how mysterious the location is -- I stopped at the 
Montezuma village post office and the town office building, and nobody at 
either location had ever heard of it.

Sorry to all for clogging the RBA with questions about where the location was, 
but what good is an RBA if the majority of the people who might be interested 
in seeing a bird have no idea where the location is?  Seems to me that asking 
for a location is a legitimate follow-up use of the RBA text system.  But that 
is just my opinion.

Thanks for providing some help, but please don't assume that we can't find 
locations because we don't use eBird.  I enter all my sightings from my laptop 
at home.

take care,
Jody

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:00 PM, David Nicosia 
mailto:daven102...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If you use ebird, they have maps and locations in a format
that you can zoom in so far to see exactly where the bird
of interest is. I never even heard of Kipps Island before but I found
the hotspot  on ebird and it was very easy to find. Often, if a bird
is not seen in a hotspot, a "stakeout" hotspot is created,
like the one for the Dickcissel on Kingdom Road for
example in Seneca Falls.

I highly recommend folks learn and use ebird. Makes life
very easy when chasing rare birds reported by others...

Dave Nicosia
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[cayugabirds-l] Earth's sixth mass extinction event under way, scientists warn | Environment | The Guardian

2017-07-11 Thread Regi Teasley

On our watch

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/10/earths-sixth-mass-extinction-event-already-underway-scientists-warn


Regi
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] RUFF location- made easy E-bird!!!

2017-07-11 Thread Jody Enck

Hi Dave and all,

thanks for the info, but I do not have a smart phone.  My little trac-fone
does not even save phone numbers.  I can reply to text message I receive
from RBA, but I have no GPS on it.  And, I cannot access eBird on it.

Please remember that more than half (52% according to most recent research
I have seen) of ebird users (much higher for birders in general) still do
not have a smart phone.

Also, just so everyone knows how mysterious the location is -- I stopped at
the Montezuma village post office and the town office building, and nobody
at either location had ever heard of it.

Sorry to all for clogging the RBA with questions about where the location
was, but what good is an RBA if the majority of the people who might be
interested in seeing a bird have no idea where the location is?  Seems to
me that asking for a location is a legitimate follow-up use of the RBA text
system.  But that is just my opinion.

Thanks for providing some help, but please don't assume that we can't find
locations because we don't use eBird.  I enter all my sightings from my
laptop at home.

take care,
Jody

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:00 PM, David Nicosia 
wrote:

> If you use ebird, they have maps and locations in a format
> that you can zoom in so far to see exactly where the bird
> of interest is. I never even heard of Kipps Island before but I found
> the hotspot  on ebird and it was very easy to find. Often, if a bird
> is not seen in a hotspot, a "stakeout" hotspot is created,
> like the one for the Dickcissel on Kingdom Road for
> example in Seneca Falls.
>
> I highly recommend folks learn and use ebird. Makes life
> very easy when chasing rare birds reported by others...
>
> Dave Nicosia
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[cayugabirds-l] RUFF location- made easy E-bird!!!

2017-07-11 Thread David Nicosia

If you use ebird, they have maps and locations in a format
that you can zoom in so far to see exactly where the bird
of interest is. I never even heard of Kipps Island before but I found
the hotspot  on ebird and it was very easy to find. Often, if a bird
is not seen in a hotspot, a "stakeout" hotspot is created,
like the one for the Dickcissel on Kingdom Road for
example in Seneca Falls.

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Dave Nicosia

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[cayugabirds-l] Downy feeding young

2017-07-11 Thread W. Larry Hymes

Sara Jane and I were amused this morning by the actions of two young 
downy woodpeckers being fed by the mother at our shell peanut feeder.  
They were obviously trying to get the hang of foraging for food.  They 
would peck randomly on whatever they could find, including the top of 
our platform feeder and even a metal post.  While the mother was 
extracting bits of peanut seed from the feeder, one of the young landed 
next to her and gave it a go at pecking on the peanut shells, but with 
little success.  I can imagine it thinking, "How am I suppose to do 
this.  I can't seem to make it work.  You make it look so easy!"  Unlike 
us humans who might become impatient with of our young for not getting 
it right, the mother downy just kept pecking away and feeding the 
young.  She knows that "leading by example" is the best teaching method, 
and the young birds would very soon be able to forage on their own.


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