Re: [cayugabirds-l] Conservation vs Ecology

[Colleen Richards]

Thank you Dave for a clear, concise presentation that helps point out the 
multiple problems facing us in choosing how we want to live. Ultimate value 
choices may not be agreed upon by everyone, though. And that has been apparent 
in these posts. Thanks for being honest about how birds can be affected by each 
form of energy's procurement / usage. That perspective helps to "round out" the 
information needed for each person's decision-making. In the end, each of us is 
required to make our own choices, and perhaps to enter into the public, or 
political, arena to stand up for those choices. It has been good to voice our 
thoughts and to encourage one another to keep perspective. For now I am 
planning to continue to point out the beauties of nature to those around me and 
to educate young people (and older ones, too) to appreciate and understand our 
responsibility to care for and about this world that we have been blessed with. 
Colleen Richards

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From: Dave Nutter 
To: CayugaBirds-L b 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Conservation vs Ecology
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 17:43:26 -0400


Carl makes a valid point about the destructiveness to flora and fauna of 
large scale solar arrays. Solar panels which cover huge fields should be called 
mines, not farms. The arraysâ extraction of energy is industrial, 
not biological, and it is done while trying to overcome natural systems, so the 
solar arrays disrupt biology. By contrast, a farm harnesses biology using our 
soil and rain, and it diverts some of the biological products to human purposes 
in a repeatable annual process. When agriculture is practiced on the scale of a 
family farm, it can do so in concert with plants and wildlife in hedgerows, 
along streams, and around ponds, and agricultureâs incidental 
waste products can be more easily absorbed and used by nature along all those 
edges. Factory farms differ from traditional farms because with 
âefficiencyâ� of scale, they eliminate nature and 
natureâs ability to handle agricultureâs side 
effects. At large scale, the waste is no longer incidental and absorbed, it is 
toxic.  If farm land is abandoned, it can be reclaimed by plants and animals. 
When the solar panels wear out in a couple decades, will the regulations make 
it worth the effort and expense to recycle the old ones and install new ones? 
Or will it be cheaper to abandon those arrays? On my daily walks I see metal 
playground equipment in the woods because the City of Ithaca took it from where 
the Childrenâs Garden was being built, and chucked it alongside 
the old railroad grade, which became the Black Diamond Trail. I imagine 
hundreds of acres of metal of a big solar array, but overgrown among trees, 
vines and shrubs.  For a solar array to work in our climate, vegetation must 
suppressed. This can be done by pasturing sheep among them, which makes cute 
advertising video, but how often is this practice used? How often is plant 
suppression done instead by covering and/or poisoning the soil? This has 
effects of heating the ground and speeding rain runoff. How often is plant 
suppression among solar arrays done with fossil-fuel powered machinery which 
also wastes the plant material? Maybe folks think thatâs no big 
deal because so much land area is already mown, wasting both plants and fossil 
fuel, but I think mowing should be drastically scaled back. A reasonable sized 
personal lawn is the area a person can keep mowed with a reel mower pushed by 
hand without using fossil fuel. Itâs not worth adding to the 
destruction of the natural climate, flora, and fauna in order to have a bigger 
lawn than one actually uses.  So, yes, I agree, big solar arrays are poor for 
plants & animals. I also see at least 3 other parts to the equation as we 
evaluate the harm and benefit of solar arrays. What did the solar arrays 
replace on the landscape? What were the solar arrays built instead of for 
energy? How much energy do we need?  In our moist temperate region, the land 
was mostly forested until being cleared for agriculture, which was a big 
investment. Abandoned agricultural land can, through succession, become 
meadows, shrub fields, and secondary forest, all of which harbor a wide variety 
of birds, but thatâs a value we take for granted, not one with a 
price tag on it. People generally like and are uplifted by wild birds, and some 
of us are passionate about them. But abandoned farmland is considered 
âunproductiveâ� by those who tax the land, and therefore 
also by those who own the land, so this habitat is apt to be shredded and 
converted to a large scale solar array. Iâve certainly seen that 
happen. If we as a society can literally value land which supports a diversity 
of birds, then less will be turned into long-term non-bird-habitat.  My 
impression is that most agricultural land around here is for corn, and 
Iâve also seen some cornfields replaced by solar arrays. 
Whatâs the impact on birds? 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Conservation vs Ecology

[sarah fern]

About that trip to Mars: How can we justify spending $$ on Mars adventures
when we have so much to do to preserve this planet and keep it liveable for
generations of all species in the future? People in this country are dying
because of misspent funds, plus we are causing extinctions constantly.

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 3:49 PM Regi Teasley  wrote:

> Dave,
>Thank you for this thoughtful response.  This is a very important
> conversation.
> I wanted to share something I saved from The NY Times,  Oct . 17, 2021 by
> Carin Einhorn.  I think it’s about the conference on Biodiversity (part of
> COP 27?):
>
> The debate underscores a central tension coursing through the biodiversity
> negotiations.
> “If this becomes purely a conservation plan for nature, this is going to
> fail,” said Basil van Havre, a leader, with Mr. Ogwal, of one of the
> convention’s working groups. “What we need is a plan for nature and for
> people.”
>   With the global human population still increasing, scientists say that
> transformational change is required for the planet to be able to sustain us.
> **  “We actually need to see every human endeavor, if you will, through
> the lens of biodiversity and nature,” Dr. Lariguaderie said.  Since
> everyone depends on nature, she noted, “everyone is part of the solution.”
>
> (** my emphasis)
> ———
>
> Frankly, my opinion, if anyone is interested, is that we should be
> very thankful to live on this marvelous planet with its thin film of
> biodiversity.   We should grow up and realize that we are one species among
> so many, and a latecomer at that.  Our myths must change now so that we can
> cooperate and self-restrain rather than foolishly thinking we can dominate
> nature.  Every other species has as much “right” to live here as we do.
> For those who are happy to live with humans on a dead planet, I urge them
> to plan to go to Mars.  That might be possible before too long.  Meanwhile,
> let’s love and cherish our Mother Earth now.  Here I quote a Turkish
> proverb:  “No matter how far you have gone down the wrong road, turn back.”
>
> ‘Nuff said.
> Regi
>
> 
> Creativity is the heart of adaptive evolution.
> Terry Tempest Williams
>
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2023, at 5:43 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
>
> 
> Carl makes a valid point about the destructiveness to flora and fauna of
> large scale solar arrays. Solar panels which cover huge fields should be
> called mines, not farms. The arrays’ extraction of energy is industrial,
> not biological, and it is done while trying to overcome natural systems, so
> the solar arrays disrupt biology. By contrast, a farm harnesses biology
> using our soil and rain, and it diverts some of the biological products to
> human purposes in a repeatable annual process. When agriculture is
> practiced on the scale of a family farm, it can do so in concert with
> plants and wildlife in hedgerows, along streams, and around ponds, and
> agriculture’s incidental waste products can be more easily absorbed and
> used by nature along all those edges. Factory farms differ from traditional
> farms because with “efficiency” of scale, they eliminate nature and
> nature’s ability to handle agriculture’s side effects. At large scale, the
> waste is no longer incidental and absorbed, it is toxic.
>
> If farm land is abandoned, it can be reclaimed by plants and animals. When
> the solar panels wear out in a couple decades, will the regulations make it
> worth the effort and expense to recycle the old ones and install new ones?
> Or will it be cheaper to abandon those arrays? On my daily walks I see
> metal playground equipment in the woods because the City of Ithaca took it
> from where the Children’s Garden was being built, and chucked it alongside
> the old railroad grade, which became the Black Diamond Trail. I imagine
> hundreds of acres of metal of a big solar array, but overgrown among trees,
> vines and shrubs.
>
> For a solar array to work in our climate, vegetation must suppressed. This
> can be done by pasturing sheep among them, which makes cute advertising
> video, but how often is this practice used? How often is plant suppression
> done instead by covering and/or poisoning the soil? This has effects of
> heating the ground and speeding rain runoff. How often is plant suppression
> among solar arrays done with fossil-fuel powered machinery which also
> wastes the plant material? Maybe folks think that’s no big deal because so
> much land area is already mown, wasting both plants and fossil fuel, but I
> think mowing should be drastically scaled back. A reasonable sized personal
> lawn is the area a person can keep mowed with a reel mower pushed by hand
> without using fossil fuel. It’s not worth adding to the destruction of the
> natural climate, flora, and fauna in order to have a bigger lawn than one
> actually uses.
>
> So, yes, I agree, big solar arrays are poor for plants & animals. I also
> see at least 3 other parts to the equation as we 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Conservation vs Ecology

[Regi Teasley]

Dave,   Thank you for this thoughtful response.  This is a very important conversation.I wanted to share something I saved from The NY Times,  Oct . 17, 2021 by Carin Einhorn.  I think it’s about the conference on Biodiversity (part of COP 27?):    The debate underscores a central tension coursing through the biodiversity negotiations.  “If this becomes purely a conservation plan for nature, this is going to fail,” said Basil van Havre, a leader, with Mr. Ogwal, of one of the convention’s working groups. “What we need is a plan for nature and for people.”  With the global human population still increasing, scientists say that transformational change is required for the planet to be able to sustain us.**  “We actually need to see every human endeavor, if you will, through the lens of biodiversity and nature,” Dr. Lariguaderie said.  Since everyone depends on nature, she noted, “everyone is part of the solution.”(** my emphasis)———    Frankly, my opinion, if anyone is interested, is that we should be very thankful to live on this marvelous planet with its thin film of biodiversity.   We should grow up and realize that we are one species among so many, and a latecomer at that.  Our myths must change now so that we can cooperate and self-restrain rather than foolishly thinking we can dominate nature.  Every other species has as much “right” to live here as we do.  For those who are happy to live with humans on a dead planet, I urge them to plan to go to Mars.  That might be possible before too long.  Meanwhile, let’s love and cherish our Mother Earth now.  Here I quote a Turkish proverb:  “No matter how far you have gone down the wrong road, turn back.”‘Nuff said.RegiCreativity is the heart of adaptive evolution.Terry Tempest WilliamsOn Jun 7, 2023, at 5:43 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:Carl makes a valid point about the destructiveness to flora and fauna of large scale solar arrays. Solar panels which cover huge fields should be called mines, not farms. The arrays’ extraction of energy is industrial, not biological, and it is done while trying to overcome natural systems, so the solar arrays disrupt biology. By contrast, a farm harnesses biology using our soil and rain, and it diverts some of the biological products to human purposes in a repeatable annual process. When agriculture is practiced on the scale of a family farm, it can do so in concert with plants and wildlife in hedgerows, along streams, and around ponds, and agriculture’s incidental waste products can be more easily absorbed and used by nature along all those edges. Factory farms differ from traditional farms because with “efficiency” of scale, they eliminate nature and nature’s ability to handle agriculture’s side effects. At large scale, the waste is no longer incidental and absorbed, it is toxic. If farm land is abandoned, it can be reclaimed by plants and animals. When the solar panels wear out in a couple decades, will the regulations make it worth the effort and expense to recycle the old ones and install new ones? Or will it be cheaper to abandon those arrays? On my daily walks I see metal playground equipment in the woods because the City of Ithaca took it from where the Children’s Garden was being built, and chucked it alongside the old railroad grade, which became the Black Diamond Trail. I imagine hundreds of acres of metal of a big solar array, but overgrown among trees, vines and shrubs. For a solar array to work in our climate, vegetation must suppressed. This can be done by pasturing sheep among them, which makes cute advertising video, but how often is this practice used? How often is plant suppression done instead by covering and/or poisoning the soil? This has effects of heating the ground and speeding rain runoff. How often is plant suppression among solar arrays done with fossil-fuel powered machinery which also wastes the plant material? Maybe folks think that’s no big deal because so much land area is already mown, wasting both plants and fossil fuel, but I think mowing should be drastically scaled back. A reasonable sized personal lawn is the area a person can keep mowed with a reel mower pushed by hand without using fossil fuel. It’s not worth adding to the destruction of the natural climate, flora, and fauna in order to have a bigger lawn than one actually uses. So, yes, I agree, big solar arrays are poor for plants & animals. I also see at least 3 other parts to the equation as we evaluate the harm and benefit of solar arrays. What did the solar arrays replace on the landscape? What were the solar arrays built instead of for energy? How much energy do we need? In our moist temperate region, the land was mostly forested until being cleared for agriculture, which was a big investment. Abandoned agricultural land can, through succession, become meadows, shrub fields, and secondary forest, all of which harbor a wide variety of birds, but that’s a value we take for granted, not one with a price tag on it. People 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Conservation vs Ecology

[Dave Nutter]

Carl makes a valid point about the destructiveness to flora and fauna of large 
scale solar arrays. Solar panels which cover huge fields should be called 
mines, not farms. The arrays’ extraction of energy is industrial, not 
biological, and it is done while trying to overcome natural systems, so the 
solar arrays disrupt biology. By contrast, a farm harnesses biology using our 
soil and rain, and it diverts some of the biological products to human purposes 
in a repeatable annual process. When agriculture is practiced on the scale of a 
family farm, it can do so in concert with plants and wildlife in hedgerows, 
along streams, and around ponds, and agriculture’s incidental waste products 
can be more easily absorbed and used by nature along all those edges. Factory 
farms differ from traditional farms because with “efficiency” of scale, they 
eliminate nature and nature’s ability to handle agriculture’s side effects. At 
large scale, the waste is no longer incidental and absorbed, it is toxic. 

If farm land is abandoned, it can be reclaimed by plants and animals. When the 
solar panels wear out in a couple decades, will the regulations make it worth 
the effort and expense to recycle the old ones and install new ones? Or will it 
be cheaper to abandon those arrays? On my daily walks I see metal playground 
equipment in the woods because the City of Ithaca took it from where the 
Children’s Garden was being built, and chucked it alongside the old railroad 
grade, which became the Black Diamond Trail. I imagine hundreds of acres of 
metal of a big solar array, but overgrown among trees, vines and shrubs. 

For a solar array to work in our climate, vegetation must suppressed. This can 
be done by pasturing sheep among them, which makes cute advertising video, but 
how often is this practice used? How often is plant suppression done instead by 
covering and/or poisoning the soil? This has effects of heating the ground and 
speeding rain runoff. How often is plant suppression among solar arrays done 
with fossil-fuel powered machinery which also wastes the plant material? Maybe 
folks think that’s no big deal because so much land area is already mown, 
wasting both plants and fossil fuel, but I think mowing should be drastically 
scaled back. A reasonable sized personal lawn is the area a person can keep 
mowed with a reel mower pushed by hand without using fossil fuel. It’s not 
worth adding to the destruction of the natural climate, flora, and fauna in 
order to have a bigger lawn than one actually uses. 

So, yes, I agree, big solar arrays are poor for plants & animals. I also see at 
least 3 other parts to the equation as we evaluate the harm and benefit of 
solar arrays. What did the solar arrays replace on the landscape? What were the 
solar arrays built instead of for energy? How much energy do we need? 

In our moist temperate region, the land was mostly forested until being cleared 
for agriculture, which was a big investment. Abandoned agricultural land can, 
through succession, become meadows, shrub fields, and secondary forest, all of 
which harbor a wide variety of birds, but that’s a value we take for granted, 
not one with a price tag on it. People generally like and are uplifted by wild 
birds, and some of us are passionate about them. But abandoned farmland is 
considered “unproductive” by those who tax the land, and therefore also by 
those who own the land, so this habitat is apt to be shredded and converted to 
a large scale solar array. I’ve certainly seen that happen. If we as a society 
can literally value land which supports a diversity of birds, then less will be 
turned into long-term non-bird-habitat. 

My impression is that most agricultural land around here is for corn, and I’ve 
also seen some cornfields replaced by solar arrays. What’s the impact on birds? 
What do we lose when a cornfield is replaced by a solar array? Cornfields are 
lousy habitat for breeding birds, but blackbirds feed there in spring and 
autumn, and waterfowl may feed there in winter. If old-fashioned manure is 
spread, then Horned Larks, Snow Buntings, and a few Lapland Longspurs may visit 
to feed. And if they are quick about it, Horned Larks might nest on the bare 
dirt before farmers get too active there. Pesticides used on corn affects 
insects, birds, and aquatic animals beyond the fields. What is the corn used 
for? Regulations require ethanol to be added to gasoline. Ethanol is easy to 
make from corn, so lots of corn goes there, which helps keep corn prices high 
and lots of land in corn, even though corn takes so much energy to produce, 
what with pesticides & fertilizers & machines, that adding ethanol from corn 
increases the carbon footprint of the gasoline. Maybe the sway of 
corn-producing states, especially Iowa with its early caucus, is some of the 
politics Carl mentioned. Another big use of corn is for high-fructose corn 
syrup, a cheap sweetener which is a big ingredient of many 

[cayugabirds-l] Breeding Bird Atlas Blocks in Google Maps

[Suan Hsi Yong]

Hi all,

For those doing the BBA, I've found their web presence to be utterly
confusing and impossible to navigate so I created the following page
on the CBC website with three quick links I'm always looking for:

  https://cayugabirdclub.org/resources/breeding-bird-atlas

Number two is actually something I adapted to let one view the atlas
block boundaries on a smartphone's Google Map (tested on iOS, haven't
tried on Android), which some may find useful.

This adaptation includes only blocks "around" Cayuga Lake (from Geneva
to Newark Valley). The full kml of all blocks (available from a BBA
article somewhere) tends to slow down Google Maps more than I like, so
I wrote a quick Python script to fish out a subset. If anyone wants a
subset of blocks elsewhere in the state, let me know and I should be
able to generate it for you with relative ease.

Suan

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Question about air quality and birds

[sarah fern]

The city performed its useless "street cleaning" on my street at 6 am
today. The air has been noticeably worse since then. I'm having trouble
breathing in the house with my expensive air purifier working very hard.

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 10:16 AM Mary Cronk  wrote:

> It is a disaster. You can read more by reading cbc news or other canadian
> news
>
> Mostly they are evacuating and letting it burn
>
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> *Cc:* CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Question about air quality and birds
>
> none of the wildlife can get away from it. i am sure they are suffering
> (though i am no expert).
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 12:25 PM Regi Teasley  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how this very bad air quality affects birds?
>
> Regi
>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Question about air quality and birds

[Patrick L. McDonough]

This article covers some of the topic…
Hope this helps…
https://www.audubon.org/news/how-wildfires-affect-birds
Pat

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Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 1:16:21 PM
To: Poppy Singer ; Regi Teasley 

Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
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It is a disaster. You can read more by reading cbc news or other canadian news

Mostly they are evacuating and letting it burn


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none of the wildlife can get away from it. i am sure they are suffering (though 
i am no expert).

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Does anyone know how this very bad air quality affects birds?

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[Mary Cronk]

It is a disaster. You can read more by reading cbc news or other canadian news

Mostly they are evacuating and letting it burn


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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Question about air quality and birds

none of the wildlife can get away from it. i am sure they are suffering (though 
i am no expert).

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Question about air quality and birds

[Poppy Singer]

none of the wildlife can get away from it. i am sure they are suffering
(though i am no expert).

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 12:25 PM Regi Teasley  wrote:

> Does anyone know how this very bad air quality affects birds?
>
> Regi
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> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Question about air quality and birds

[Linda Orkin]

One can only imagine. Animal recommendations specify keep birds indoors. Birds 
are basically an enclosed air sac. It’s just awful.   These small particles 
that can easily be carried into our bloodstream must be totally dispersed 
throughout a bird’s cardiovascular system, organs etc. And what about insects?  

Linda Orkin

> On Jun 7, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how this very bad air quality affects birds?  
> 
> Regi
> 
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[cayugabirds-l] Question about air quality and birds

[Regi Teasley]

Does anyone know how this very bad air quality affects birds?  

Regi


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